We will try anything! The big fat posifrickintivity thread of TTC after MC

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A new thread for all you lovely, crazy ladies. Here's to lots of BFPs!

Well we have inadvertently been SMEPping this month. Day 8, 10, 11, 13, day 14 today, probably up for it tonight, possibly tomorrow. According to my app, peak day should have been yesterday, so tonight and tomorrow should have it covered. Its flipping hard work!!

Can someone enlighten me? What is SMEP?! Sounds technical and tiring.....

Sperm Meets Egg Plan. You DTD every other day from day 8, then when you get a high on an OPK or signs that you are OV, 3 days in a row. Apparently it increases the chances by up to 40%. There is a website if you google it.

guff. I know day 8 and I usually don't ovulate till day 17. I am going to be extra tired.
alyant I am with you on chilling out for a couple of cycles if dosen't work this month then time to relax.
saggy you go girl!!!!!!

Early night tonight as DTD in morning before work. Will probably have a basal thermometer in mouth at same time. Oh the romance!!!!

DP isn't aware of SMEP though. He gets a bit freaked out if I actually mention TTC!
I may have put the mockers on tonight actually. I went to Tesco earlier, and bought a turkey baster. because I needed one
I left it on his pillow!

We've been trying the SMEP for two cycles now - but I don't tell the hubby either, if it gets too technical he gets all sulky.

Getting bad pains today, though AF not due until Friday which is weird. Since the MC, pains have become so frequent and stronger.... Seriously, why do women have to put up with this crap, it's so unfair!

Big hugs tea- I think we've all felt that on a regular basis, I was a wreck last night but fine today after I'd demolished half a packet of biscuits.

Hello all, welcome to newbies and sorry you are here.

Cd9 here so should be getting busy but I'm ill and DH is working about 20 hours a day for a couple of days so looks like it ain't going to happen. Have ordered some new cb digi opks though so will hopefully be back in action once we near time just to give ourselves a slight chance this month.

saggy am so impressed with your stamina! Good work!! Saw you on the hamwidge thread yesterday too- was weeping with laughter and disbelief.

For those with more af symptoms than before mc, I definitely get these too. Boobs get sore before af now- which they never used to do (was my only pg symptom- how cruel!) and the ov and af cramping is much more pronounced.

Been sort of SMEP'ing too then. DTD cd 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 12. blimmin knackered. But going to do it once more today - pos opk early yesterday morning so hopefully done all we can this month. Might eat some energy bars and lucosade for later!

We did SMEP last month and it worked for me DH knew nothing about it - my BFP is definitely stronger now so I got brave and rang the community midwife yesterday as I was told when I miscarried to refer ASAP when I got BFP so I can have early scans if I want to.

Tea I know just how you feel, coping fine one day then having a really tough day the next. I hope today is a better day for you

Rock - where abouts are you? Im amazed they said that, thats caring of them. Our NHS people don't really care til you have about 3 miscarriages. I'm pretty much going to fork out for early scans myself, if and when I get preggers again.

Good luck and hope that bean is sticky xx

And tea I'm not having a good week either as I keep hearing more and more pregnancy news. Happy for them but just so wish it was me too. Big hugs. I've cried on the tube too and the bus. The bus incident was after Managing to drop about 20 of my business cards (i keep some in the same place as Oyster card) all over the bus floor and had to scramble to pick them up whilst the bus was moving and a little unstable! I'm sure you can picture a red face flustered person trying desperately not to flash her pants and remain kind of cool about the whole thing. Failed. Embarrassing and not sure how good for business - emotional wreck, sure you want to hire us?

I'm not far from Liverpool, I was shocked that they cared after one miscarriage but don't know if its different as it was MMC - baby died around 8 weeks but wasn't found until my 13 week scan, everything was still growing and producing hormones apparently but just not the baby

Me too. Just a massive sac producing a load of hormones lying to me that I was pregnant still :(

missP you have a SMEP buddy! I've read up on it again and since it's basically what we planned to do anyway with the additional three in a row we're going to go for it. Day 8 is tomorrow....
i've got cheapie ov strips (they came with my bbt) so am going to steal a tube from work to collect my wee in - they say i need to let the reaction go for 40 min once my wee is at room temp!!
Took my first temp this morning after dreaming about it all night.
Project desperate is underway!

teaand bug hugs and for you. we all have days like that and it's so embarrassing. Are you the kind of person who can cry and then look gorgeous 5 min later?? I'm not.

rock that was very brave of you. I hope they do give you the early scan (if you want it). They said the same to me at EPU, also because i had a mmc found at the 12 week scan. When I told that to the Dr later, he said "sometimes they just say that to make you feel better at the time, but when you actually ask them for an early scan they'll say no".
Bollocks to that I say! They promised me an early scan and an early scan I shall have. if i ever get pg again

Morning ladies

I would just like to add that in my experience with the miscarriage, some doctors will be brilliant and very sympathetic and others will be rubbish. You can usually bypass the doctors though and self-refer to your nearest Early Pregnancy Unit. That's exactly what I did when I was pregnant just before I miscarried. I don't think they can actually turn you away. It takes so long to actually get a doctors appointment in Central London that I couldn't be arsed to wait. And rembember you can also fudge your dates slightly! So sorry to hear y

Oops - so many of you are suffering with horrid cramps, and heavy AFs. Mine have always been rotten unless I'm on the pill. I get much worse PMT since the two pregnancy losses. My poor DP would certainly testify to that! Who will be next to POAS on here? Am keeping my bits crossed for everyone x

Well girls, that's it for us! DTD last night, day2 of the final 3 SMEPing, and both fell asleep before we had... cough...
I think both of us are just knackered, so it's uphill to AF now.
I am not bothering to cross my fingers, if I think the worst I won't be disappointed! As for the rest of you, get SHAGGING!

I hope you are feeling better my lovely?

Right ok, big confession to make.... I just POAS! I know I know, big fish slaps coming my way. It was negative, and I knew it would be as I'm not even due until Friday (though I read somewhere that tests can sometimes pick it up as early as 8dpo. Seriously, what's wrong with me??! I've been cramping loads the last couple of days, and craving chocolate which is usually a strong af indicator.

Just re-read through the SMEP rules again, I didn't complete it properly last time as I only did 2 days after ov not 3 + 1. Oh well, there's always next month!

Slap away!

3 days after ov? Really? That means I have two more days to go I think.... Bloomin heck.

Slap slap slap! Way too early sun dance! But tbh I probably would have POAS too!

Haha sorry!!

It's 3 nights in a row from the day you get the strongest opk+ then skip a night, then one final try! Keep going fedup, you're nearly there, then it's back to peaceful sleeping for a bit! :)

sundance! how wicked!!

fx it was just too early.

I do those smiley face cb ones. That say "make love in the next 48 hours after first smiley face and all with be just fine "

So if I got my smiley yesterday morning, how many more days would you suggest we do it? Longing for some peaceful sleep but also want to give it the best go!! Thanks sun dance

Hello again everyone . I have been lurking for sometime since discussing DH's reluctance to TTC again on the last thread. (Had MMC at end of April, baby died at 11+4).

Well, DH has come through for me in spades, and we've had our first TTC cycle. Managed 5 times in 4 days (I am ignoring the fact that DH's reluctance meant we didn't start until Ov day or even O+1, grrr!).

I am now 10DPO and starting the obsessing. I have been studying my BBT graph at length, comparing to my previous pregnancy month, comparing to strangers' temperature graphs, peering at mine through squinty eyes. I have had precisely NO pregnancy symptoms WHATSOEVER. No nausea, no dizziness, no rise in temperature, no implantation dip, no spotting, no 'bubbly' feelings. In fact. we probably started the Shagfest too damn late. But hey, what's a bit of factual scientific evidence to the contrary when you are an obsessive-bonkers-TTCer. I AM UNLIKELY TO BE PREGNANT

And I won't even test until 18DPO because my luteal phase is anything from 14-18 days - so AF is due Saturday-Tuesday. Just in time for a Naming Ceremony at the weekend. Nice. Aaargh! Hate this bit!!!!

So sorry to see Over and Rainbow back on this shitty thread. for you guys. Life really fucking sucks sometimes, doesn't it?

fedup - I'm always the same come OV week - technically I'm still a newly wed but the thought of DTD so frequently is a pain sometimes, quite frankly!

So basically, you've got just a little further to go. Say you tested positive on the OPK today, then you would need to do it tonight, tomorrow and Thursday, then take a break Friday, then have another go on Saturday. That's what the SMEP recommends anyway. I misread it first time and did just the day I tested + and the day after then left it. Because the OPK's are quite vague and say OV could be anytime in the next 48 hours, you definitely need to do the next 2 days - not so sure why you have to leave it for a day then have another go, presumably because there are exceptions to the rule when people ovulate, but the woman who devised the plan says that this was designed for people who had experienced a MC, and she said that 40% of couples who stick to it have a success rate!

Good luck - I really hope it works out for us all. It might be a load of rubbish but I'll happily take it as the law for the time being.

Dearly, keeping my fingers crossed for you anyway. If it hasn't worked out this time, then reckon we'll both be in the same boat at the same time so we can be POAS buddies!! :)

hi DDMF i'm glad to hear that your DH finally got with the program. hooray! FX for you.
you could test friday? you'd be 13 DPO.... might help with obsessive knickers checking at the naming ceremony