The BESH plumbing is blocked up. Where's a man with a big tool when you need one?

[FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn]

Welcome to the BESH plumbing thread, where we have blocked pipes, dirty u-bends and leaks aplenty.

Newbies are welcome to seek out the BESHtionnaire submit highly inflated quotes for consideration. Instadiffers will be massively overcharged and sent packing.

Hmmm, this job is gonna cost a bit

[evilgiraffe]

Hugs to all having a stressful time.

I've been out to see friends (ex colleagues) tonight. Lovely to see them, but by god they talk about their kids and not a huge amount else these days. And one (lovely) guy's girlfriend is diffed, on the first month of trying. I am counting it a win that I didn't either cry or hit him, but feel guilty I couldn't look him in the eye and say congratulations. Then was asked how I'm doing, nearly cried, but conversation quickly got derailed into someone's daughter's endo surgery. All very well, but I felt so helplessly upset/angry, because I was trying to share something deeply upsetting about me. Still. Deep breaths, and repetition of my mantra: "it's not all about me".

[TWinklyLittleStar]

You did well not to thump them draf. And whilst "it's not all about me" is a good motto, do you ever feel like it's never about you?

[RaspberrySnowCone]

Can understand the spiders Euro. And sedatives of any kind are bound to have a weird effect on anyone, I burst into tears when I woke up after my anaesthetic last year. I've never done that before and I've had a lot of anaesthetic over the years. Even the anethitist was impressed how many times I'd been knocked out! :)

[RaspberrySnowCone]

Oh an draf, a thumping would have been forgiven I'm sure!

[eurozammo]

I did the tears this time. I felt like the world was ending, although I had no idea why. . At least it proves that the panicked running away was a chemical reaction rather than me just being mental - they gave me a different drug this time.

draf you were very restrained.

[FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn]

Draf you did very well. Are any of them aware of your situation?

[evilgiraffe]

Yeah, Twink, I do. Except when I'm with HOTB or one of my very close friends - she struggled TTC herself and so she gets it in a way that none of my other friends do. Though I did have a text from a friend after I got home tonight, checking I was alright after diffage news. I hope that I will get a bit more airtime when we start stabbing, though. Mind you, I am downregging already, so I'd have thought that would deserve a minute or two.

I wonder sometimes if people don't want to hear about it because they find it obscene or shameful? Some people are like that about death and severe illness, too.

Anaesthetic is a weird thing. So far I take to it quite well, and came round from the laparoscopy very polite and grateful to the nurses, though it took a while to be able to think properly.

[evilgiraffe]

All the ones who were part of the conversation were aware, Frank, yes. The derailing one is very talkative, so any pause to try to stave off tears regain self-control is an invitation to jump in. They are lovely people though. Perhaps just scared to let a pause lengthen?

[Bearfacedchic]

Hello all,

Lovely new Fred. Well done Frank. I once had to get a plunger in Italy and the dictionary didn't have the word in, so I drew it and it inevitably looked like a dildo. Oh how I and the Italian plumbers (who had gathered round me in the shop) laughed.

Really hoping it all works out for you Euro.

Been doing some menkulling on another Fred over the weekend. Have been generally raging against my body and GS's. I'm starting to get that detached, lonely feeling some of you have talked about. The idea of having a baby is slowly fading and I'm left just feeling empty. Sigh.

Anyway, I think those of you stabbing, shooting up, having dildocams, being prodded, poked, unzipped and rezipped are just so brave and admirable. That is all.

[Bearfacedchic]

Sorry to hear about the lack/nonexistence of air time Draf. You were most restrained. I know what you mean about people not wanting to talk about it. I personally only want to talk about it with people who fully understand, but it's difficult when you want to share and they can't/ won't listen. I'm always afraid of sounding self-pitying and I probably am, but sometimes there is nothing else. It's hard to maintain the brave face for everyone else.

[FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn]

Morning Hags, just been for a 25 min run

I know what you mean about wanting to talk about but stuff at times, but I'd rather do it on my own terms IYSWIM. That's why we only to,d a small handful of people. I can't stand the "So, are you doing?" question, usually accompanied by ::sad face:: and ::head tilt:: . I have to tell people if I need to talk I will and if there is anything they need to know I will tell them, other than that LEAVE ME ALONE!!!'

Oh yeah, 15dpo - temp still up

[RaspberrySnowCone]

How's you feeling today Euro?

Frank.....starting ever so slightly to menkul for you. Feel free to slap me :)

Bear I think the detached feeling gets to us all eventually. Tis a sad feeling when all of a sudden I realise that I don't think about what my kids would look like, baby names, packing a hospital bag ready for labour.

I have so many questions now that I should have asked the clinic. The nurse said that everything looked fine scan wise so she didn't see a problem getting going as soon as I'd had my follow up. Next appt is probably 16 July and she said then I'd need to ring up on day 1 of next cycle and they'd get me in on Day 21? She didn't really say what that meant? How does it work and would this sound right?

[FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn]

Rasp, I'm menkulling enough for everyone at the moment

Can't advise you on the clinic appointments as I've not been through that treatment plan.

Hest how are you doing? Are you still busy busy at the moment?

Euro hope you are feeling ok this morning.

[RaspberrySnowCone]

Menkul away! Droid has just disappeared for the month so no menkulling for me. Going to try and have lots of SFF this month, make the most of it before they stop that with their magic potions and pills that will turn me into a crazy hormonal wreck

[lovesLemonDrizzleCake]

Good menkulling frank have a fish slap, whilst I get my tassles out of storage in case they're needed later this week!

Sorry about the lack of airtime draf. I totally know the feeling. But also the awkward head-tilting questioning. I've gone for the "I'll let you know when I want to talk about it" approach, and really only talk to the good ones and focus on job and hols and their kids with the incompetent rest. But opening up and not being heard really sucks.

Rasp if it is anything like mine, you'll call and get dildo cammed early in the cycle for cysts etc with DRing starting on day 21.

I am getting hold of the clinic today. I am too knackered to think which makes my job really difficult.

[BarbiesBeaver]

Good luck BESHes.


Oh, and the feeling faint thing after smears/IUI/HSG stuff (as well as being immensely stressful) can be due to a vasovagal response - more common in athletically fit people or with low blood pressure after having womble or cervix mucked about with, or can even be caused by straining to have a poo.

[eurozammo]

rasp I started downregging on day 21 when I started long protocol IVF, so that would make sense.

[lovesLemonDrizzleCake]

Morning hags!

They'll discuss my case in the team meeting... But there is little they can do, except maybe try something different next time. And I can quit, if I want until we start stimming, with no deleterious effect, except, possibly never doing IVF again. But hey, at least I'd be able to do my job...

Reclaim the fanjo, I can see a really successful political movement developing . Ignore stats, euro. They always suck.

[RaspberrySnowCone]

Is long protocol 6 weeks of drugs then? I'm starting to worry that 6 weeks is a long time and ill forget to take something/do something wrong if/when I start stabbing! Panick stations please......

[FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn]

The stabbing becomes quite easy Rasp, just do what I did and set a recurring reminder on your phone for the same time every evening.

[eurozammo]

I did the phone reminder too (in fact, I have one now so I remember to take my fanny bullets twice a day).

[lovesLemonDrizzleCake]

Snap at the phone reminder frank and euro. I didn't in the IUI rounds before and sometimes nearly forgot.

[Northey]

What does your reminder say, euro? I love the idea of Fanny! or Bum! flashing up on your phone screen at work.

[eurozammo]

Heh. Just "Drugs!" Although you have now given me inspiration to be more creative...

[Northey]

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