The Elderberry Pavlovas: sit on the sofa of hopefulness and make yourself a special omelette while prescribing the vomming cat to those that deserve it and observing the lunching of the tactless.

[barkingtreefrog]

It's time for some more grads!!

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months NO instadiffers, must have a special pot)

[MrsB00Mbastic]

Hi all, found you!

Barking I'm sorry she showed, it's so hard when you let down your guard and let yourself believe that this might be it only to be let down by Mother Effing Nature. No wonder you're feeling rubbish, have some more pinch goose's so she doesn't have to worry about drinking it On the bright side, at least your hsg is booked despite poor timing, and the B6 seems to be doing good things. So maybe next cycle it'll all come together with a bang for you [need a fingers crossed icon]

Kitty have you ever seen Saturday Morning Kitchen where they have the omelette making competition? For some reason this is the image I get of you and Mr Blind joining the mile-high-omelette club!

Goosey I have the occasional glass - but then my 2ww is 2 months long, and if I've not got a definite bun in the oven I'm not going teetotal for 2 months!

Had an odd day here. Shattered after a nasty night/day/night shift pattern and exams this week, feeling very emotional and tearful. Then DH had his appointment (which I made after waiting two weeks for him to do it) at GP to get sperm analysis sorted, got given his pot and told to phone hospital to find out when he could hand in his sample. And of course he hasn't phoned so now we'll have to wait until after the weekend to find out. I know it's only a short wait in the grand scheme of things but HOW BLOODY HARD is it to do one little thing to show willing? He's done nothing but whinge about me nagging him about the whole sperm thing - well this is why, because otherwise it won't get done! So now we're fighting and I'm miserable and all I want to do is comfort eat but I'm mortified at how much weight I've put on since ttc and am feeling angry at myself for letting it happen. So - BAH!



Other than that, pobbing along as usual. Day 38 in the Big Brother Womb, no developments to report!

[MrsB00Mbastic]

Er...bobbing. Not pobbing.

[Bunnygirlie]

(Sits quietly in the corner wondering if anybody can see her)

[MrsB00Mbastic]

Anyone feel a strange rabbity presence in Berry HQ tonight?

[Bunnygirlie]

(Sits in the corner and giggles after too many holiday cocktails)

[barkingtreefrog]

goose I went tee total when I started ttc. After about 14 months of sober weddings and parties for no positive result I gave up and allowed myself the very occasional small glass of wine on a special occasion but never in the 2ww 8dw. Since realising my LP means it isn't going to happen without help, and the nurse at the fc telling me the occasional glass of wine won't hurt, I've launched myself well and truly off the wagon. But then a big night of drinking in the pub for me is two glasses of wine, which I had tonight after AF the bitch pretended she wasn't coming and waited until I let myself hope and then pounced. . Normally I would nurse 1 drink all night. If AF hadn't arrived this evening I wouldn't have had a drink though.

In the pub my mate told me her and her partner of 12 years had split up, and my single mate was talking about sperm donation and not waiting any longer to find a man, so I stopped feeling so sorry for myself.

Especially as my DP kindly went and put my wheat bag in the microwave and brought it up to bed for me to help with the horrible period pains I've got right now. Life is good in lots of other ways, and a child will come along eventually one way or another. This cycle is the cycle of positivity .

[sconeoclock]

Morning all,

boom hope you have a better day today, try and forget about it for the weekend and maybe leave dh a little reminder note somewhere on Monday?

barking sorry AF got you, but like others have said perhaps your short lp was your main barrier and now you have that sorted you may get updiffed with ease!

goosey I usually have a couple of drinks when we shut shop each night. We go across the road to the pub, it gives me a clear separation between home and work which I need seeing as I live above the shop.
I only ever have 2, although last night we went, I had 3 then we decided to go out for dinner, rolling in at 11pm I forgot I had left scones in the oven!!

Finally got my cross hairs on ff today, and hopefully we DTD at the right times thus month...

[Thundercatsarego]

Morning all

scone thank goodness it was scones and not buns- otherwise we might see that as a bad omen.....

Sounds like you've done well with your timings this month.

barking I'm so pleased you went to the pub in the end. Sounds like your mates are having a bit of a tough time too- but it's great to step outside the door to get a but of perspective sometimes. I know I need slapping with the perspective sausage on many occasion.

13dpo here and I have what I might have thought in the past were symptoms but I have learnt the hard way that they will doubtless amount to nothing. Af due tomorrow or Monday. Trying not to get any hopes up whatsoever and start moving mentally onto the next cycle.

boom, remember pob? That has brought a whole different set of images to mind of what you're up to..,
Sorry that DH is being a damned fool though.

[Bunnygirlie]

Boom - why are our men so useless?!?!? My DH has had two failed attempts at the jizz test so I am hoping third time lucky, but has he booked himself in??? Has he f*ck! It's really REALLY annoyed me! Doctor says he should abstain for 5-10 days before test so I said after holiday would be good (we are away with friends in a small apartment so I won't be up for DTD) because any other time I'll want to be DTD!!! Grrrrrr

[Thundercatsarego]

Bloody men.

[GooseyD]

Hi Thunder - aha! - for once I've logged on when there is someone else in Berry HQ, I was beginning to think I smelt or something!

[GooseyD]

Just don't talk to me about useless DPs! I don't know why I don't feel more irritated with Mr Goose right now, given his catalogue of not getting round to it. The worst was leaving booking his initial jizz test for MONTHS as I had so many tests to get through - but then of course he called up and they told him there was a two month wait to get an appointment so basically that meant we were waiting for just that, and it was right over the Christmas holidays when I'd been hoping to get all the first raft of tests well out of the way and a consultant apt in in 2012.

[Thundercatsarego]

I'm here goosey. Want a ?

[GooseyD]

Ah lovely, just what I need.

[happylass]

Morning Berries. Sorry AF got you Barking but good news on the increased LP and booking the HSG. Yey for the crosshairs Scone.
Boo to all the DH/DPs who are dragging their feet on the jizz test front. Have to say Mr Happy (who is usually a lazy arse at getting anything done) came up trumps on that front. Took himself off to the GP back in December without me even mentioning it (and when we'd only been trying 4 months!) and has proceeded to brag ever since about his apparently 'above average' swimmers
Due to OV sometime today but DP is 400 miles away in bloody Glasgow humph. Plan to jump him as soon as he gets in tonight though . Just hope it's not too late!
Looking to be a lovely day here so off for some shopping and lunch with my mum. Have a good day all.

[GooseyD]

I'm also AF due Mon or Tues. Get awful PMT so I'm just waiting for the grumps to hit!

[GooseyD]

Waves at Happy - enjoy the shopping trip! Sun keeps peeking out here to tantalise us but then disappearing into grey cloud.

[Thundercatsarego]

Oh the grumps hit me about a week ago! Poor DH has nhs his work cut out keeping the thundercats household sweet. If he ends up needing to go for a jizz test then he will be equally as crap as the others (not happy's star pupil!) so I dread the day!

Enjoy shopping and lunch happy, sounds lovely!

[GooseyD]

Thunder I thought they just sent all men involved in TTC couples to have a test in case. How long after the mc have you been trying?

Thanks for asking re wedding plans - they have actually ground to a halt with the Clomid coming up. We've told people it's likely to be next summer and looked at one venue, but that's it! But actually I think it would be good to shift my focus a bit, as constantly thinking about timing and what-ifs and bothering Dr Google for ultimately inconclusive information isn't necessarily doing me any good!

Barking, Thunder, Scone and Boom thanks for completing my alcohol consumption survey! In general I do have a drink or several when I feel like it! But I wonder whether I should when taking Clomid... oh no, I feel another Dr Google session coming on.

Kitty are you back yet? How was the flight?
Have you got any advice re Clomid? Do you know what it's meant to do to your cycle and when you should dtd? Also whether you should cut out alcohol?

Barking, you are so right about perspective. I think - hope! - I'm just coming out of quite a self absorbed phase and realising that other people have quite a lot of sh*t to deal with too. Is your friend that just split up the same one you mentioned whose partner wouldn't talk about when/if wanted kids?

[happylass]

Goose wedding planning definitely helps in taking your mind off TTC. I now spend my time Googling wedding dresses and decor instead of EWCM and LP length! Not sure what's going to happen if I don't get upduffed in next few months tho. Much as I don't want to I guess we're gonna have to not TTC for a little while to avoid possibly clashing baby with wedding.

[Thundercatsarego]

goose mmc was in Nov but I found out just after I'd developed hypothyroidism (prob triggered by pg and doubtless linked to mc in my mind), and so wrong blood levels are likely to be the main barrier at the moment.

I think it's a great idea to immerse yourself in wedding stuff even if it's not going to happen imminently. I don't know anything about clomid but I do know that dr google is a scaremongering troublemaker.

[barkingtreefrog]

I've been on Dr Google this morning to see if a 10 day LP would be long enough if I can manage that again. Inconclusive. Some say no, some say maybe, some say yes. All say 12 days plus is best. So taking the vit b6 religiously this month and keeping up the positivity. I don't think my negative stance is useful whether it's justified or not!!

goose yes, same friend. So not a complete shock, but they had been trying counselling etc so wasn't expecting it.

Happy I think it's definitely good to have something else to Google/ obsess over! I'm getting into planning our trip to California this summer .
A friend of my brother's got married at 8 months pregnant. She looked absolutely stunning and the wedding was amazing. Don't stop trying for too long!!

[Thundercatsarego]

happy why dont you stop actively trying but don't actually use any contraception etc. it will give your heads a bit of a break and take the pressure right off and you know that can be a very good thing

Good to see the positivity back barking

[Bunnygirlie]

Bit early for more cocktails, might wait till tonight! Guess that answers the do i drink in the 2ww question for you goose, AF due weds/thurs here!

Weather here is a bit pants so quite annoyed! Guess I will be returning to the uk pasty and fat!

[Frogcatcher]

Just popping in to say hi on the new thread! Sorry AF got you barking I was getting all excited there when catching up.

Sorry to report that sometimes the menfolk don't get much better when you're diffed. Mr Frog still being a bit of an arse - we went to cricket in London on Thurs & he got absolutely smashed & I had to get him home. Not fun when I'd been drinking Becks Blue all day (my new best friend - actually tastes ok for alcohol-free beer). He has apologised & tried to make it up to me but his head is still not right. I think we have DTD once since I found out I was diffed so something is wrong . We had a hotel break yesterday with four poster bed & everything but both ate so much on the 7 course tasting menu that we went straight to sleep in food comas.

Oh & I used to drink in the 2WW & had definitely had wine when I got diffed. . When AF came though it was usually cause for considerable amounts of wine & nicking one of DP's menthol fags.