Taking No Nonsense and Brooking No Argument We Get Our BFP's, with or without assistance!

[Solars]

So who's next in line for that BFP???

[EverythingIsTicketyBoo]

Wow, is Birmingham like some sort of brooker central?? Apparently I can get to Birmingham in about 1.5/2 hours if I drive, dunno about trains yet.

[BlindKitty]

Maybe there's just something in the water here!!! Best just drink bottled water when you come if you ever want to get preggers lol!

[keepitgoing]

Hi beedle I'm so sorry that it was a BFN for you in the end. It's interesting actually that the progesterone (urgh to all that btw) didn't stop you bleeding. I don't know if that'll stop the mentalling in the future or make it worse. Anyway, I'm so glad that you have your next cycle booked, with a bit of time for your FCFU bfp in the meantime just in case. Having the summer off, some holidays and some time thinking of other things sounds like a plan. geek's right that it's a numbers game. Try again, brook no argument, and you'll get there.

geek I am brooking madly for your OTD today. But if it's a no, then I am just super impressed with your plan and your positivity.

sparks, d'uh. Of course the meet up with be after Twinks is born. Because that's just a little bit imminent isn't it?!?! Happy due date today! Have you tried poking the top of the bump to annoy him??

Anyway, I'm not home till late July and will be then trying to find a house. Can we look maybe at late August? I'm hoping for cuddles from Twinks, Booby and Biscuits' little one. Yummy scrummy you guys had better make sure no brooker runs off with your baby

cups wow that sounds awesome to work at glastonbury - how did you get that? What will you be doing? I've always wanted to go, but the tickets are mega pricy. I love camping, and festivals. I'm really looking forward to camping again when we get home. My sister just went camping last week at 36 weeks. I thought she was crazy, but she said a proper blow up bed is actually more comfortable in late pregnancy. Who knew.

brooking for maybe

[Solars]

Geek I'm brooking for you too this morning.

Beedle lovely to see you around. Really pleased that you have a plan and a way forward for the next cycle. Do you get a follow up after the last one before you start again in October? Do give yourself time to process the last cycle. I thought I was ok straight after our first failed cycle and it didn't hit me properly until 2 weeks later. Take care of yourself and MrB x

Cups you party girl, you! Enjoy Glastonbury it will certainly take your mind off things before you start.

Joins the grow follie, grow dance for Maybe

I would love a meet up, a London one would be great for me, but depending on dates etc could easily drive up for a midlands one!

[SweetieTime]

Geek thinking of you today

Beedle progesterone didn't stop my af arriving on my first ivf either

cup enjoy Glastonbury, I hope you have your wellies packed

Birmingham is only 2 hours ish from me too and you lovely lot are definitely worth the journey

[BlindKitty]

sparkle brum? Really? You don't live here though do you? Or am I thinking of geek? Totally up for a meet up, just say when!

cups I'm massively annoyed with myself for being so saintly (at the time when you had to pay the remainder of the glasto ticket). Had a pang of conscience and decided not to go as didn't want to fill my body with toxins pre iui. Now being told iui will be some time in sept and have to listen to all my friends excitedly going on about it!!!!

[BlindKitty]

Oh is it geek's otd???? Got everything crossed for you babs xxx

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Cups that sounds amazing!! I hope the sun comes out for you. Not long at all the wait till you start!! I hope it's much kinder to you than it has been to me

I am excited about this meet up brookers. London is always good for me too Solars as its just a normal commute! But I am very happy to come to Birmingham. I haven't been for years! and I don't think the NEC counts

Good luck for your appointment today Geek

Keep it's not long at all now till you're back!! Hurrah!

Sneeze Sparks, sneeze

Thanks for all the dancing ladies. I feel really sick today on top of the headaches and tiredness. And I don't think the fact that it is unbearable muggy outside helps!

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Kitty have you been given a date yet for your IUI? It's so hard waiting isn't it?!

[keepitgoing]

Ooh kitty are you in brum too? Fabbo!! This is gonna be an epic meet up!
solars where are you?

[Solars]

Oh Maybe you seem to be having it rough on these drugs, are you drinking plenty of water? Not long to go, this time round i stimmed for 10 days before triggering. And if you ever fancy a mini meet up in London let me know, these days I'm in London every couple of days because of the clinic.

Keep I'm just outside London in Hertfordshire

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Solars that would be lovely! I won't be in London for a bit, but I start a new job in just over a month.

The drugs really aren't agreeing with me. It's making it really hard to eat, so forcing down food is the way to go. But apparently I'm being taken out for breakfast! Let's see how protein I can get in

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Ooh, and yes, I'm drinking plenty. Found some lovely cordials as well!

[Solars]

Well done on the new job Maybe. That must be exciting and then you're going to have to tell them you want to go on maternity leave not long after you start!!

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

I really hope so Solars though I'm feeling decidedly negative about all this today!

[TheLittleFriend]

Solars I'm in Herts if you ever fancy a squidge of a brooking baby

[ControlGeek]

Got longer to wait until we can go into the film than I thought, so just got time for a quick post.

It was bfn as expected at the appointment. The nurse was fantastic and answered all of our questions really thoroughly. Our next step is to review the cycle with the consultant, so we will hear from the clinic in a couple of weeks with the date for that.

As it stands, my eggs are definitely an issue, but the nurse thinks it would still be worth having our second nhs go with my own eggs. As much as anything, that is because the waiting list here in the midlands for donor eggs currently stands at four years!!! Before doing the next cycle, though, I will get my immunes tested privately either at my clinic or at the midlands fertility clinic, so that we have as much info going into the next cycle as possible. I don't know yet if my consultant will still want to remove my fibroid before the next cycle, I'll be guided by him on that at the review.

If the next cycle fails, we will have rin out of nhs options so anything then would be self-funded privately. We talked at length about donor egg cycles with the nurse. My clinic recommonds their private patients who go down the de route to go abroad to spain, where my consultant also works. The costs they have quoted are incredibly reasonable, and much, much lower than I was expecting them to be. There is only a very short waiting list for that due to the high profile recruitment drives for donors in Spain.

If that didn't work, as the cost is much lower than we thought it would be, MrG and I would be able to afford a donor egg & donor sperm cycle a couple of years after that.

MrG's sperm really wasn't that great this time round - the numbers were ok, 10 million per ml, but only 1% morphology and grade a a/b for motility (v low numbers with movement, and what movement there was was really pretty poor. The nurse did stress that sperm analyses were tricky things as things can change on a daily basis, however each test we've had done seems to come back worse than the previous one. MrG is going to keep on with his vits and hgw in case they are doing benefit to the dna and chromosomes.

Feeling ok with everything right now, feel like we have a strong plan and one way or another by the time I'm 40 (ish). MrG is struggling a bit, but I think yhat's necause he was hopeful right til the last whereas I had already come to terms with this cycle not working.

maybe so sorry you are feeling like crap right now. It will get better, lovely, honestly it will xxx

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Oh Solars you are doing so well. I'm in total admiration of your stoicism and positivity. That's great that you have a plan of action. I know a lot of people to abroad for IVF treatment, and great that your consultant can see you over there!

Have you and MrG got anything planned to take your minds off things?x

[ControlGeek]

maybe do solars and mrg have something going on that I should worry about?

We have just been for a lovely meal at frankie & benny's and are just going in to watch superman xx

[NoMaybeAboutIt]

Geek the whole of that post was meant for you

Hope your film is good x

[Solars]

Oh Geek big hugs for you.

Little that would be really nice :)

Maybe it's very natural to have good days and bad days throughout all this, hugs to you too and hope you feel better soon, not long to go.

[BlindKitty]

maybe I was told 4 months in feb now I'm being told 'possibly' sept! I've actually got so pi**ed off with it all that I've been on a bit of a bender this month. I've been drinking and smoking tonight . Next month I'll get back on the abstinence wagon!

keep yup live in brum, bring it on! X

[NoCupcakesOrCocktails]

As ever I am in awe of ControlGeeks incredible planning I'm really sorry it was a bfn in the end. I hope MrG is doing ok. Your clinic sounds so helpful, I think at mine you have to wait 2 months to speak to anyone if its a bfn and then start the whole process of requesting every month again. Its interesting to hear that it's much less expensive to have treatment abroad. We would struggle to fund a private ICSI cycle here.

Maybe I hope your feeling better today, it must be so hard trying to think positive all the time especially when battling so many side effects. Not long to go now. Fantastic news about the job, what is it doing?

Kitty the waiting is absolutely the worst, I'm brooking that IUI happens soon. Don't feel bad about falling off the wagon, it's good to blow off a bit of steam

Solars I love being called a party girl even though I'm anything but compared to most of my friends! It makes me feel cool

Sparks any sign of Twinks?

Boo how is K doing? I hope she is better

I'm working at glasto as part of the recycling crew. A friend of ours (who works with DH) has organised it for the past few years and has asked us every year if we would like to do it. We have always said no due to ttc however this time we have said yes as we can't keep putting our lives on hold. I'm a bit worried that it won't be the best starting point for IVF but its a bit late to back out now! We are both still not drinking (it's been 4 months since I last tasted wine ) and trying to eat really healthy. We should be able to keep the healthy eating up at glasto as its such a hippy fest. I'm mainly worried about starting the cycle a bit tired.