Taking No Nonsense and Brooking No Argument We Get Our BFP's, with or without assistance!

[Solars]

So who's next in line for that BFP???

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

I don't think it matters if you have it hot or cold Geek or what fat it is, as I think the protein levels are similar no matter what. As far as the UHT goes, I wouldn't know. Thou I would guess it would always be better to drink fresh milk.

Cups not long at all. I'm bricking it

[Solars]

Geek not sure about uht, you'd have to read the label for protein content, fat doesn't matter either as still has same protein content I think. We were told not too hot as the protein strands coagulate esp if boiling, I think that's what she said. I'm not heating mine but drinking when it gets to room temp.

You'll be fine Maybe I think you youngsters have a much better chance than I do.

[BeedlesPineNeedles]

Are you stabbing to DR as well maybe ? I feel I've had a rather easy start to IVF with the nasal spray for downregging (and obviously the complete lack of side-effects which I'm very thankful for). I am getting a bit scared at the idea of sticking a needle into myself next week though, so I totally understand.

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Solars, I will have one of that, you are young too

Beedle, yes I'm stabbing all the way. I'm not scared of the injections, I'm scared of how I will feel if it doesn't work not that I over think things

[ScarlettInSpace]

Thanks everyone x
I think the test thing is that age old dilemma of wanting to know but not wanting the bubble of hope to be burst?

cups I love your optimism how are you doing?

Good luck with all the jabbing brookers! Trust me it becomes so normal it will worry you lol. I?m brooking so hard that I took all the nasty DR side effects for the team last year so you will all sail through x

geek Plan B is go again. We get 3 funded go?s and the clinic have no objection to going back to back. Plan C kicks in after those 3 go?s and is a shot at mild IVF [I?m secretly stockpiling excess drugs from every treatment so that will cost me as little as possible]. If all that fails then Plan F kicks in, which is basically start smoking again, drink to excess regularly and go on holiday 3 times a year until I die

cups well done for making that call, even if it doesn?t help this month at least you know you?ve got your points across. Do you think that fact you kicked off before and got put through a bit early is why they are being twunty about actually getting you started?

I just checked the stash of sticks, 5 x IC, 2 x Clearblue [not the digi?s], 1 x used FRER still in the box I must?ve forgotten to replace it? Well that helps actually, the FRER has been burning a hole in my head. Although knowing theres 5 x 10miu sticks up there does make think there?s one for every day next week

Re the milk debate, I got my Acu to look into this as I HATE milk, apparently it needs to be full fat to get all the goodness, but it just needs to be full fat dairy. So FF Yoghurt, Ice Cream etc all counts, and you can make it into shakes, hot chocolates, I made [decaf] lattes with it too?

solars last time did you do SP or LP?

beedle & maybe it is scary but honestly you will be fine, and wonder a little what all the fuss is about ? I used to make a big palarva every evening, laying it all out on the table, being every so precise etc, now I just nip upstairs, mix & fill the syringe standing up, jab, and then back downstairs in under 5 minutes, I'm such a junkie

[ControlGeek]

scarlett wow that's a plan and a half! But Plan F will never be needed. You are a Brooker, and a Brooker always gets her Baby

I was curious about the milk thing because I know from my A levels that heat denatures protein and I didn't know if that took away the benefit of having the protein. Perhaps maybe could advise?

My take on the testing is I would absolutely kill for someone to invent a home test for EPF (Early Pregnancy Factor). I would actually prefer to know 4 days after ov whether fertilisation had taken place so that I knew whether there was any point getting my hopes up towards the end of the 12 days. It would also give me peace of mind to know that sperm was meeting egg.

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Geek heats does denature protein, but it is still a protein IYSWIM? Cooked chicken is still a great source of protein. Another good one I have been told is edamame beans. Ooh, and avocado. I was also told full fat yoghurt.

Scarlett I'm loving your plan. Oh wont get to plan f. Well, maybe when they're 18 and have left home . The injecting doesn fuss me at all bi was always injecting trough my PhD. It's just become very real. Almost ha a pain attack lat night. I think it's the fact that it really is starting now and that there will be a definitive answer at the end of it. At the moment, I know I'm deffo going to get AF every month so there has been no 'am I aren't I' going on, and I've had that little bubble of hope that IVF will fix it. My goodness me I'm a loon. I think I need to make a cuppa

[ScarlettInSpace]

maybe I have those kind if mini melt downs all the time, have a with your [tea]

[ScarlettInSpace]

Or in fact

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

thanks Scarlett much needed

[ScarlettInSpace]

Good

Well my face is all dry & blotchy today brookers which is fairly normal a week before AF so not holding out much hope...

Have a boring weekend of housework ahead just had a lovely nap on the sofa with the pugdog though hope you're all out having more fun than me!

[Solars]

Maybe I had a panic attack just before starting our second round, it's the anticipation of it all and the hopes you have riding on it, all normal, but once you get going you will be fine, lovely. Only 10 days 'till downregging right?

Scarlett I was on LP last time so this is all new to me, but glad it's not such a long process this time. As they say you really don't know unless you test, I have high hopes for you.

Geek I would that EPF test it would save so many days of uncertainty. Hope you're doing ok.

I am exhausted, was in again this morning for a blood and scan and will be in again tomorrow for another blood test. Still got half of my milk portion to go yet for today not looking forward to that I have also been snoozing on the sofa this afternoon.

[ScarlettInSpace]

solars you will find SP so much quicker, it flies by! Much less stressful and intense...

[BlindKitty]

solars how come you've got to drink milk? Sorry missed a few days!

scarlett lol at plan f! You won't get that far!

Well guys, don't 'think' I've ov'd yet so didn't make dh join the mile high club! Rubbish being back gone. Just waiting for my friend to wake up now so I can collect my cat!! I'm pining for her like mad!!'

[cartoontrickster]

scarlett do you have a pug?!

[ScarlettInSpace]

I've got a Jug; half Pug half Jack Russell but now I can't call him puppydog anymore [he's 1.5 yrs old now] I call him pugdog

He is toooootally adorable and spoiled to bits and I don't care what anyone says about baby substitutes he is mine

kitty glad you didn't miss Ov at 35,000 feet! Any interesting letters waiting for you?

[cartoontrickster]

oh my god! oh my god! how did I not know this, I love pugs and all pug crosses. I've been trying to convince dh that we should get one but he thinks their ugly . he wants some kind of wolf/ husky type thing.

[cartoontrickster]

what did you decide about testing scarlett?
solars how are you feeling, rested I hope.
I think geek is on something with the early pregnancy factor test!
well the 5wk make has come round a lot quicker this time thank god. I have turned in to a complete animal with my wind though and am also completely knackered. still in bed! was supposed to get up and go to the gym!

[ScarlettInSpace]

Google jug puppies, I defy anyone to say they are ugly!

[cartoontrickster]

he agrees their cute. but reckons small dogs are risky cos he might sit on It . really I think he should just watch where he's putting he's big bum!

[ScarlettInSpace]

face are you on fb? I've got loads of pics of him on there that might help you persuade him

[ScarlettInSpace]

Cos my pugdog is half JRT he's got bags of character too...

[cartoontrickster]

ah no I left facebook a while ago. shame I miss out seeing all the brooker dogs and babies. yes both make me equally happy!

[ScarlettInSpace]

When I had a break from MN a whole ago I left the brookers group and deleted most people too it felt a bit like suddenly loads of people got diffed and as thd brookers graduated there were new people from ante on there who I didnt know too...

[cartoontrickster]

it all gets a bit much doesn't it and I'm gunna say it sometimes you can't be happy for people we're all human.
I'm currently putting off getting my hair done, my fringe is awful. I have a full fringe so takes a lot of up keep. trouble is I've known my hairdresser for yrs we worked together, had nights out together etc and she's always come to the house to do my hair since I left 5yrs ago. babies always comes in to the conversation there's always someone we know whose pregnant/ just had one. her bf also has a little boy from a previous relationship. so far I've never said anything to her. if she asks I just say yes one day soon hopefully. last time I saw her I was 12wks pregnant but knew something was wrong so I didn't tell her. thing is I'm sick of lying. I'm not sure how many times I can fob her off and pretend I'm not that bothered. I might have to find a new hair dresser.