Eggcellent Egg Buddies: are you IVF cycling in June/July/August 2013? Then get your druggy arses over here for some pure fucking menkulling...

[juicypair]

NokklingtonStStation, I couldn't find a new thread so I made this one, cock. Hope I did the right thing

[tametortie]

Hard eggs? Where did you find that noks? X

[buzzybee123]

I don't think I know anyone who comes on MN,I don't think they would be impressed by my carry on on some of these threads

man what a day, its been crap, i'm ready for bed . . . .

[Nokkie73]

tame a fertile heart. Mam just checking out another website I found helpful - natural fertility info.

Wassup buzz !

[EuroShaggleton]

Oooo, a whole day to catch up on!

Sorry about the norty pussy juicy. And being tracked down.

tame I'm glad the good cry helped. I'd be interested to hear about your consultation with Penny. I've corresponded with her over email when I had the menstrual blood tested, but never picked her brains!

BTW, I felt the same about my pregnancy - it showed I could get pregnant (it was my first BFP ever). I had begun to doubt that.

It's interesting what you say about your family. I'm similar. I'm an only and my mum took a year to get pg with me in her early 20s and then had 3 miscarriages. Her mum had 2 children 10 years about (suggesting some ishoo there) and her brother has never had children (don't know if he has ever ttc). My dad is an only too.

Hurrah for a good scan Noks! I'm so pleased for you and your little acrobat.

buzz you just knackered or is something else going on?

AFM, there's not much going on. I'm just trying to figure out whether or not I have ovulated. Not much I can do other than keep temping and see what happens. But in less than 2 weeks, I should be calling the clinic again and getting back on the IVF train (cervical biopsy results permitting). Toot toot!

[Nokkie73]

Cheers euro. It is interesting when you look back at family history in this context, isn't it ? Mine is the complete opposite. My mum is one of three, dad one of eight (Jamaicans don't muck about !). English maternal grandparents were one of seven and eight respectively and paternal grandparents were one of lots and lots. I came to the conclusion that I was the fuckwit of the family.

[buzzybee123]

euro I have sore boobs and bad indigestion with the odd womble cramp, I think the tiredness is due to crap diet and steroids I've spend the day with my patient who is afraid of his bitch of a wife and doesn't want to go home, then trying to get hold of some drugs so I don't have to see Shehata again

[keepitgoing]

noks!! So pleased for you :)

Just wanted to say to twinkle that if you do short protocol (no down regging) you start on day 2/3 of your cycle. Long protocol (with down regging) starts on day 21 usually, though some clinics start at other times. This is how our shsz was differ but didn't know if when she started down regging. Good luck!

[twinklestar2]

In what scenario would you have to down reg or not down reg?

[twinklestar2]

I told a friend about the IVF on Monday. Was good to tell her but then last night we met up and I was talking about it and the 2ww and how I was just planning to relax and do nothing. And she said to me 'when everyone was telling you to relax and it might happen you we're saying it wasn't important!'. Arrrrrggggghhhh! Just fuck off!!

[keepitgoing]

Yes, just fuck off 'relax...'

They usually say LP if you are young and have good egg reserves. But, there is mixed evidence. It's supposed to be to time all the eggs together at the same stage. Or cynically, for Nhs clinics to not do egg collection every day. I am young and with good eggs, but insisted on SP at my (private, abroad) clinic because - quicker, fewer drugs, cheaper, doesn't seem less effective. I had a bfp. But I think you will need to go with their recommendation.

[keepitgoing]

Oh, I think you get more eggs with LP.

[tametortie]

I am seriously interested in short protocol. Im wondering if it will have any impact on my eggs. Also, buserilin makes me feel suicidal. I've never felt so wretched in my life as when I was down regging this time. I feared for my sanity and honestly wondered if dh was going to bother turning up to give his sample.

Twink- if rl friends are not up to the job, you can confide in us. I've been lucky- my mates are amazing (they are all childless and clueless!) and they have really stepped up recently. That kind of support is so valuable but just grab it where you can. We can all totally relate .

Well today is the day I get my international Greek consultation. Am quite excited! Mainly on the agenda- hidden c testing, egg quality, sperm quality, immune testing. Sounds cheeky but I want to chat through stuff and see what my gp can help me with. I can't justify travelling to Greece for a hysteroscopy with dd in tow. My GP is pretty good and might help me out with a few things.

Bleeding has slowed a little here. Blood test tomorrow. Im not hopeful, I lost a fair bit yesterday. And I dont feel pregnant. I know folk raise eyebrows at that sort of phrase and say 'you never know!' but I need to be realistic to protect myself. I think there is a slim chance all will be ok. Onwards and upwards.....

[tametortie]

Must also say at this point how much I hate clearblue conception indicators.

I tested with one on Tuesday afternoon and it said pregnant 1-2 and used one this morning and it says pregnant 1-2.

Im quite resigned to the fact that things aren't working out for me. By my LMP I am 4+6 and by EC I am 4+3.

But these tests must cause some terrible stress for women?? Google is full of stories from women picking these tests apart and diagnosing miscarriages. And apparently they are only 65% accurate?? What do you all think?? I think they are a bit dangerous. Perhaps good if used as a rough guide but women in our position are rarely going to be relaxed about something like that.

[tametortie]

Just wanted to put that out there

[keepitgoing]

Oh tortie I hope all is well tomorrow... You need to go by EC not LMP. And I agree those conception indicators are Evil. Good luck with your hopefully unnecessary consultation.

[tametortie]

I did wonder what I am dated by- FF gives both options.

It would be amazing if I didn't need the info later but regardless- I will feedback and we can all have a good speculating session about some of her ideas =)

[buzzybee123]

tortie the CD digi wouldn't move on so fast in just a few days, your HCG is still in the 1-2 weeks which is where you are at. keep is correct about the LMP.
I am a fan of them as they tell you so you are not left squinting at lines wondering and when the indicator moves up you know something is happening.
The thing is you won't know until the blood test, like I said with my second pregnancy I had a look at my records that I kept and I put 'blood loss clots medium' that went on for 3 days, the bleeding started as spotting and it went on for 7 days, son't give up yet my lovely

expat I like your thinking

I am 'working from home and taking S/L, couldn't face patients today, think I might have a uti?? I think I am getting somewhere with all my drugs though

[tametortie]

What do you do buzzy? Im fascinated about this talk of patients??

x

[twinklestar2]

Thx keep for explanation!

Keeping my fingers crossed for you tame.

[buzzybee123]

I work for the nhs as a rehab assistance, I work with elderly people who have had falls, strokes parkinsons etc, we help them get back to being independent

[JuicyMelons]

What's occurring?

Listen, girls, I'm 'going dark' for a while. Yesterday I had a post deleted literally minutes after sending it. Someone obviously took umbrage at my non-PC description of my Chinese chippy man and I suspect that it was a regular reader/contributor to this thread as the reporting of it was so speedy (unless, of course, the culprit is one of those professionally outraged mumsnetters who regularly trawl threads looking for stuff to be, well...outraged at. I doubt it, though, like I said my post was reported immediately which leads me to conclude it's a regular reader).

Either way, it's a little discomfitting to know there is someone reading this thread who would rather my not be here. I know I'm very non-politically correct and a little outrageous but that's who I am. I'm kind and honest, too. I'm not being paranoid, either; there are women all over this board tearing each other apart and none of it gets sanctioned. I don't think I want to be a part of this kind of bullshit and, although you lot have been lovely and supportive, I'm pretty pissed off that some shithead is lurking and reporting.

I'm being whisked away on a pre-IVF break by th'usband and we're going somewhere very rural so I would be going dark anyway until I return. If I return, that is....

[JuicyMelons]

In case my huff becomes permanent I want to wish all of you the greatest of success with your cycles/pregnancies. I will, of course, report back if there is any good news after my IVF. Thank you to all of you who have been supportive

[tametortie]

NO NO NO!!! Do not go!!! None of us would have reported you, no way!!! And this is OUR Fred and we will say what the fuck we like.

Do not 'go dark' juicy we need you xxxxx