Eggcellent Egg Buddies: are you cycling in June/July/August/September?

[JuicySausage]

...then come and get your flipping baby here. We are a group of utterly priceless loons who are deadly serious about buying our babies at the highest price (or free if you're a lucky NHS bastard). There are no failures here

Now, the PCT gave us 3 cycles. A FET counts as a cycle.

Assuming at least 5 embryos are left over We need to make the decision on tuesday EC whether to freeze them for a FET.

FET
Pros: no long wait or Major hormones.
If I get pregnant from this cycle I have a possible sibling in the freezer. What if second fresh cycle doesn't produce good quality eggs.

Cons: FET has slightly lower conception rate,
I produce a fair amount of eggs so makes more sense to me to go for top grade again.
Second IvF cycle would be completely different, so not necessarily the roller coaster I had fun with.
Wasted fresh cycle.
What if none defrost? Wasted fresh cycle.
I'd have to destroy embryos. And I cannot help but think of em as babies already, even if they do not make it. Seems morally wrong.

Cannot think of any other off the top of my head. Thoughts?

Wow, fish, I'm thrilled at your caviar haul! Is this day three post-EC? We missed you x

Zammo! You are incorrigible. What's an ex doing masturbating in your spare room?

Tortie, my boss humiliated me for ages about soiling his sheets. And then I slept with him, too

Hi fish good to see you back,I was in a lot of pain after ec.your bruised inside and its hard to walk but I felt better on day 3 then got called in for transfer,it will ease up.we can't expect to go through that not be bit sore.
Not long and we will be running around again.

I'm debating if to drive today and nip out for bit,they said I could drive but what do yous think?

Oh juicy horrible images in my head ,your crazy just crazy .how's being pregnant so far ?

Right they told me 2 weeks to test but when can I get away with it?

Fish, research shows that embies which don't make it to blasto at day five would not have made it in the womb. Maybe you need to research that yourself because I know Zammo would disagree and I am far from the oracle on these things. My point, however, if this is the case, is that I would only freeze those which make it to blasto.

juicy you are outrageous!

One of the things I have 'hated' at being married now is that I cannot do all the things I was too shy/embarrassed to do in my 20s. The naughty things that is... The things that contravene those bloody vows

Yes thats day 3. They are taking me to blast.

Wish, don't test earlier than 11 days past EC.

juicy but it would mean losing a fresh cycle. Its a bugger, because I asked if we could pay for a FET ourselves, but the PCT do not allow for it.

@ mejust i'm day three and still struggling. I did drive yesterday, and I'm drugging up and going out today. I'll not spend another day indoors.

I just thought, if say 5 are top of grade on day 5 then we freeze? Anything lower gets, oh god I cannot write it. I was raised catholic you see and for me personally I feel we'd be destroying life. Mind you, our priest is dead against IVF. God's will and all that.

Though I am agnostic and the catholic part says if god didn't want IV he wouldn't have made it.

Never ceases to amaze how I get all catholic on some aspects of my life. (I am pro choice incidentally, and obviously used contraception evil laugh)

I missed you all too btw. I just shut down a bit. I think my hormones are doo lally - I had a rant about disney films yesterday and cried at the memory of bambi's mum .

Ffs - I'm crying over bambi's mam again!

I thought I test next thurs friday but should I test trigger out?

Fish great news on embryos I put 2 bk a 6 cell and 7 had 2 left one still at 3 cell and another 7 but don't know if one made blast or not.

But, fish, why would you need a fresh cycle with blastos in the freezer? Or am I missing something? With all due respect you can't be pro-choice and fret about the demise of your embryos, surely? Don't want a row or to be provocative but you need to decide, I guess, where your priorities lie: Catholicism or having a baby by any means.

Life I agree I'm going crazy on here,hope you get better x
Hubby has been great comes in from work cooks does washing cleaning and won't let me do anything I feel guilty,I'm going mad on 2ww already

life I wasn't raised catholic and am 100% atheist and I struggle with the idea of destroying embryos. It was one of the things that eventually persuaded me to put both ours back and one of the main reasons we originally went for IVF. I think it's normal. My bestie was also really concerned about this (her husband is catholic but she is Hindu) but ended up using all of her embryos. She got really lucky with the way it worked out.

I would argue that IVF still works on the basis of natural selection

I meant going crazy in here as in the house

I had a termination years ago and since then am completely anti-abortion.

I was thinking aloud juicy, none of it is rational. I'm not actually religious ( contradiction ). Its the 'guilt'.
That bit of devils advocate has worked though - It was a rational bitch slap, cheers

Ok, talk to me about FET. At the clinic open day I got the impression that FET was an iceland lasagne to a homemade one (and iceland one wouldn't fill you up basically, ergo unsuccessful most of the time).

Talk to me...

This may sound silly, and I haven't admitted it to DH, but after EC I really felt like 'life' had been removed from me. I feel like those embryos are my babies - I made them and ate enough fucking eggs and took a crackhouse worth f drugs to nurture them.

Maybe I'm over thinking it all. But what if I freeze and they die during defrosting?

That should say:

one of the main reasons we originally went for NATURAL IVF

euro so it isn't a religious thing. I feel quite confused... But i have 2 days to think about it.

I 'm not good at making decisions and am quite anti-risk taking to my detriment.

I don't want to research it. Maybe i'll see what zita west has to say.juicys right, i need to work out priorities.

DH says freeze.

Three things, the results of FET really vary from clinic to clinic, it depends on the quality of the embryologist, the protocol for freezing and their ability to defrost. So I would check the numbers of your clinic, to make up your mind. Second, I reckon the burden on you should count as well. You've had a really rough ride to get this far, I would probably give the FETs a chance. Also threatening OHSS makes a pregnancy less likely, no chance of that in a FET round. Third, the clinic gets more work = more money (not sure but I suspect) from a fresh cycle. So that may factor into their iceland description of FETs.

Waves at the other buddies, looks inpatiently behind chairs and things to find AWOL AF. No excitement due to pill, DRing and spotting. Just want to get onto stimming now.

Also, another atheist that share a bit more than side effects with euro. I don't want to give my hypothetical embies away or throw them away. So that bothers me too.

Me to juicy and iv never got over it,timing wasn't right it sucks.that's prob what damaged my tube.
Fish I think you have been through a lot and your bound to be all over the place .

Wish how are you?

Sorry to derail the thread, I don't come in for days then I'm asking you all to make a huge decision for me.

I'm going to freeze. I am aware that this still may not be a possibility by Tuesday, but my mind is made up. The rationale is:
I've been lucky enough to not work through this cycle. This will not be possible again.
I kinda realise an IVFcycle shouldn't be this hard I do struggle with the idea of going through it again. I've had to draw on every inch of positivity to do it. Not sure I'd be able to again.
My clinic FET rate isn't great according to HfEA about thats 2011 data. Is moved on since then.
The clinic reckons a drop in success of 10 points (50% fresh to 40% for me)
loves points make total sense to me, the practicalities - is my usual natural thought process.
My personal ethical issues are satisfied, i'm already too attached to those cells. And in fact don't really see them as such which has shocked me.
juicy natural selection. I believe that.
DH wants to freeze. And its his spunk too.

Thank you juicy, euro, mejust, love. So far I've not had to make decisions bar stomach or thigh (and that was thoroughly debated in ches fish). Just as well really.

Easy for me to say but I don't think anyone should regret doing the right thing at the right time. I believe that the rights of the living trump those yet to be. mejust you do not know that the procedure affected your tubes - according to my first consultant, women can be born with 1 or more blocked tubes, hes done research into it. It seems that It may be my problem.

Life I'm glad you have made your decision, you seem happy with it that's the main thing and you're right, no-one should regret doing something that was right for that person at that time.

Juicy Your stories are brilliant. You remind me of my bestie.

I'm 'ok' today. The 'brown' has slowed down to next to nothing. Had a bit this morning but would call it spotting. The cramps are few and far between, more like a very dull ache every now and then.
The test thing morning showed a white line where the bfp should be so I used another one which did the same. Annoying!!! So still bfn but too early still.

Everyone keeps telling me it could be good news but I can't believe that. I know its going to be negative on friday so DP tells me to live a normal life if thats what I think but I still need to know that I did everything I could otherwise I'll blame myself.
He doesn't understand that, he just thinks I still believe when I really don't.

Why are men so damn annoying? We had an argument this morning because I didn't keep track of what he'd spend of the savings!!!! Grrr

Wish, I honestly think your EC/ET displaced a ton of crap that's been lingering up there. I am hoping for the best for you x

fish, I didn't mean to come across as preachy. Every woman has her wobbles about IVF but I can't help thinking - at this stage of the game - we damn well owe it to the strongest embies/blastos to use them and I think it's essential to harvest a decent haul so that natural selection can take place. It really is the survival of the fittest and your thawed-out blastos will be very impressive. I loved Lemon's advice.

Mejust, I aborted because it was a one-night stand I and had just bought a top-of-the-range sports car on HP. What an abhorrent skewing of values

My breasts are swelling at an alarming rate. Isn't it a bit early for this kind of thing?