Taking No Nonsense and Brooking No Argument We Get Our BFP's, with or without assistance!

[Solars]

So who's next in line for that BFP???

[BlindKitty]

new home

[BlindKitty]

Uh oh the thread is getting full!!!!

[BlindKitty]

keep I've no chance! anyway I secretly love them all telling me what a great cook I am

[keepitgoing]

Huh?! Make him cook for his own friends!! Insists on full English, indeed... Wtaf?

[BlindKitty]

keep the last time I called I burst into tears so giving them a wide birth atm. Not really sure whether I can skip it. Despite the poor success rates, given dh's mild sperm problems, it is probably the best option. Wish I did know my options but I usually can't remember my own name when I see the fc, never mind remember to ask anything useful lol!

munx I'm not going to glasto as I stupidly have up my ticket (trying to be the saintly ttc-er). I was going to ask the brokers to brook for rain because I'm a jealous witch and don't want anyone else to have fun bit then I thought cups might just kill me so I won't. Oh and I'd never get away with bacon sarnies! Dh insists on full Englishes when the boys are round!

geek I'm so genuinely sorry that ivf hasn't worked this time , you totally deserved a bfp. Really probably is a numbers game though xxx

[Munxx]

Thanks Boo just tantrums and teething! We are going through a particularly tough time as both DC are at a testing stage. But we are OK.

[EverythingIsTicketyBoo]

Hope everything is ok Munxx

[Munxx]

Just popping in with some extra hard brooking

Geek I am sorry about the BFN but agree with the others, with such a fab plan you can't fail! I hope you are OK, it must be very tough. I think you are utterly amazing.

Maybe good luck with the rest of the drugs, I must confess to not fully understanding all the terms and I can't begin to know how you feel but I hope that you are OK too, big hugs.

Beedle if you are lurking, much love to you too.

Cups and kitty good luck with getting things started, and I hope that Glastonbury is fab and that DH appreciates the bacon sarnies!

Boo so pleased K is better, sorry I couldn't be of use it was a hectic day and I came to your thread late. Things here a bit fraught......

I have forgotten people I am sure.... solars and sweetie if you are still here big hellos and hope you're doing well. solars have you a scan soon?

Right, DH has taken DC out so I really must get on with the cleaning. Boo!

[BlindKitty]

So hungover, wish I didn't have to cook a house full of dh's mates breakfast.. damn the lions test!

[keepitgoing]

kitty when's the last time you rang to complain? Are they making you do iui before ivf? Or could you choose to skip it?

[BlindKitty]

cups so jealous! Wish I'd just kept my ticket now and we could have met up . My friend is working too, gone today! Such a long time to go camping for!

[EverythingIsTicketyBoo]

Cups I am totally about glasto. I have always wanted to go and Mumford are my favourite band at the mo

Kitty don't worry about letting your hair down, you have to sometimes!

Maybe sorry you're having a hard time with the drugs hope you start to feel better soon right before the morning sickness kicks in

K is just about all better now, feeding really well and back to her smiley self :):)

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Oh Kitty that's so frustrating. I really wouldn't worry about letting your hair down. Brooking hard for that appointment letter to come through soon.

Cups that sounds amazing! You're going to have an amazing time! I'm impressed with your no drinking for such a long time! I only stopped when I started treatment! Hae ways been a healthy eater, but am struggling to get food down as have no appetite!

Thanks Solars. I'm just annoyed with he whole process. There are so many what ifs! Still, each day as it comes

[NoCupcakesOrCocktails]

As ever I am in awe of ControlGeeks incredible planning I'm really sorry it was a bfn in the end. I hope MrG is doing ok. Your clinic sounds so helpful, I think at mine you have to wait 2 months to speak to anyone if its a bfn and then start the whole process of requesting every month again. Its interesting to hear that it's much less expensive to have treatment abroad. We would struggle to fund a private ICSI cycle here.

Maybe I hope your feeling better today, it must be so hard trying to think positive all the time especially when battling so many side effects. Not long to go now. Fantastic news about the job, what is it doing?

Kitty the waiting is absolutely the worst, I'm brooking that IUI happens soon. Don't feel bad about falling off the wagon, it's good to blow off a bit of steam

Solars I love being called a party girl even though I'm anything but compared to most of my friends! It makes me feel cool

Sparks any sign of Twinks?

Boo how is K doing? I hope she is better

I'm working at glasto as part of the recycling crew. A friend of ours (who works with DH) has organised it for the past few years and has asked us every year if we would like to do it. We have always said no due to ttc however this time we have said yes as we can't keep putting our lives on hold. I'm a bit worried that it won't be the best starting point for IVF but its a bit late to back out now! We are both still not drinking (it's been 4 months since I last tasted wine ) and trying to eat really healthy. We should be able to keep the healthy eating up at glasto as its such a hippy fest. I'm mainly worried about starting the cycle a bit tired.

[BlindKitty]

maybe I was told 4 months in feb now I'm being told 'possibly' sept! I've actually got so pi**ed off with it all that I've been on a bit of a bender this month. I've been drinking and smoking tonight . Next month I'll get back on the abstinence wagon!

keep yup live in brum, bring it on! X

[Solars]

Oh Geek big hugs for you.

Little that would be really nice :)

Maybe it's very natural to have good days and bad days throughout all this, hugs to you too and hope you feel better soon, not long to go.

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Geek the whole of that post was meant for you

Hope your film is good x

[ControlGeek]

maybe do solars and mrg have something going on that I should worry about?

We have just been for a lovely meal at frankie & benny's and are just going in to watch superman xx

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Oh Solars you are doing so well. I'm in total admiration of your stoicism and positivity. That's great that you have a plan of action. I know a lot of people to abroad for IVF treatment, and great that your consultant can see you over there!

Have you and MrG got anything planned to take your minds off things?x

[ControlGeek]

Got longer to wait until we can go into the film than I thought, so just got time for a quick post.

It was bfn as expected at the appointment. The nurse was fantastic and answered all of our questions really thoroughly. Our next step is to review the cycle with the consultant, so we will hear from the clinic in a couple of weeks with the date for that.

As it stands, my eggs are definitely an issue, but the nurse thinks it would still be worth having our second nhs go with my own eggs. As much as anything, that is because the waiting list here in the midlands for donor eggs currently stands at four years!!! Before doing the next cycle, though, I will get my immunes tested privately either at my clinic or at the midlands fertility clinic, so that we have as much info going into the next cycle as possible. I don't know yet if my consultant will still want to remove my fibroid before the next cycle, I'll be guided by him on that at the review.

If the next cycle fails, we will have rin out of nhs options so anything then would be self-funded privately. We talked at length about donor egg cycles with the nurse. My clinic recommonds their private patients who go down the de route to go abroad to spain, where my consultant also works. The costs they have quoted are incredibly reasonable, and much, much lower than I was expecting them to be. There is only a very short waiting list for that due to the high profile recruitment drives for donors in Spain.

If that didn't work, as the cost is much lower than we thought it would be, MrG and I would be able to afford a donor egg & donor sperm cycle a couple of years after that.

MrG's sperm really wasn't that great this time round - the numbers were ok, 10 million per ml, but only 1% morphology and grade a a/b for motility (v low numbers with movement, and what movement there was was really pretty poor. The nurse did stress that sperm analyses were tricky things as things can change on a daily basis, however each test we've had done seems to come back worse than the previous one. MrG is going to keep on with his vits and hgw in case they are doing benefit to the dna and chromosomes.

Feeling ok with everything right now, feel like we have a strong plan and one way or another by the time I'm 40 (ish). MrG is struggling a bit, but I think yhat's necause he was hopeful right til the last whereas I had already come to terms with this cycle not working.

maybe so sorry you are feeling like crap right now. It will get better, lovely, honestly it will xxx

[TheLittleFriend]

Solars I'm in Herts if you ever fancy a squidge of a brooking baby

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

I really hope so Solars though I'm feeling decidedly negative about all this today!

[Solars]

Well done on the new job Maybe. That must be exciting and then you're going to have to tell them you want to go on maternity leave not long after you start!!

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Ooh, and yes, I'm drinking plenty. Found some lovely cordials as well!

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Solars that would be lovely! I won't be in London for a bit, but I start a new job in just over a month.

The drugs really aren't agreeing with me. It's making it really hard to eat, so forcing down food is the way to go. But apparently I'm being taken out for breakfast! Let's see how protein I can get in