The Elderberry Pavlovas: sit on the sofa of hopefulness and make yourself a special omelette while prescribing the vomming cat to those that deserve it and observing the lunching of the tactless.

[barkingtreefrog]

It's time for some more grads!!

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months NO instadiffers, must have a special pot)

Oops my bus came- posted too soon-

Aquarius- ttc no 1- 13/14 mths - no hint of a bfp yet- suspected endo - awaiting referral to fc and /or dogs trust

Hey Tally I hope you found the ferret? My brothers got lovely ferrets, I hadn't realised how sweet they could be before he got them.

Ah Boom sorry to hear re tiff with DH over acupuncture. Also, I completely understand the strange way hearing DH is all clear can effect you even though you know its really a cause to celebrate. Overall I was just hugely relieved we weren't dealing with even more problems (and that there would be no questions of whether we would go ahead if needed donor sperm) but there was a sneaking insecurity in there too. On the acupuncture front, are you taking Chinese herbs too?

Does anyone know a really good acupuncturist in London? I went for a session yesterday but I'm not sure I would go back and wondered whether to try another place that had been recommended for fertility. Unbelievably he did the old line "maybe if don't think, you pregnant!" - I think he was trying to tell me not to be so stressed as it doesn't help which is actually probably a valid point but his English was a bit stretched!

Hey Kitty - how did your friend react? Was she OK? After my tearoom meltdown with my friend a while back I've gone back to making sure I keep it together with my friends with kids - as I hate to think they are reading on eggshells with me, and decided it doesn't help me feel better anyway. Better by far to chew a Berries ear off! Having said that I'm sure she understands, and there should be no damage done letting it out with your friends, it might actually help to have it out in the open with her. Do you know if they were long TTCing?

Boodle if you're lurking, big hugs, I hope you're feeling better.

Hi Aquarius!

Bunny - 33, Just started cycle 13, awaiting DHs jizz test, FX then referral to FC. Heading into DTD week!
Boom - 31, ttc just over a year, long cycles (40-80days), awaiting jizz test results, need hycosy if AF ever shows up, back at gynae clinic to discuss results 21 June.
Happylass - 35. Cycle 10. AF due 2nd June-ish though maybe later due to late OV this month. Had initial blood tests with GP.
barkingtreefrog - 33, cycle 18, had (disastrous) HSG, dildo scan & next FC appointment 19th June.
blindkitty - 33, ttc 2 years, had blood tests, Hsg, sa (all clear except morphology slightly low). Had 4 rounds of clomid. Iui prob starting in aug
Gillster - 39, cycle 15, had HSG last week, tubes clear but awaiting appoinment to have an endometrial polyp removed (hurry up!!!) Still DTD though and anticipate a busy week ahead in this respect. smile
GooseyD - 38, 2 years TTC (following 2 years not tta), just postponed taking Clomid for a month though have prescription as I'm not very well 'mentally adjusted' smile at the moment, on waiting list for ivf
Tallyra, 33, TTC for about 3yrs. 3 mmc, with hg. Appt with fc next week to see what they have to offer test-wise.
Aquarius - ttc no 1- 13/14 mths - no hint of a bfp yet- suspected endo - awaiting referral to fc and /or dogs trust

Well, CD50 has arrived here and no sign of AF! Pimped just in case but of course BFN. Now getting bored of this pointless cycle

Been for acupuncture this morning, DH didn't so much as whisper anything as I left so he must have got the message that I'm going and that's that! She seemed a bit nonplussed that my period still hadn't arrived but did some pretty hardcore electro-needling that put my leg into spasm, hopefully that'll wake AF up! goosey I'm not taking herbs, the acupuncturist recommended Maca I think but I've given up with supplements for now; I feel like maybe I went overboard with them early on and did more harm than good!

Nothing further to report. Housework day - meh.

Tally did you find your ferret?

hi guys, thanks for your concern. the ferret came home by himself, just like he has the last 2 nights as well. at least we know he understands he's got it made. trouble is, it means locking the others into one hutch and leaving the other open for him. we have no idea how he's doing it though, or when, as we check them before bed each night. and we have so far spent nearly 450 quid on the sick one. Bloody pets!

goosey she was great thankfully! She'd got pregnant on her second cycle!

Well guys I clearly lied about not having any more meltdowns...
First meltdown (gym toilets) when gym instructor announced she was having twins
Second meltdown (work toilets) when called fc nurse for a sympathetic ear only to have her talk down to me

Fortunately, no one saw me! Wondering if the clomid is having an effect on my mood this month as not usually such a head case! I'm due af but I'm not usually pre-menstrual although dh never needs to know as I'm sure I've used it as an excuse for being a witch before

tally glad your ferret came home. We do love our babies! X

sending hugs to you kitty. how did she talk down to you? surely she realises people on their books are delicate emotionally??

aquarius 'oops my bus came' is that a euphemism

tally I take your £450 and raise it by several 1000, one of our kitty's got hit by car a few years ago and due to wrong levels of insurance cost us a packet!!! But we would have done anything to make her better!

kitty I did read that clomid can affect moods, gawd help me and my colleagues if I end up on it, I am moody enough already!

Ladies, I have a conundrum, DHs colleague is unable to make the conference he is going to so he asked me to go to help. It means working over a weekend and long days but does mean we might get a few bonus shags in at the end of my fertile period, do I go or not?!?

Ha hahaaa haha
Not a euphemism bunny but that made me giggle... what about all this ferret talk- surely there's a euphemism in there somewhere??

Yeah bunny go on the conference - does it mean free food / drink /hotel too??

Kitty if its any consolation I've been crazy moody this week & I'm not even on clomid- just in 2ww- and announcing Twins - ffs - I'd have either had a break down or walked off in a huff and thought evil thoughts about her (yes I know I sound like a 13 yr old- I'm that spotty right now I prob look like one too)

Evening Berries. Glad the ferret has been located Tally!!
Bunny if its still shag week I would say 100% yes to doing the conference! Otherwise for me it would depend on where and how hard I'd have to work - that's my criteria for deciding whether to accompany DP on work trips or not!
Quick question - do you all use jacuzzis, saunas etc during the 2ww? Got a spa day on tomorrow and not sure what to do for the best. Dr Google is giving conflicting advice

Aw kitty have some chocolate

LoL yes My ferret escaped sounds well dodge too

Well happy it's days 16-19 so just at the edge of shag week I guess. aquarius the hotel looks like a bit cheap and cheerful but I will get paid double time on the weekend which would be nice!

Probably seeing my friend this Friday, my friend who just had baby 4! Not sure how I'm going to feel, a 10 day old baby and me may not mix well at present!

boom cross posted! Hugs for the mood! I feel kind of ok at the mo, think its coz on I'm on the CLoL prior to DTD week. I'm sure I'll get stressed and emotional next week if things don't go my way.

happy sorry cross post! I don't know about the spa I'm afraid, but I hope you can go because it sounds lovely!

bunny I guess I'm on the CLoL as well. Permanent fixture!

What's the CLOL? Chaise long of something or other?

What am I on if I'm in the 2ww -is there a sofa of irrationality, mood swings and unnecessary chocolate snacking?

You're on the CLOL Aquarius! Chaise longue of limbo!

(And watch out for the dog, she rolled in something earlier and still pongs a bit. I'm immune by now )

haha, yes I'm always aware that ferrets are quite good for creating innuendo.

Morning all

Dog just woke me up by jumping on my full bladder to demand breakfast. Ooof. Beginning to see the merit of ferrets rather than fatty pooches!

tally and boom well I phoned her as I'd got in my head that she was going to be this lovely kind person who'd offer me some sympathy but she just got all defensive as she thought I was complaining.

bunny£1000!? Eek! My cat is uninsurable, she better stay healthy! You DEFO should go with dh btw

happy read that saunas increase your core temp and can bring on mc so assuming that it can't help implanatation. How about a nice massage?

Boom I get the bladder jump every morning by our cat and she shakes drool in my face she's especially hating mn atm as she wants feeding and I'm still in bed!

kitty oh it was more than that! We were lucky we have savings but I did feel like I had to cut back on wedding costs a tad!

DH knows DTD week is coming up and I'm so worried that the pressure might get the better of him again, am scared that mojo may leave the building

I don't quite qualify to join yet (not seriously TTC until mid-August) but I AM over 30. And paranoid about all this. And confused by all the acronyms about stuff (worse than information from the Department of Education). Do I really need to do all this Maths? Can we not just DTD a lot and see what happens?

Well I've well and truly fallen off the CLoL - AF arrived this morning 10 mins before supposed to be leaving for work. Cd33- i have wonky cycles- not sure if i ovulated.

amazingly I haven't been sick (yet) nor doubled over in agony as per the last 4 months- even managed to take painkillers before the nausea set in! Still had to call in sick & am curled up in bed with a hot water bottle but so relieved not to be in unbearable toe curling agony (i have really started to fear af as a result)!

(Sorry if there's anyone reading this who's suffering and I'm here gloating about my lack of it)

Cross posts- morning pet lovers (cant get "the merits of ferrets" out of my head!) and Englishteacher. I'd say just keep shagging for now- no need to get paranoid- but if/once you've been ttc a bit longer you'll probably want more control over it which is where the Maths comes in.