Eggcellent Egg Buddies: are you IVF cycling in June/July/August 2013? Then get your druggy arses over here for some pure fucking menkulling...

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NokklingtonStStation, I couldn't find a new thread so I made this one, cock. Hope I did the right thing

Obviously, I am more than aware that 48 follicles doesn't necessarily lead to a good quality harvest or a harvest at all.

I'm concerned about my health, a cancelled cycle or quantity waaaayyyyyy over quality

juicy didn't the clinic advise you, most ususally say at least 72 hours but not more than 5 days

tortie thinking of you today

fish how far into stimming are you ? That sounds like a lot of follies to be stimulating at any stage of the process. How big are the follies ? If I were you, I would ask the clinic whether, in their view, that amount of follies are higher than they would have expected of you (considering your test results and AMH etc) at this stage. When they scanned me during stimming, they took measurements of the follies and not all of them were mature enough by trigger to produce an egg. That said, I would still ask them whether the follies they have seen so far as measuring what they would expect at this stage.

I would also ask them why they have placed you on 225 of Gonal-F as this does seem to have stimulated you to a very high degree. Your reaction could have been unusual but I think you want to check that they have actually considered a. What protocol they put you on (and the reasoning behind it) and b. the dosage of drugs they have put you on (and the reasoning behind it). You would think that someone has, somewhere down the line, but I really think it's worth checking right now. I would specifically ask whether it is right that they keep you on 225 for the next couple of days and then reduce it, or where they they should reduce it now.

Apologies if those questions sound a bit too fecking obvious but I have only had experience of the opposite end of the spectrum (I literally injected pen after pen of Gonal-F for my five eggies, because my AMH is a massive bag of steaming shitache and I am older than Yoda's granny). However, there is absolutely no point in stimulating you to this degree and making you produce lots of immature eggs which are of no use to you and have to be discarded. I would also check that this dosage of Gonal-F won't affect the quality of eggs which you will produce (put another way, will a reduction in the dosage potentially mean that you produce fewer eggs but of a much better quality). I hope that helps.

Noks xx

Hurrah wish is back. Fecking hell, first joos and then you. Hmmmmm, I'm feeling left out. I may have a strop of my own just to fit in. .

twinks if I were you I would make a complaint. That is fucking ridiculous. They also need to sort their shit out and advise you about your protocol. Ffs, how can they ask you which one you fancy ? You're not shopping for shoes or choosing a cake. Kick some butt there - this is too important for them to be sodding about and making you feel like you're being a nuisance.

joos omg. You were funk-raped by pissed Scouse hags. How alarming. Do they not understand that only us lot can get down with you in Funky Town ? I totally understand where you're coming from re the disliking kids at certain ages thing. If I see one of the little blighters on a train, I sit as far away from it's snot covered beak as I can. I hate squarking kids. However, reading your lists I conclude that there are several options for you:

1. Boarding school
2. Kiddy-Dermy if s/he really gets on your tits
3. Sleeping tablets for you and the kids
4. A massive padlock on the Piss/Shit Shack

I am sorry, but I do not buy this horseshit about you not wanting to stand at the gates with all the middle class mums though. Think of all the fun you, and especially you, would have tormenting them.

I am 11+2 today. Some times I feel preggers, other times I do not. Scan next week. Tbh, I am doing my own fecking head in with it all and just want to get to the scan to make sure everything is alright.

Greetings to all the other lovely ladies here today. You rock.

Noks xx

I haven't started stimming yet first jab due tonight. ideally, not all of those follicles will stimulate. I don't think anyone wants that.

Good questions- when they call later to advise dosage I will ask! I should have been informed of dosage today (in fact I was asked to take the pen with me - probably to give first dose, but this was not done due to no of follicles). DH has just told me that the nurse said there was going to be a consultation today to discuss my results and dosage.

The nurse also said that my extra scan on monday will be to have a look at how many have stimmed so that dosage can be readjusted if necessary.

I'm tempted to take the fingers in ears/let the experts do their thing approach , but I need to get involved and question everything don't I.

Thanks nokk - I'm forever getting you and nooks mixed up.
11+2 eh? Woohoo!!! Thats ace.

Buzzy, yes the clinic told me three days of abstinence but that was only yesterday when I was also informed EC will be a day later. My coordinator has put my mind at rest saying the longer abstinence the better (up to five days, of course).

FishFingers, I am alarmed on your behalf about all those follies, but then again I've never had 'normal' IVF so I can't advise you at all. Nokkie's advice sounds brilliant, though. I hope you get some peace of mind and answers x

Nokks, thanks for understanding my growing baby hatred. Every baby I pass here has I'm a needy little shit tattooed across its forehead. I'm sure this is all a self-preservation strategy subconsciously firing up but I'm strangely reassured by it.

Brno is a steaming heap of knobcheese. Fact. I have explored its landmarks in just under two hours and have sworn never to leave my hotel room except in an emergency. By emergency I do not mean a fire I mean a trip to Tesco from whence I have just returned. I have stocked up on buns, Laughing Cow cheese triangles, caffeine drinks (yes, for me), cheese and ham slices, Toblerone and Milka bars, Fig Rolls and apples.

When I met th'usband one of the first things I told him was that I will never go on walks which take longer than twenty minutes. I cannot bear to walk aimlessly, even in the name of romance. This morning I sent him on a hunt for ReproGenesis clinic and he returned saying it was 25 minutes away on foot. His task for tomorrow is to find the nearest tram stop which will take us to the clinic. Tesco is 23 mins away so I shan't be going there again.

The Czechs are the gruffest, most insolent arseholes I have ever met (more so than the French) and I have travelled extensively (every continent except Antarctica). I miss my gorgeous, leafy village and my darling cats who at least understand me. I particularly miss taking a piss for free: McDonald's and Tesco charge 25p; what a bunch of bastards.

my AMH is a massive bag of steaming shitache and I am older than Yoda's granny.

This is why I love you

hello everyone iv had a vary bad night ,really bad headaches then really hot my heart pounding(palpitations) went to bed and woke up 4am palpitations and very hot feeling awful took paracetamol to get temp down really worried about what these drugs are doing to my body iv not been to bad on buserelin till last night,not really up to more drugs but first injection of menopur tonite via pen dose of 2- 75 menopur to 1 water will i feel better or worse shitting it iv been really bad.
life my nurse didnt say much just said i was ready to start and my ovary still looked pcos but not drastically,you start stimming tonight aswell then good luck ,i know why your worried about ohss thats what iv been like but ask the nurse later i did she just said only 1 in 60 women started every month get it and if i feel ill during stimms phone them.has anyone else had palpitations on buserelin?

What news, Je T'ame? x

hey juicy how you doing your donor seems to be responding well good news,you dont hate kids you luuuuuv them

TellMejustToShutUp, you're right - I do love kids, I just couldn't eat a full one

wish stick around hows your stimming going you have pcos to right?

hi expat iv still had few palpitations today maybe im run down with all this and iv been down regging 3 weeks

Afternoon all!

Fish I can't comment as no one has ever mentioned my follicles until I've started Stimming.

Wish glad you're staying :)

Today (day 10) had bloods then called back for more bloods and a scan. The dr said everything was going really well and I shouldn't even compare with last time, as this cycle is much better, so feeling much better. Looks like I may trigger tomorrow... Eck!!!!

Regarding that... Once you've triggered, is it 24 or 12 hrs you wait till EC? I think I remember having a day off last time, but it's all a bit of a blur!

life I agree with what noks said, it really is all about quality over quantity, you don't want them to cancel your cycle because of ohss , 10 to 13 would be ample, glad to hear they will scan you more

mejust sorry you are feeling crap

juicy there are alot of places worse than Brno, I didn't mind the people but then I love the French , I think Croatia and Greece are the too rudest places I have been to, wasn't impressed when I arrived here in the UK but the place has grown on me are you going to the caves or any other towns near Brno??

You need the number 1 tram to your clinic, you can catch it outside the train station

tortie I really hope you are ok

Sorry people to ignore you all while reading advice for me but I am concerned in a - sod a baby, whats this going to do to my body way

So, clinic has called, my hit of gonal f has been reduced to 150 for 3 days then 112.5 for 3 days then a scan and bloods to see whats happening.

The 'team' are concerned as no one wants all or even 75% of those follicles to grow. I was also cheerfully informed that I'll feel like shit and will bloat etc regardless due to the number of follies... The weather needs to improve as I can barely get into my jeans now.

Same nurse called but she was much more accessible this evening I guess she had a shit morning!

juicy i think you need to write lonely planet guides! Let us know if you do a write up for the first hotel, I'd like to read it. And 0.25 for a piss? Mind you I paid 30p at liverpool st this week. Keeps the street phamaceutical junkies out (well, i'm on drugs myself just now so have to expand upon the terminology)

mejust my pharmacist buddy advises ginger (fresh if possible) to help with nausea. I get night sweats a few days before my period and according to my podcast ('stuff mom never told you' - its great!) hot flushes/nightsweats are due to hormone clash.

wish if you you are still reading, this is why you need to stay - we all learn from each others experiences, doesn't matter if you do not post often.

expat as I have nothing to compare to - it is useful to know that my clinic are being proactive in your opinion. It does feel like a conveyor belt and strangely enough I am more concerned about my body's reaction than I am about the final outcome.

But. Have decided - fuck it. What can I do? What wil be will be so no point in worrying about feeling shite when it hasn't started yet.

Buzzy, I'm feeling a lot more positive about this city now I've had a decent I am your quintessential xenophobe but then again I'm not keen on the British, either

Yes! The No.1 tram, but we are slap bang between the train station and ReproG by the looks of it, so th'usband just needs to find the place nearest to our hotel where the No.1 stops

Poor Mejust, you're really having it tough, love x

I'm worried about Tortie, too.

mejust I do indeed have pcos. Worse on one ovarie than the other apparently but this has only just been shared with me! When I started Gonal-F for the first time at the end of last year I experienced what you have described and I feel for you. It's not a nice experience, I ended up in A&E thinking I had ohss.

You need to chill until it passes x

karbea how exciting! Its great and I'm sure a relief to you that this cycle is better.

buzzy my main worry after the effects to me, are - what if they cancel due to over stim... I know this really is not a good result.

Incidentally, I think the only reason why I know the number of follicles is because it is so high. Judging by my googling, over 20 for each ovary is above average and counter productive to success (antral follicles in case anyone is interested. I.e the number of 'resting' follicles) average is 7 to 10and ideal. I have 20 and 28!

So, i'm crossing my fingers for a low response - Infertility is just rammed pack with ironies.

I know life I do need you guys

Btw - I'm still on bureselin, just a lesser dose each day.

Hi everyone,

I called the clinic AGAIN and then they finally got back to me. They've said they are putting me on the short as I can do either and the short is easier on the body and the most common one they offer and there are no difference in success rates.

So after all that stressing I'm still doing the short. Means I can start earlier too - and be pregnant next month! Exciting!

wish actually, I was hoping you'd ave some input into my issues, rather than you learning from it