Eggcellent Egg Buddies: are you IVF cycling in June/July/August 2013? Then get your druggy arses over here for some pure fucking menkulling...

[juicypair]

NokklingtonStStation, I couldn't find a new thread so I made this one, cock. Hope I did the right thing

[twinklestar2]

Hmmm different answers from everyone! Suppose I'll just have to wait and see what they say next week!

[Nokkie73]

Hello ladies

Thanks for all the lovely thoughts today. Luckily, everything is absolutely fine. The doctor actually dated me as being 9+3, and then thought that she over-measured and said that I was 9 weeks. She's lovely but a bit ditzy and said that they will date me properly at the twelve week scan. Anyway, heartbeat was seen but the little blighter was curled-up in a ball and wouldn't have his photo taken properly. The doctor was rummaging around my fandango for AGES and he still wouldn't uncurl. He did flip over though. I may have to sign up for the circus at this rate.

Today, I am going to quit worrying for 24 hours. I have such a long way to go but I do need to stop and enjoy it for a day or so here and there.

tame you have posted some cracking stuff today AND are displaying a very amusing (and unusual, although I am sure there's a website for it somewhere) arse/kibble fixation. I really really hope everything is ok with you. I hope the following helps. The doctor thinks that I cracked an egg out the minute ivf finished. I tested negative on 30th March 2013 following ET on 17th March. I must have laid an egg very soon after my period which came on 1st April. I then had a bleed on 21st April which started off with fresh looking blood for about 24 hours and then turned into old looking blood for about two days afterwards. I then had another bleed on 28th April which was the same - fresh looking blood for 24 hours followed by a couple of days of old looking blood. I worked out that the bleed on 28th April was when my period should have been (and a bleed when your period should have been is very common). So, what I'm trying to say is that bleeding will not necessarily mean the worst. If old looking blood is coming out as well as fresh blood, then that may be a positive sign. Your positivity is absolutely amazing which can only be helping things. Xx

joos I came across Agate on Fertility Fiends. Now there's a bird who knows her onions. Her list of questions for a failed ivf cycle is a work of bloody art. We just had fish and chips - I thought of your chip shop slag. Has he been flashing his bits for a bag of scraps lately ?

expat you are well underway now. All that mixing sounds very dangerous to me !

twinks hello missus IVF ! Sorry, I cannot help with the start date discrepancy. Euro may know - she knows everything about ivf because she is a boffin.

Hello to everyone else.

Noks x

[chocoloco1]

noks bloody brilliant, well done!

[Nokkie73]

Aww, thanks choco xx

[tametortie]

Noks- im so happy for you!!! Fab news. So, you have actually bled a few times during this pregnancy? How bizarre!! I hope you don't mind me asking, I must have missed this but I didn't realise you had ivf?? Was that your first cycle?? What was your diagnosis? Tell me to piss off if im being nosey but for some reason I thought you had been building up to treatment and had a surprise?!!

Im going to print off agates failed cycle thingy tomorrow and press penny about some of the points in there. She won't know what's fucking hit her. We even went and bought a new house phone today for me to speak to her on.

Bleeding is steadily getting redder with a couple of tiny tiny clots. Fuck my life, honestly.

I've booked a French swaree in July so won't be able to cycle again till august/september. Will absolutely 100% go back to nurture- the aftercare has been amazing. X

[tametortie]

Oh and noks- thanks for praising my posts!!! I dont feel positive. I feel fucking militant. I have had a taste of the happiness bubble and I want more....!!! That feeling of seeing an actual bfp is like crack.

[buzzybee123]

noks thats great news

[Nokkie73]

tame the bfp crackwhore . I am more than happy to share. I had my first ivf earlier this year. They got five eggs and four fertilised which, considering my results, was a really good outcome. Basically, as I said above, I had ET on 18th March and they transferred two three-day embies. One grade A and one with slight fragmentation so it was graded a B. I had to test on 30th March and it was negative. Basically, this time last year all of my fertility results were fine. They then decided to get on the last bus out of Dodge City and go on a fucking extended holiday. My oestradiol went crazy and my AMH when it was last measured just before IVF was 1.1 which, as they say in the industry, is a total packet of dog shit. I was waiting to be treated on the NHS in Surrey as they reinstated funding last April. However, one fuck-up after another and my declining test results meant that I was rather unceremoniously thrown-off of funding. Bank of Ma and Pa paid for a private round of treatment at Guys which failed, but it must have done something to my system. I gave-up smoking on 1st Jan, virtually stopped drinking white wine as it is supposed to affect fertility (but drank red instead -life is too short not to have red wine !) and took pregnacare and royal jelly (well, I have been taking royal jelly since last year). I cut-out caffeine completely, stopped drinking fizzy drinks, drank one cup of green tea per day, ate loads of Brazil nuts (for selenium) and walnuts (the Romans used walnuts in fertility rites as they thought they were good for that sort of thing - and they weren't stupid that lot. I should know, I've seen all four series of Spartacus). When ivf failed, I also started taking l'arginine, Co-q10, maca, dong quai (not during period) omega 3 and evening primrose oil (not after ovulation). Now I took these for a very short period of time comparatively speaking so it may not have helped me lay the egg, but I am not ruling out the fact that these may have helped the pregnancy stick. I had shorter than usual cycles (24 days) which my acupuncturist said may have affected my ability to get and stay pregnant (the extra four days of a 28-day cycle can really make the difference in terms of plumping up the uterus to sustain a pregnancy). Oh, and I also had acupuncture (since last year) and reflexology (since this year). Take what you like from all that - I only offer it to you as my example just in case it will help you (or anyone else for that matter).

Just ask if there's anything else you need to know. Like I said before, I am keeping everything crossed for you. You really deserve this to work.

Noks xx

[DjuicyUnchained]

Nokks, what utterly fantastic news and what a blessing to see! Well done, old girl

In other news I have been outed by my sister! She just texted me to say she has just joined mumsnet to seek advice about her eldest going to uni and she found a thread I was on when I was Jewcy and could see it was me! I'm really not happy about it - I'm so sweary on here!! Do you think she'll link Jewcy to JuicyPear/JuicyPair/DjuicyUnchained?

Raaaaaaaaaa.........!!!

[Nokkie73]

Cheers joos. Aren't you sweary in real life . Is another name change in order ?

[DjuicyUnchained]

Nokks, if you don't separate your epic posts into paragraphs next time I'll come round your gaff and pummel you will a pouch of Felix.

[DjuicyUnchained]

No, Nokks, I'm not - what with my family being Jews

[DjuicyUnchained]

Nokks, is your real name Mary and is your husband a cabinet-maker called Joe?

[tametortie]

I can't imagine you aren't sweary in real life joos- that has burst my bubble!! Hope she doesn't find the post about the tit wank. That was my fave!!! =D

Noks- thanks for all that. My amh is 4.5 and I think I may try a bit of royal jelly. I had been taking dhea but I dont think I should take it without proper blood tests. I am going to continue with acupuncture and keep the vits simple- you can go too wild. I've been rattling.

I've got 3 ten year olds going wild here at the minute at a sleepover. They are hilarious. For those of you TTC/PG with #1- you have all of my hopes and prayers. I thank God everyday for my DD xxx

[tametortie]

Although, there really is no point us TTC naturally cos sperm can't get in my eggs. I fucking shit you not!!! When I donated eggs, neither my husbands or the other blokes sperm could crack my eggs.

Is there anything out there to soften egg zona???!!!

Fuck my life.

[Nokkie73]

joos paragraphs are for girls. Fuck paragraphs. They suck cock real hard. Paragraphs take it up the poop shoot. with kibbles

I have a vision of Mr Joos in the chippy of an evening, whapping it out on the counter for an extra portion (fnar) while you're outside swearing and flipping the bird at passers-by. Is this not true ?

tame you're welcome. I hope it's not too High School Musical with you !

[tametortie]

Its a bit mean girls if im honest.

[Nokkie73]

tame I don't know about softening your eggies but some of the other stuff I took may help little beans stick around. It can't hurt. I did some research about dhea and it was inconclusive for me so I didn't take it. Royal Jelly is supposed to help egg quality so it may be worth a go. Make sure you get a higher dose supplement. Don't get it for holland and barrett as their stuff tends to be lower dosage and a load of old shit.

[tametortie]

That aptimist royal jelly stuff is supposed to be the bollocks. I've got a good 3 months now to give things a good whirl.

Im gonna book in with the nutritionist at zita west too- best 125 quid I ever spent. That woman knew her stuff.

I might ask penny about the hard zona tomorrow too- she may have some ideas. And she should be able to hear me very clearly on my new phone.

[DjuicyUnchained]

NOTHING IMPROVES EGG QUALITY

As you were...

[buzzybee123]

juicy which thread did she find you on, if its one where you kept the name jewcy then you should be ok

tortie sorry about the bleeding, maybe you need a higher dose of progesterone from EC maybe???

[DjuicyUnchained]

Buzzy, she found me on a thread where I was called Jewcy. It's just really quite discomfiting to know your sister has found you amongst the thousands of other Jewish, donor-egg-IVF, chippy-loving, cat-owning Northerners

[tametortie]

Djuicytitwank- I was looking forward to spending a fortune on useless vits!!!

Im thinking the best thing to improve egg quality is the actual drug protocol you are on e.g. Long/short, gonal f/menopur

[Nokkie73]

So he was in the chippy for a while with it flapping about in the wind then ? What a total slag

Awwww, he does sound like a proper romantic though. He'll be slathering the curry sauce all over your pups and having a right old time of it before you know it.

tame vitamin E and essential fatty acids help, apparently.