The BESH plumbing is blocked up. Where's a man with a big tool when you need one?

[FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn]

Welcome to the BESH plumbing thread, where we have blocked pipes, dirty u-bends and leaks aplenty.

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Hmmm, this job is gonna cost a bit

So draf and cap'n are in the running for ironidiffs then ? Is that right ?

bugs I am sorry that droid bitch is on her way. Tis truly crap.

frank (wtf is the PESH ? Have you gone underground on my ass or something !? I couldn't find it) I actually blushed when I read your post. I happily accept your kd Lang type crush. You too bear

Oh, talking of bear when you speak of pruning/tidying laydee garden , please don't follow it with the comment cos then I'm thinking 'what beard'. Is she having a cheeky ruffle of the shagpile whilst posting ? And yes, I do mean Fat Pat. At the moment, my feet make hers look positively sylph-like.

faif am so glad Faiflet is doing well. Oh the irony of doing contraception eh ?

twonks I'm sure it isn't true but heehee about Orc on horseback.

Hello to everyone else. Xx

(I'm feeling slightly nauseous, but that might just be the weight of ironidiff expectation. Or the weather.)

(Also I know MS doesn't start this after OV)

(Menkuls quietly)

Bugs, glad it was ok. The new lifestyle sounds positively delightful - massages!

Also sorry about droid.

noks the PESH stands for Pregnant Evil Selfish Hags...the current Fred is here. Those of us who have dropped in the last few months still post there too. Not very fast moving at present.

Bugs! I too have given up booze, this last weekend was my last blow out. MATV is not convinced that I will manage it but I have decided I must. I've also started having a protein shake every day as I don't really like milk, drinking 2 litres of water a day, down to one cup of coffee and one cup of tea a day. I am however having quite a few biscuits/treats. Can't be good all the time can I?
No massages or pilates though. Too skint for a massage and pilates makes me fart something terrible.

Bugs I changed my diet / gave up booze / took DHEA for 3 months before stabbing started. Dunno if it actually helped but it made me feel like I was doing something, which made me feel more in control.

Rasps if you don't like milk, try almond and/or hazelnut milk. I use it in my morning smoothies and they are delicious. Alpro makes the stuff, it hangs out in the soya milk section in the supermarket.
That is today's top diet tip from cap'n. now back to Noks in the studio.

Mmmmm, I'm not a fan of drinking milk that comes from something that doesn't have nipples really. Don't mind coconut milk though. Word of warning - don't drink soya milk or eat soya products, there's a huge amount of evidence starting to come out about its negative impact on female hormones and some links with infertility. Scary stuff seeing as they put it in nearly every type of processed food you can imagine from meat (like burgers)through to chocolate.

I say starting to come out, what I really mean is, I've only just found out.

We are the same as you bugs, diet is good and varied but I just want to know I've done everything to get the best possible chance..

What ho chaps! I'm just back from the work function, it was pretty dull for the most part except for the most fantastic table magician that came round. He put a pen through a playing card while I was holding it . He was properly amazing!

My boss is very sceptical about stuff like that but then he turned a £20 note into a $1 bill in front of her face and now she's converted!

Arf Norks- I wasn't stroking that beard but I can see why you'd think that. He he.

Twinks - I live in the other end of the county by the estuary, but used to visit Epping a bit a while ago. It's a nice place.

I'm trying to overhaul my diet and fitness ATM too, not for stabbing or anything, but just to lose some weight and feel like I'm killing time doing something positive. Actually, I do want to be healthier, but I struggle to lose weight suspects undiagnosed pcos might be to blame but we'll see I'm trying to avoid as many processed foods as poss and eat whole foods only but it's hard. We're pretty healthy anyway though. I'm just intrigued to see if I do everything in my power to lose weight whether it will happen or whether I have a Real Problem.

rasp someone I know is veggie for religious reasons and had been ttc for ages. Like most veggies, she was eating loads of soya. Someone mentioned the research to her, she cut it out and voila - preggers. It could be coinidence, but who knows?

I am lactose intolerant but stopped having soya a long time ago (apart from the small amount in chocolate - nothing will induce me to give up chocolate :) ).

bear low GI is the key to bringing PCOS under control. I don't do it religiously, but I do try not to eat sweet things on their own (have some nuts with them or whatever). There is a great book called the PCOS Handbook by Teresa Cheung and somebody else for learning about the condition, if you have it. It was a revelation to me.

Show and tell done. It was actually fine - just us and two other couples. Powerpoint by a friendly nurse, telling us things we knew already, but there was the odd bit of info that was useful. Also we now know that we will almost certainly get a schedule for stabbing at our consultation appt next week. Eeep. Still, HOTB and I went for tea and cake after, so that was nice - you need tea and a sit down to get your mind straight, I find.

Thanks for the advice Euro. I'll wait to see what comes back from dildocam before buying a book, but will definitely consider it. I think when I first came on the conception boards it was you who recommended the Toni Weschler book which I bought and read cover to cover. Sure it was you. Does it sound like you?

Thanks too bugs. Do they know straight away then?

Well done Draf on getting through Show and Tell. Glad it wasn't too horrid. Has it made you feel better or more comfortable about it? (Not sure if you felt wibbly about it to begin with, but just wondered.)

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I don't think that was me. I've never read it! I've seen it mentioned many times on here, so it is possible that I just passed the info on.

They count the follies on the ovary and so they do know straight away. I think King's said they consider over 13 per side polycystic (something like that anyway).

I was diagnosed with PCOS as a teenager. In my early 30s a friend recommended the PCOS Handbook and for the first time I started to understand the condition and how it was linked to blood sugar. My first fertility scans in 2010 showed polycystic ovaries. A year of so later they were described as "multicystic". By the start of IVF they were completely normal. I don't know whether I grew out of it with age or whether good diet and supplements helped to bring it under control. I think post-mc my ovaries might have gone off on one again though, hence the large number of follies trying to grow at the start of this cycle.

I was wobbly about not knowing what to expect from a "group" perspective, bear. I'm trying not to focus too much on "oh crap, I have to do IVF and that means I'm really barren", but had a bit of a cry on HOTB last night. He's pretty chilled about it, though, and monologued about it being a good idea until I calmed down. Although for "the fascinating process of IVF" he used the phrase "this will be fun", for which I nearly lamped him... He realised the error of his ways pretty quickly!

I have been lent/given both the Toni Weschler and Zita West books. I've read about a chapter of each of them and both painfully dull. Weird, really, as normally I like textbooks. I think it was more that the advice was not anything I didn't already know - ie "don't drink too much or smoke too much, shag lots and hope for the best".

Tis I, Faith, undercover....I wanted KeepTheFaith but someone has registered it and never ever posted using it

I have recommended Toni Weschler more than once. I found it very useful. Prior to reading it I had no idea about fertile signs or how to chart.

Having said that, I thought based on my fertile signs that I ovved around CD14 but my scan said CD11 which is why I won't be using those signs as family planning!

Glad the show n tell was ok draf.

Oh my first specialist appointment was a Gynae-endocrinology appointment. I was also seen by a very patronising 12 year old who believed that if you weren't hairy enough to need to shave unusual body parts you couldn't possibly have PCOS . That was simply a history appointment and we were referred on for fanny cam and HSG, given forms for repeat bloods and repeat spaff test for MSB.

In other news, my kidney is broken again :( back to plan A of dyno rod. What fun.

Bacon is very thin, it really doesn't need long at all. You should be fine. Oooh I love carbonara.

Like the new name faif :)

The PCOS book is almost the same word for word as the Getting Pregnant Faster book I bought. Live in an organic cave eating wholegrains and veg you grew yourself and eat fish that swam in a river of unicorn tears whilst having the sechs every other day No Matter What and you'll be popping out baybees faster than your artisan organic corn fed hens can lay eggs.