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hopefulgum · 05/07/2013 11:54

Starting the new thread for you wonderful ladies before I fly off into the sunset.

May this thread bring us the happy news we've all been waiting for. Grin

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hopefulgum · 26/09/2013 23:26

Good Morning, and welcome London.

Morien, I am sorry about your cold and the bleeding. I truly hope you are able to carry another baby to term. I am sure you have researched all the options, but have you considered intralipid treatment ? A friend on another site was having the treatment for natural killer cells. I think it is controversial and expensive.

I really must buy some aspirin, I have run out and haven't been taking it in this tww. Who knows, it may make a difference, so I had better get some.

My chart isn't looking very attractive today. Unfortunately DS woke me at 4.30 as he'd wet the bed, so I got up to change the sheets, but forgot to take my temperature. It was freezing this morning, (you would never know it was spring, we've had nothing but cold,wind and rain since September 1st) and I couldn't get back to sleep. I took my temp anyway and it was so low it was below coverline. As far as I know an implantation dip doesn't last two days. I was hoping for a nice high temperature Sad

But I am not going to be hopeful this month, right?Hmm

DS was talking about his "baby sister" again today. He does this with no prompting at all. He said that he saw her on my lap and wanted to know where she'd gone. Perhaps they are doing something at school, or one of the kids has a new baby in the family? I do recall one mum being due around now, and as I never take DS to school or pick him up (he catches a bus) I don't know if there are any new babies born.

I wish we hadn't woken so early, DH and I have to go out for a friend's 50th tonight. I'll be falling asleep before the second course!

I hope everyone is feeling good?

Calibee - we haven't heard from you for ages. I hope all is well in the N.I lovenest?Wink

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diege · 27/09/2013 08:48

Morning Smile Gum I would definitely discard that very low temperature (as would fertility friend). You were up and doing things, which is different from just waking up early. I always imagined this would raise a temp, but with me they were always lowered if I took too early. I remember googling it and found other people with the same thing. What cd are you now?
jass your situation sounds really complex. Are there any other treatments other than what you are doing already that the consultant has suggested? It must all be very, very stressful xx
irish not long till your next scan then, and after that presumably the booking in one. Did you say you had a mw appointment too?
Ok here, though sounding like a phlemy old man...honestly, sounds like a TB sanatorium in here at the moment. Lots of hacking coughs (other than dh). He came in last night from seeing his mum and sister a little 'worse for wear' shall we say (I was in bed), then proceeded to turn up volume of tv, fall asleep with glass of wine in hand. Woke up dd3 with the noise at 2am who then woke me up. Not impressed as couldn't get back to sleep Angry Some shouting was done I shall say - if I had gone into labour he wouldn't have been fit to drive Angry. Have sent him up to school with the dcs though, and no back chat received
Hope everyone is ok - can't wait for the weekend!

mozzarellamummy · 27/09/2013 13:43

Hi everybody! london welcome on this lovely and caring thread!
isadorable I'm really sorry for your dad's illness, I hope you'll spend some good time with him when you go abroad..
jassI hope next one will be the fighter and will get rid of your immune system ..
For me it's still very early days, my dr suggested to book a CVS ..I booked it but I'm very uncertain on what to do...I wouldn't like to risk a mc because of the Cvs but I wouldn't like to know there're problems later in the pregnancy as last time(24th week Sad)..
I'm also thinking about harmony test but it wouldn't detect everything..last time anomaly wouldn't have be detected..
I'm also scared to death to discuss these things with my DP as he would be adamant to terminate the pregnancy while I'm much more doubtful..I just hope I won't ever have to face such a decision again...
I'm sorry I don't post that often but this new job is quite energy and time consuming..looking forward christmas holidays... Smile

hopefulgum · 28/09/2013 00:18

Hi ladies.
Deige, I did discard the temperature. It certainly wasn't taken under the right circumstances.

This morning the temperature is up again. And I have woken with either a fresh cold or just stuffed up sinuses and a headache. Just what I want on my first day of holidays. It could also be hayfever as all the native plants are in full pollen at the moment. Beautiful, but rather annoying.

I have to admit to feeling more than slightly hopeful but I shall restrain myself and wait til 10 dpo to test. I am 8 dpo today.

Mozza, that is a difficult decision to make about the cvs. Whatever you decide, I hope you can feel peace with it, after what you have experienced, only you can know what is best to do. ((hugs))

Only yesterday I was researching the Harmony test (jumping the gun a bit, I know, but I did want to learn more about it anyway). I thought the test would be a great alternative to amnio, but learnt that it cannot detect all anomalies, so, in my case, being so old, I would bet I may have to have cvs or amnio anyway. I will worry about that decision when I am faced with the real prospect of having a baby. Right now I am still in "dreaming" mode.

Mozza, I hope the job isn't too stressful. I do know how time-consuming and energy sapping it can be.

Deige, I too would have been mightily annoyed with DH after that performance.Angry Have you been able to tee up someone to look after the kids while you have the baby? Would MIL do it? How soon will you know if you need the C-section? Have you done all your nesting? When do you finish work?

We had a fun evening out last night and luckily it wasn't a late night (these oldies can't party like they used to!). The only problem was that rather than a sit down meal (which is what I thought it was) it was finger foods, and I swear, everything was coated in batter! So, you see, I am gluten intolerant, and firstly they brought out pizza. I ate the topping and left the base behind. Then, they brought out seafood, all coated in batter, so I was trying to peel batter off hot seafood! I gave up after a bit and came home hungry! Had I known it was that kind of thing I would have eaten before we went out or phoned ahead to ask for some gluten free options. I guess my friend/colleague (whose birthday it was) had forgotten about me being gluten intolerant. Besides, I didn't want to make a fuss, it was just a bit of a drag. I only had one champagne, so I felt fine.

It's a big day in Australia today - the AFL (Australian Football League) Grand Final. It is HUGE here. And this year, for the first time in a very long time a Western Australian team is in the grand final. So it will be all about the football today. DH and DS2 are very excited, and I have to admit, though not normally a fan, I am very excited too. After watching the final on the telly we'll head over to a friend's place for a BBQ and celebrations or commiserations.

Have a wonderful weekend everyone.Cake

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CaliBee · 28/09/2013 09:56

Hello to all...
hopeful thank you for remembering me, I do pop in and catch up with all your news every few days. I only don't post as much, as to be honest I don't feel particularly positive about ttc just now Sad
Congrats to all those newly bfpd...I wish you all very healthy sticky wee babies.
Comiserations to those who are not having such good time of it.
For me...I'm now on cd60 of a complete wtf cycle. Even provera hasn't worked.I have had several periods of +opk's and ewcm alas no temp rise. To be honest I feel completely poo. I had been waiting for af to arrive to present myself on cd3 for repeated tests with my new GP before she could refer me to fertility clinic over here in NIreland. In its absence I presented myself anyway yesterday and preceded to blart and snuffle my way through the appointment. She has however told me to go ahead and take a second course of provera and I am having notcd3 tests next Tuesday to have a look at hormone levels as they stand now.
I learned this week that DH will be off to Afghanistan for a six month tour from September next year. In my mind ...that is the time I have left to conceive naturally. Just one year!!!
So apart from that...I miss my DC's like crazy. I was flicking through tv menu's the other day and saw The Fox and the Hound was on. This was dd2's favourite....more tears from me. Dd1 is just a few weeks from the birth of my Grandson, and bless her she isn't feeling too well. We Tango'd (facetalked) on our phones this week and she looks pale and puffy ....I feel so far away. And DS...hmm, getting a conversation from him is like pulling water from a stone. I text..he ignores, I call and I get one word replies. I have to smile...he has never been any different but it is difficult. I end up grilling the girls as to what he is up to. He is coming to visit at half term at the end of October..I cant wait. Hopefully we can find plenty to do. They filmed the latest series of Game of Thrones (series 4 coming soon) about 10 miles away from where I live and the castle they constructed is still up so hopefully we can go to see that and perhaps a days shopping in Belfast.
Still no luck on the job hunting front. I went for an interview last week for a job in a Prison.....an hour and a bit journey away and for a band lower than I am qualified for. Dare I say I dont want it?? So not too disappointed that I have heard nothing as yet. I felt more qaulified than the interviewing panel. If I 'm going to do a "work-just-for-money" job I would at least prefer it to be closer to home.
I'm still settling into life on camp here. Most of the wives are very young with little life experience. They fill their their time at the on-camp coffee-pot gossiping about each other and babies and pregnancy. Sighs. The other day I found myself sitting between two Mums having a full scale slanging match because their children had a hair-pulling/scratching fight on the school bus. Sooo damn tedious. If I wasn't still the "new wife" I would have slammed their ruddy heads together. My guess is that the dear children will be best of friends by now, whilst their Mums filthy look each other from opposite sides of a coffee mug. There was a rather good rugby match later on that afternoon though. I do love a bit of live rugby ....and the Royal Horse Gaurds v The Rifles was pretty damn good. [cheeky smile emoticon] Hehehehe. I am missing grown up company though...female company that is. Dh is great but he pussyfoots around the ttc convo a little for fear of pressuring me. He had a birthday last week...so for just a few months there are less than 2 decades between us Smile.
Have a fantastic weekend ladies. The sun is shining here so I will hang out my washing and walk the hound on the beach. x

diege · 28/09/2013 11:49

Calibee things sounds really tough for you on several levels Sad I . think you are doing everything you can do tbh to figure out any fertility issues, and I really hope your NI dr. is able to suggest something encouraging. Did you still have an appointment in England to attend? My sister also found the atmosphere amongst the camp wives a bit smothering, and as one of the 'newcomers' did find it took her several months to become part of the 'scene'. She was still working while most of the other wives didn't, and I think this was part of the 'problem' in that she missed out on daytime stuff (not especially riveting!). If you do the nails business I'm sure you'd get an instant 'in', plus you would hold all the cards gossip-wise Wink. When do you hear for sure about the prison job?
Gum your life is a social whirl! Grin That must have been frustrating food-wise last night - hope you get some better options at tonight's BBQ. I'm veggie and remember once being served a white roll with tomato ketchup at a BBQ and being less than impressed. I always take along some quorn these days.
Will find out about the section next week. Scan on Tuesday to see if placenta has 'risen', then seeing consultant on Thursday to make a clinical decision. The issue is that placenta is not actually covering the cervix, and is to the side (lateral). If there's enough 'clearance' they may well suggest a vaginal birth (my preference). Baby is also very well positioned with head very low down (which wasn't the case with my 'big' ds1). At least I will be armed with more information this time next week.
Work has technically finished now but as I was ill last week and didn't go in on my last 'office' day I do need to go in on Monday just to collect some bits and bobs and also meet with one student and the boss....After that, busy with hosp appointments, hair appoint, pedicure on thurs before singing group etc. I am planning on going to the cinema in the day on my own a week Tuesday, and then I will be ready Grin. Nesting-wise, I have stared witheringly into the bottom of the washing basket (handwash stuff, natch) but that's about it...
Better go - dcs asking for scoobie Doo video (yes, VIDEO!!!) to be put on. Love to all xxx

diege · 28/09/2013 11:56

Oh and still an impasse on childcare cover...a friend across the road has given me her number if I need her to come over middle of night, but think she means just so dh can drive me to hospital and then come back straight away....

hopefulgum · 28/09/2013 23:09

Cali, it is nice to hear from you. Sorry you are having a difficult time. I would find the WTF cycle so frustrating. I hope you can get some insight from the tests.

It will be lovely to see your son when he comes over. How exciting that Game of Thrones was made nearby. Did you get to see any of the actors hanging around? Years ago, I lived in Canada and a film was made very near where I lived, out in the Canadian forest, with Charlie Sheen in it. We would go and sit up on the hill and watch them filming. Had to use binoculars to really see anything Shock Was a bit of excitement out in the wilderness though Grin

It must be difficult to be far away from your daughter when she's close to having her baby. ((hugs))

It think what Deige says is very wise. I reckon you'd soon be popular doing the ladies' nails. But I do understand how hard it must be, I would feel just like you do, with only young mums and children to fill your day. And I do feel for you with DH having to go off to Afganistan next year. I hope you'll have a wee baby or at least one in your belly by then.

Deige, I like your plans next week. Particularly the getting hair done, singing group (are we sisters???),pedicure and a movie on your own. Bliss! And it is just as it should be. Make sure you get some rest in there somewhere before littlestdiege arrives. Wow! You are so close now.

I hope your nieghbour will be generous enough to allow your Dh to be there for the birth!

I still have my fingers,toes,etc,etc crossed that I will be pregnant same time as you, even if only for a few days Wink

You know how I said I'd wait til 10 Dpo to test? Well, I didn't (no surprises thereHmm). I did an internet cheapie this morning and I thought it might actually have a very faint line on it. But I am far from celebrating, as it looks more like an evap line and is more grey than pink. I think to anyone else, it would look negative. So until I get a super obvious positive, I will not be celebrating Grin

Unfortunately our team didn't win the grand final yesterday. A bit disappointed, but also very proud of them coming up from the position of the underdog. We are all hoping next year will be their year.

We went to our friend's place for the bbq after the game in the afternoon, and we were back home at 6:30! DH and I were so tired, we could barely stay awake. Sad old bastards,aren't we? I am very grateful that I have nothing social organised for a while. Honestly a few nights in with my knitting and the telly sounds like bliss. At least I have spring break now, no school for two weeks! Yippee! However, I have booked DS and DD into swimming lessons starting Tuesday for 9 days. What was I thinking....Confused...Oh yes, that's right, I want them to be able to swim capably as we live right near the beach and I'd prefer they didn't drownGrin

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Mosman · 29/09/2013 07:54

Hi hopefully I didn't realise your in WA, I live in Shenton park and have a horrible feeling I've got myself knocked up with number five at the age of 38.

hopefulgum · 29/09/2013 09:46

Mosman, does a "horrible feeling" mean you have done a test? You know all the ladies on this thread who haven't had a BFP will be Envy at you getting knocked up accidentally! I'll have your bfp if you don't want it!

Would it be a bad thing?

Anyway, congratulations if you are pregnant.

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hopefulgum · 29/09/2013 09:47

And at the age of 38? You are positively a spring chicken compared to me!

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Mosman · 29/09/2013 10:19

Very new relationship that's all .... 38 doesn't feel you g but I guess it's all relative. I'll keep the BFP if I get one Grin may need to get over the shock before I start smiling about it though.

jass43 · 29/09/2013 10:37

Mosman, do a test. Men come and go, babies are for real:-)

Mosman · 29/09/2013 10:42

I've already planned in my mind what I'll do if he reacts badly - smile sweetly and say thank you for the sperm and walk off.

CaliBee · 29/09/2013 14:07

Oooo quietly excited for you hopeful. And thank you diege for the kind words. If i am bluntly honest I have no desire to "fit"in with the wives....but female company is a must for me so for now I will keep stum lol.
Yes I have an appointment with fertility clinic in England at the end of November. I was happy to be 3 stone lighter so Icould stick a middle finger up at my porky little consultant....however my new lifestyle has brought about a renewed urge to bake (blush). Hmmmm.
I have to say though,that despite all the trials and tribulations of my new life and aging body, that I do feel the stress (I suspect mostly work related) beginning to ease. For the first time in years i am enjoying getting into bed and not having to worry about facing work the next day and i have lost that "sunday blues" feeling that used to cloud my Sunday evenings.....infact i have only 3 things missing from my life...my thb, my dc's and a few extra pennes to make the previous 2 lacks a little easier to obtain....smile x

RainyAfternoon · 29/09/2013 20:55

Hi guys, I wondered if I could join you - feeling pretty miserable this evening and could do with some wise words. i've been lurking on this thread a while - following all your journeys, but wasn't ready to post myself til now.

We are TTC our third child. I'm 42 - had DD at 36 and DS at 38. After the first two I wasn't sure about a third due to circumstances so we put it off, then decided to go for it a year ago and I had two early MCs within 5 months - it was then that I really knew I wanted a third. Unfortunately after that we had a 6 month break from TTC - i broke my wrist and needed an operation and many xrays over a few months. After that we left it anothr two months because the due date would have clashed with us having to be out of our house for a couple of months (seems so trivial now!).

So we've been trying again with intent for 4 months, but it's made complicated by DH being away a lot (Long haul pilot). So some months he's just not here. My hopes were up this month as AF was late, but I she arrived today, and for some reason, I'm feeling so sad about it all. I am so cross with ourselves we took so long to make our minds up to try for another. I torture myself with statistics and I know I'm perimenopausal as my cycles have been shortening - I feel like I'm just kidding myself even trying, esp as DH's roster is out of our control, but then I don't know how to start coming to terms with deciding that's the end of the road.

Before I give up I just wanted a bit of advice - is it ridiculous to go to the doctor to ask for help even though it's my own fault we waited this long, and I do already have two beautiful children? Also has anyone tried acupuncture? And finally, does anyone have any advice of suppliments to take?

Hopefully it's just a bad day today, and I'll feel more on an even keel and accepting tomorrow, It's probably exacerbated by DS now at school full time and me missing him.

Thanks for listening! Have a good evening everyone x

hopefulgum · 29/09/2013 23:18

Good morning ladies.

Welcome RainyAfternoon. I can really relate to what you are saying about wishing you'd started trying earlier. But I think you still have a great chance, as you are only 42 and there is still time. I guess it must be pretty difficult with DH away so much. Have you considered something like IUI (rather than IVF) - if you could have your DH's sperm frozen, so that if he's away you could still have IUI and get the sperm into the right place at the right time.

Personally, I do not think it is ridiculous to talk to a doctor about this, but it does depend on what you hope to get from your doctor. I think it is better to go there knowing what you want so that you aren't fobbed off. Ask for the usual tests : day 3 blood tests -FSH, Estrogen and then the day 21 test (should be called the 7 DPO test) for progesterone. You can also have the AMH test which looks at ovarian reserve. That test can be a bit of a downer if it comes back "low". Mine did, and for a while I was quite depressed. Since then I have fallen pregnant (but also miscarried). But I do realise the tests, though they do give us some idea of what's going on, don't tell the whole story. My younger sister had day 3 tests, and whilst sat in her doctor's office, being told it was impossible for her to get pregnant, was able to hand over a positive pregnancy test and say, "I think you are wrong" GrinShe had a son, then another one shortly afterwards.

There are other things that the doc can do - you can have one of those things (HSG??) that looks at if your tubes are clear,you can take clomid to stimulate ovulation (but if you are already ovulating, you probably don't need it) and you can have follicle tracking done to see exactly when you ovulate. But I am not sure your GP will do that, you'd probably have to go private and pay for it.

Having said all that, I have been in your shoes (not completely, as my DH doesn't work away) and I went to my GP looking for help, only to be told, after all my tests, that she wouldn't prescribe clomid for me, she botched up prescribing progesterone, and in the end has said, just keep trying, you might just catch a healthy egg. I think, she doesn't really believe I will, and thinks it is too late for me. She's probably right as I am almost 47, but you are much younger, so I think there's still time for you.

Of course there's plenty you can do for yourself. I love acupuncture. Clearly it hasn't got me knocked up, but it does help me relax and I don't seem to get sick very often. My acupuncturist is a lovely older women who is wise,loving and caring, and almost a counselor to me. I do think acupuncture is great for fertility. Who knows, perhaps I wouldn't have had my DS at 41 without it? It has also sorted out painful periods for me.

As for supplements, there's a huge amount of advice on the net, and I have read tonnes of it Confused The latest thing is to take high doses of Co q 10, and the best way to get it is in the form of Ubiquinol. Of course taking folic acid or prenatals is good, also I have heard that royal jelly is good, DHEA (that one is a bit contraversial as it is a form of testosterone and can cause hormone imbalances), fermented fish oil, vitamin d (You could have your level checked by the gp) and there's probably more which I can't recall right now. I have been taking Zita West Vitafem because I am sick of taking a dozen or so supplements and almost everything is in the Zita ones. They are expensive though.I am also taking Coq10 when I remember. These days I am a bit slack on the sups, but I think it is because I have been ttc for 4 years and it's become a bit tedious.

Are you charting? I think that can be helpful, but not everyone likes doing it and it can add to the "obsessive" nature of ttc. Do you have a fertility monitor or use OPKs? Both will help pinpoint you ovulation, and if your cycles are changing, then that's a good idea.

As for me, this cycle was not the oneSad Clearly a BFN this morning and a huge temperature drop. I do feel sad, and PMS is going to hit me soon I think, I am glad DH,DD1 and DS2 are all heading off for a few days away. I will still have DD2 and DS3 at home, but I don't want DH to see how upset I am feeling. It's all a bit heart-breaking and shit to keep trying month after frigging month for so damned long and still not get my thb. I know I say this every cycle, so please don't read on if you are sick of my moaning (I would be Smile). I have always been the kind of person who was rewarded for tenacity. Everything I have truly wanted, I have gone after it with vigour and determination and have eventually got there. But this precious last baby is just eluding me. I've done everything I can, and I keep getting up and trying again. Then I get to this part of my cycle, 10 dpo and another bfn and feel exhausted and like I cannot go on trying. But I can't seem to give up trying either.

I know to most people it would seem stupid to keep doing this (what's the definiton of insanity? To keep doing something that hurts you), especially as I already have five children. I love and appreciate them, I don't take them for granted, I just feel that I am meant to have a 6th and last child to complete my family.

I suppose I have to let go of this mad desire at some point?

My acupuncturist tells me that in traditional Chinese medicine they consider a woman able to have kids, if her body is healthy and balanced, until she is 49. So I guess I still have time.

If you have read this far, you deserve Wine Brew FlowersBiscuit Smile

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RainyAfternoon · 30/09/2013 00:28

Thank you hopeful for such a thoughtful and detailed response. Especially when you have had such a difficult day yourself. I really appreciate it. I know it's a bit cheeky to piggyback on other people's internet research, but I find it hard to figure out whats what sometimes, so thank you.

I will make a doctor's appt and I'm keen on seeing some kind of alternative therapist too as I'm feeling a bit out of a balance and stressed so that won't be helping.

I hope you have a peaceful day. Have you thought of counselling to help you deal with the cycle of trying? I think it's such an internalised thing as you are the only one that feels every twinge of your cycle. My DH has no idea what's going on in my head half the time, I do wonder sometimes if I should go talk to someone... and then I think I'll just give it a few more months first...

Of to sleep now x

lifesgreatquestions · 30/09/2013 16:58

Hi, I've visited here on and off, can't remember if I've visited under this name before. It's been so tough, I was naturally a very positive, silver lining, kind of person, but the process of trying to have a baby has depressed me to the point of questioning the meaning of it all, so I struggle to maintain presence on a thread.

I had three mc's all about 5/6 months apart, all discovered at 12 weeks, those awful scans. I was then offered the consultation care you "get" with having achieved 3 mc's, but since then I haven't been able to get pregnant. It's been over a year now since my last pregnancy. For the most part, even though we were trying, I have been seriously depressed so maybe it wouldn't have been a good time to get pregnant, who knows.

Anyway, I am feeling stronger. The last couple of months I've made some positive changes and have found that this month I am much more positive about trying. We've given it a really good shot this month and I was looking on MN for some words of wisdom and just wanted to write a thank you to Hopefulglum for the Inconceivable book recommendation. I've just purchased it for my long haul flight Friday and am looking forward to taking in something more positive.

Good luck to you all.

hopefulgum · 30/09/2013 23:31

Hello, lifesgreatquestions, I don't remember you, perhaps you had a different name before? I am so sorry that you have had to deal with three losses. Yes, it certainly makes you question everything. Like you, it has been over a year since my last pregnancy too. I hope the book gives you a sense of hope, I thought it was very good.

Despite my tale of woe post yesterday, I had a good day. I got our into the garden and spent a few hours pulling weeds and tidying up garden beds. It was just what I needed. Later I watched a movie with DD2- "The Notebook", so that was a very good excuse to have a good cry. Then DD2 and DS3 and I took a long walk on the beach, which was lovely. I have much to be grateful for. I would have been very,very happy if I'd had a bfp this month, but it seems very unlikely now.

My temperature went up again this morning, but my boobs have lost all tenderness, I had another bfn, which I fully expected, and have started spotting. Seems my LP is lessening - another sign of impending menopause. Perhaps it really is too late for me. However, as long as it appears I am still ovulating, I will still have a go at it.

Diege, you have been quiet - have you gone into labour and had your baby? Or are you just too exhausted and busy? Your scan is today - let us know how it went.

First day of swimming lessons today. We are going to be tired later on! Which is great, an early night for DS!Grin

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diege · 01/10/2013 09:09

Morning Smile lifesgreatquestions so sorry for your mcs, but glad that you got some comfort from Gums recommended book xx
Gum I was really surprised to see you got a bfp - I was sure this month you would be in luck Sad Hoping that you feel a little better today xx Yes, I have my scan this afternoon where I am sure the placenta will still be low...obviously my uterus is growing 'upwards' but some reason the pesky placenta doesn't seem to be moving upwards with it...Nothing I can do of course and at least I will know what's happening delivery-wise after today.
It was my last day at work yesterday which is a relief, though still a few ongoing work issues that I am going to try not to engage in (must not check e-mails!!!) Hoping to wind down over the next few days, though in some ways being at home is more tiring as have more drop offs/pick ups from childminders/school etc...Can't complain though!
Love to all xxx

diege · 01/10/2013 09:10

damn it, I meant 'bfN' Gum!!!!

LondonSuperTrooper · 01/10/2013 12:45

Hello Ladies,

Thank you for your welcome and for having me here.

It's been interesting and very informative reading about your TTC journeys. had finally accepted that DC2 will not happen naturally & resigned myself to having IVF and possibly even donor eggs. I have been throught the rage and unfairness stages and the why me tirade. I guess you can say that I made peace with my body for not giving me DC2.

But now for the very first time in my life I believe in miracles! I hope you do not mind but after TTC for 13 cycles & been diagnosed with secondary infertility , I have got my BFP yesterday. I still can't believe and it seems unreal. I'm so nervous of having another miscarriage (had one 2 years ago and have been TTC ever since). I'm not going to relax or believe this until i pass the 8 week stage, that's when my previous miscarrage was.

I wish the bestest of luck to you all in your TTC journey.

LST xxx

PS sorry for any spelling errors - i'm on my phone.

greenlizard · 01/10/2013 12:47

Hi Ladies

Haven’t been on for a while and so much as happened on the thread I can’t
catch up just yet - so just to say a massive Flowers CONGRATULATIONS
Flowers to the newly BFP’d amongst us. Really brilliant news. And so
sorry that it has been so tough for a few with both TTC and other life
stuff –life can be very trying some times. Hmm Welcome to all those who
have recently joined us – this is a lovely supportive thread, full of
lovely ladies who are both wise and great at hand holding during the
difficult times Flowers (but hope you won’t have any difficult times!)

So after my loooooooooong interminable WTF cycle after my ERPC in June
where I finally O’d on CD67, my next cycle has been nearly as nuts.
I/Fertility Friend “thinks” I O’d on CD33 after multiple LH surges
(calibee you have my sympathy - it is so frustrating isn’t it when our
bodies don’t behave as they should Angry). DP and I have been shagging
ourselves silly hoping for another cheeky BFP just before we start IVF (and
one that makes it this time would be nice) but as I kept having surges but
not ovulating we had to keep going - DTD 20 times in the 29 days since my
AF finished – not bad for such oldies Grin. As it is now 3DPO we are
looking forward to the rest.

So now in the 2WW but to be fair I don’t hold out much hope but we have
done everything we could before IVF starts. So I have go to call them on
CD1 then go in on CD2 for a scan and have my first of my daily injections
and off we go. Have not been doing the acupuncture bit (v expensive) but
might take it back up again. Has anyone tried reflexology?

I have found things a bit tough since the miscarriage – think I am doing OK
then burst into tears randomly and things have been a bit challenging at
work. Two of my team announced their pregnancies one after the other and
then one miscarried at 8 weeks. It brought back the pain of it all back in
a big rush Sad. But then my solid and rambunctious 18-month nephew was
sat on my knee the other day and he suddenly leaned over gave me a big
sloppy (and snotty) kiss – it reminded me of why I keep going, god I really
want a baby - I don't just want to be an Auntie!! I heard a saying the
other day – “The greater the challenge; the sweeter the victory”. Maybe
this should be the thread motto!

Ps. good luck with your scan diege hope your placenta is behaving itself!
Pps. hopeful sorry about your BFN -think your time must surely be soon

hopefulgum · 01/10/2013 15:36

Aww, thanks Diege, you know I thought I would be lucky this month too but it looks unlikely.Let us know how your scan goes.

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