Eggcellent Egg Buddies: are you IVF cycling in June/July/August 2013? Then get your druggy arses over here for some pure fucking menkulling...

[juicypair]

NokklingtonStStation, I couldn't find a new thread so I made this one, cock. Hope I did the right thing

Juicy- do not get bogged down with negativity. For every bad story, there will be 10 good ones. Folks that have a failure will quickly look for reasons.

Be positive!!!! You are going to the best place xxxxx

My history by the way, for anyone interested.
Me 37, DH 48
2010 DH had vasectomy reversal of 20 years and BFP Feb 2011 but mc at 6 weeks. Aug 2013 DH had surgical sperm retrieval PESA.
IVF # 1 Nov 2013 3 eggs, 2 fertilised, 2 embryos put back, BFN
iVF #2 Feb/March 2013 1 egg collected and fertilised, BFP then mc before 6 weeks
#3 planned for July

Juicy - someones got to come home pregnant from that clinic. Why not you?

I have every sympathy for that lady, but she could be a troll, she is making assumptions, she could be 72 years old. Step away from reviewing the clinic. It is too late to do anything now anyway, so just go with the flow.

Thanks Choc! Totally sucking up to you now as I got you confused. I'm not sure winking is approriate but that's the best I can do with a limited range of emoticons.

juicy who knows if it's all true, don't know why these people feel it's helpful to share, hardly helpful now, is it? You're going to Prague, no bloody copping out now woman. [unhelpful]

Life I love that line! You are so right.

Nooks I forgot about an earlier post of yours, we were playing 'who has the longest protocol'!

I am not even fully versed on what the scan is for and what happens next. I knew it all before we started, but I think I've got mental block. And I am cool with that!

Choco - don't be jealous, 3 lots of flowers in 10 years is fairly shoddy! I think I posted here about how resentful I had been the night before over being a woman and having periods? Well it was a 3 hr feminist rant really, he obviously had had enough.

I mean really, I've been poked, prodded, shagged, knocked out, jabbed, operated on, cut open, scanned, rummaged, drugged up within an inch of my life during this process.

He's had a good few shags, 1 jab and two wanks.

Flowers just even the score a teeny tiny bit.

Well , I'll go with this then nook at the stalking!

Nook - I stole it from DH who was reassuring me yesterday when I flagged for a second.

He's had a good few shags, 1 jab and two wanks. Love it.

Yes! Choco is back on side!

Life I hear you. This is my third time and I'm still a little hazy on the detail! I think the scan is to make sure our wombs are stripped bare. Nice.

My husband is being rather lovely but I cant help that when he says "it's the least I can do, you're going through all the hard stuff" I think

twinks your AMH is based on a blood test but if you had a non stimming scan and there were a few eggs/follicles then that is good, some places don't use AMH they use E2, everywhere is different

nook

juicy you have to remember that IVF is a business to make money at the end of the day, she wants an answer as to why it failed and if it was true the clinic are hardly going to own up, but they usually put two in one straw for storage
I think the concern is that she said they didn't use the ASRM for transfer, I think you might just want to check with the ladies who have been, at Reprofit you see your blastos on a screen then they sucked into the catheter and the next you see them on the scan, its usually a blob thing, then the check that the catheter is empty, the embryologist came back and said it was and we could see that something had bee shot up into my uterus, maybe the lady missed it all as she was pissed off with them, I'd be surprised if they didn't use it or something similar to be honest, everywhere has its pros and cons

juicy those are the tests required for IVF here, regardless of embryo monitoring.

Re: the laptop, blame the flooding - what if you need to find alternative flights??? You NEED that laptop .

I fucking hate GA. It's a loss of control thing - the idea of being unconscious while people do things to me, particularly to my ladybits, sends me a bit doolally. EC is not a happy experience for me.

tame that's quite some headfuck! how are you feeling?

twink I've been told long protocol is done in most cases for the clinic's convenience (they can time it so there is no EC at weekends, so they can close then). I think there can be some clinical advantages in getting all the eggs to mature at once, but some drs are pretty septical. And I think it is helpful where there is PCOS to control hormone levels. Personally, I found downregging such a soul destroying experience, I would avoid it at all costs and go for SP.

You would have had a blood test for AMH. It's not done as standard on the NHS. I had it done privately. You were most likely told you had a good no of eggs based on your antral follicle count - the number of follies present at the beginning of your cycle, which give an indication as to how your ovaries will react to the IVF drugs. I'm guessing though as I don't know what they did to you!

I didn't have a trial ET. I'd had two unproblematic IUIs though and a HSG.

life so true. While I was having a knitting needle shoved into my ovaries mr euro was having a slightly less than ideal wank across he corridor. I know which room I would have preferred to be in.

Thx buzzy, I'll ask my doc tomorrow when he calls. Must remember to take phone with me if I do a crisp run.

hello bloody hell you lot have been chatting its took me ages reading through the messages and when i finished there was more
iv been quiet past couple of days feeling sorry for myself the length of time of all this jabbing and stuff got me down a bit and i didnt want to come on and moan .i dont really know much about all this but looking at my meds i think ill be stimming with just menopur has anyone done that?

expat good luck for EC tomorrow

twink i wasnt given an option on protocol they told me i was being put on long but prob due to pcos

tam im hoping its gonna be good news for you could it of been implantation as some women say it can be like a light period.

buzz glad to hear erythings going well

juicy take the laptop we need updates now and then,read your post to hubby about the arm bands he pissed himself laughing,i dont think anything will stop you getting there

nook how are you getting on at the moment i dont think we are that far apart.

hi to wish life motor nokkie and everyone else

Mejust - I'm only doing menopur this time! I was on menopur and gonal f last time. No idea why. I've given up asking my lot for intelligent answers! When do you start menopur?

I know what you mean about it being a drag. My advice is to be super nice to yourself and feel grumpy if you want to - but please come on here and tell us about it!

nook i have base line scan on monday so if i have down regged and all is well around that time ,when do you start stimming? and does the menopur burn as iv read that and also can i use a pen to inject it as my husbands done all mine with the pen and says he wont do them with out it as he would find it hard to put needle in me like that.
how have you been on the drugs im ok for few days then it all feels like a bit much

You know what? I am pretty sure the clinic did balls-up freezing that woman's embryos but a 'cycling buddies' forum is not the place to come and grind your fucking axe. Us 'buddies' over there are in the fucking middle of our cycles - on drugs, have chosen donors, have paid for flights and accommodation and have only our hopes to cling onto. I don't need some devastated non-upduffer to come barging in with her conspiracy theories. And what is more...I don't give a flying fuck if the embryologist stands twelve feet back and fires the fuckers up my vagina via a catapult as long as he's got a fucking good aim.

As you were, ladies...

juicy you are hysterical - your posts give me a chuckle every day, even when life is crap and freaky for you - big hugs to you for still managing to find the fun in all this shit!

tame buzzy hang on in there - everyone is with you.

Am on the long protocol which is more than likely to fit in with the clinic but as it all worked so well last time I figured it was best to go down the same route again. I've been more if a total emotional bitchbag since after the miscarriage than I was throughout the whole ivf process - is that odd??

Does anyone know more about this thing where they monitor the embryos as they're growing by taking hundreds of pics of them? It was in the news the other week being done in Manchester - do they do it anywhere else yet?

Oh and juicy seriously - you HAVE to have t'interweb whilst away - the only place it's acceptable to be out of touch is on a romantic idyll somewhere glorious where all you're doing is shagging. Other than that you NEED it - it's the law!! It's too awful to contemplate otherwise!

juicy she most likely thinks she is helping you make a choice by telling you about her experience so you can decide whether you want to continue or not, for some women who are just at the beginning they might change their mind I know it doesn't help those in the middle of their cycles as it put fear and doubt in your mind, but then I suppose if it does do that then you'd need to decide if you wanted to continue and ignore her as a crazy lady or take onboard what she and others have said,

tortie thinking of you, hoping the hcg goes up

Just seen you replied to my question, euro, thx very much.

Oh juicy you do make me laugh! Are you having one or two eggs put back? Please take the laptop with you, I'll miss you too much! Plus we need updates on how you're getting on out there.

Morning all

buzzy/ tame how are you doing?

juicy even if a mistake was made, then the clinic will have most likely have reviewed the policy somlightening doesn't strike twice. It's too ate to change anything, it's out of your control. So just focus on your womb being strong enough for that catapult. Yes I just clenched while writing that!

nook wombs stripped bare gave me a mental image of rolls of err 'wallpaper' on the floor of my womb.

mejust just running tonthe fridge to checks the drugs... Ive got ovitrelle and gonal-f. The gonal is a pen, not sure about the other as it doesn't say on the box. Is your bureselin in a pen? My morning hit is via vials and needles.
I had panicked about needles, but once it all started it was an anti- climax for me. Hopefully it will be for you too. Do feel free to come here and grump - isn't that the point of this thread?

I imagine the rest of my cycle will get more difficult as it hasn't been to bad so far but I refuse to be scared by that thought. If it were difficult for me now I would expect the rest of it to be plain sailing. And i hope that will be true for you.

Mejust I think the menopur does burn a bit but I hadn't give it much thought so it can't have been that bad...

Life sorry for the mental picture! Maybe best to think of it as a good spring clean ready for those lovely embryos.

Has anyone else had any side effects from downregging? I've been getting terrible headaches and dizzy spells. I've just bought a massive botrle of water to see if that helps. And a pain au chocolat. That will help too, right?

Just reading all of your posts to Juicy. You ladies are so incredibly wise and lovely. This is a very special thread.

Nook - i was advised to drink loads of water to deal with headaches.. Seeing as I'm only on 1 tea or coffee a day I've been drinking green tea with pomegranate to get my water/ hot drink fix. I've been absent minded, I've slept a lot, some headaches, a little dizzyness and a short spell of nausea last week. Oh and mood swings. But Maybe I over worried before it started as I've not felt inconvenienced by any of it really.

The mental picture was ace to be honest. It is being stripped then decorated as a temporary nursery

Burn? What the fuck, what do you mean burn? Is this not torturous enough without resorting to actual torture? If you've forgotten it cannot be too bad.

Can it?