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Solars · 15/05/2013 10:13

So who's next in line for that BFP???

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NoMaybeAboutIt · 19/06/2013 13:04

I lost my mojo for a bit Keep but I'm back on it now! Berm making lots of different breads, and I made some amazing cinnamon pecan swirls last week. I may well back today! Im making some naans to go with dinner too

NoMaybeAboutIt · 19/06/2013 13:05

Ooh, I love that book Solars! I have made quite a few from that book. But I just love Rick Grin

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NoCupcakesOrCocktails · 19/06/2013 13:21

Just popping in to see how Geek and Beedle are doing. Thinking of you both.

Maybe I have no idea how I'm going to manage to get enough protein. I'll have to eat chicken every night! I don't really like milk, does it have to be full fat? I was allergic to cows milk as a baby and I've never really liked the taste even though I can drink it now. Do you think it will still do the job if I mix it with nesquik?! I'm allergic to nuts and I hate seafood. So I'm a bit stuck, any other good foods I can eat?

I'm waiting for my brother to Skype, he really needs to talk to me apparently. I'm sure it will be a pg announcement Confused

NoCupcakesOrCocktails · 19/06/2013 13:22

Completely forgot to say yay on the follies! Grin

Solars · 19/06/2013 13:28

Cups it doesn't need to full fat, you can have it in milk shakes or even smoothies. Or try the protein powder that Keep mentioned. You can buy protein bars too. You could try lentils, humous etc. good luck with the Skype call from your bro.

Maybe I love rick too, we went to his restaurant in Padstow last year, I salivate every time I think of that meal!

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ControlGeek · 19/06/2013 14:07

cups I wasn't told to take in plenty of protein at all, but I drank a litre of milk a day because I had heard on here that it had been recommended by other clinics. I can't stand the taste of full fat or semi, so I drank skimmed with nesquik each day. I did try to have at least two litres of water/other drinks as well though.

Slowly getting back in the brooking spirit here. I know it's game over for us this cycle, but MrG and I have started talking plans which always makes me feel better.

In other news, Percy just got his first (and hopefully last) waxing.

EverythingIsTicketyBoo · 19/06/2013 14:20

Waxing Percy Shock X-0 why?????? Glad your Brooking spirit is coming back, wouldn't be the same here without you xx

Brooking for everyone here, sorry no name check, K is poorly :( waiting for a Dr appointment.

NoMaybeAboutIt · 19/06/2013 14:28

Oh Boo what's up with K? Hope you are the dr soon.

Geek so good to have you back. I annoy believe it waxed Percy Shock [watery eyes]. What plans are you making

Cups I've been drinking my milk with green and blacks hot choc in it. Nom.

Solars we went there last year too!! Amazing. I've been to his cookery school too. It was immense!!

Sparks love curry sounds like jut the sort of thing you should be trying right now....... Grin

Solars · 19/06/2013 14:57

Poor K Boo hope she gets seen to soon.

I would love to go to his cookery school Maybe

Good to hear from you Geek, it's nice that you and MrG are looking after each other. Hope the waxing has scared Percy off!

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ControlGeek · 19/06/2013 15:22

oh boo that must be very worrying. I hope she gets seen soon, and sorted out quickly.

maybe that sounds like a fantastic way to get your milk quota Grin

Our plans are currently running in the following order:

  • get ourselves over this cycle
  • pay privately to get my immunes/NK cells tested because I am convinced there is something going on that hasn't yet been identified, given how long we have been at this game with not even a sniff of a BFP
  • have our final NHS shot at ICSI (with or without removing fibriod, we are happy to be led by the consultant on this)
  • Save like fury for a single private attempt with donor eggs as I am convinced the problem mostly lies with me, despite MF being identified. I feel when they saw that, they basically stopped looking into anything further. Depending on how long this takes to save for, though, we may be looking at donor eggs & donor sperm which is a whole separate ball game that we are not yet willing to start considering.

Sorry for still being very mememe. I'll be back in the swing of it soon.

NoCupcakesOrCocktails · 19/06/2013 16:36

I love hummus so ill have that every day! I'll live off turkey/chicken,eggs, milk and hummus Smile Maybe I've never tried green and blacks, is it really good? My fave is twinning swiss hot chocolate.

Boo I really hope K is alright, brooking you get that drs appointment quickly.

Geek that sounds like a great plan, I'm brooking you don't need it though.

Well I'm going to be an Aunty again as I expected. It was of course a surprise and not planned as if that makes me feel better. I managed not to throw my iPad out of the window. Luckily it was just my brother on Skype so I didn't have to act all excited.

NoMaybeAboutIt · 19/06/2013 17:39

Oh Cups. That phrase is the worst. I was going to suggest chickpeas too. And beans of all varieties. And lentils. Are you a fan of yoghurt? Green and blacks is the best I think you can buy in a supermarket! And not too sweet.

Geek that sounds like a plan. Why are you convinced the problem lies with you? There is not always a rhyme or reason.

Solars I would thoroughly recommend it. I had an amazing time Smile

AIBU to be annoyed with MrM? He promised me before i started treatment that he would help out so much more. In th last 3 and a half weeks he has cooked dinner once and run the Hoover round. I'm so tired and the headaches are ramping up. It will not be much longer before I go on strike Grin

ControlGeek · 19/06/2013 18:11

maybe, love, have you tried giving him a little list, or sitting down with a cuppa and asking him to do x because you're feeling rough? These men of ours aren't always great at seeing that something needs doing for themselves iykwim. Sometimes they need it spelled out in black and white.

cups that sounds like a great protein plan! Sorry you had to hear that phrase though. For some reason, people seem to think that saying that makes everything so much better! (((hugs)))

I've had cycle problems from about the age of 13 or 14 maybe - one period every 6-9 months. This went on for years (until my op at age 24 to remove ovarian cyst). Even in my late teens I was convinced I would never be able to have children of my own. Then I had the cyst on my ovary (which they removed but stitched my bloody ovary into the wound). After this my cycles went to 28 days,regular as clockwork. A couple of years after that MrG and I met and rapidly decided to try for a family. At it like rabbits for a good couple of years but I was never even so much as a day late. I didn't test much in those days (if at all) and didn't track cycles other than noting down when my next one was due. If there was ever a time I could have got pg naturally, it was then, and it didn't happen.

I am now almost 37 years old and have had PCOS for 24 years and that endometrioma for goodness knows how long. Both of those things can have a huge impact on egg quality, especially when not treated for such a length of time. I now have one ovary written off, though the other appears to work ok.

Of the 8 eggs we got this time, 6 fertilised (fair enough) but all but one perished or rapidly declined by day 3. Paternal DNA doesn't tend to kick in until day 4 or so, which means that the failure of the embryos to develop further was the fault of the eggs rather than the sperm. The one remaining one was apparently perfect to look at, but it is quite possible to have a perfect looking embryo with genetic issues that mean it won't develop. As the others perished so quickly I can't help but assume that this one went the same way not long after transfer.

Added to that the unknowns of why I have never even had a chemical pregnancy in all our time of trying, something is happening to prevent a pregnancy occurring even before it can reach implantation. Whether that is solely down to egg quality, or a combination of that and immune issues, or other as yet unknown, unidentified issues, I've no way of knowing. But surely I should have at least had a late period even just once?

Sorry, that tale is boring as hell to read, but I do feel good for having got it out of my system. Thank you!

NoMaybeAboutIt · 19/06/2013 18:16

Oh Geek I had no idea quite how much you'd been through. I can totally see where you are coming from. Do you har a sympathetic gynaecologist who could maybe push for some extra tests for you? Not a boring tale at all, you need I get things off your chest.

And I've tried siting him down. He makes all these promises and then doesn't keep them. And thenI I ask him he huffs and puffs and moans about it. So I just do it myself. But I seem To be having more and more days where I am just totally drained. But I will stop moaning. I have another rick stein special to finish off cooking Grin

ControlGeek · 19/06/2013 18:24

Sorry maybe I just assumed you were expecting your DH to be a mindreader like I do with MrG then get annoyed when he isn't Blush I'm really sorry he's being a grouch about pulling his weight. You really need to be able to take it easy just now and it doesn't sound like he's making that easy for you. Are Rick Stein's meals all seafood based or does he do other stuff as well? No sympathetic gynae for me. I have the really nasty evil NHS one with the secretary from hell, then I have the IVF one who couldn't actually remember me when it came to embryo transfer Angry

I did insist quite forcefully that the evil NHS one do the recurrent miscarriage tests on me though, which he eventually agreed to. They all came back negative but that's when I got my AMH result of 49.1 (way high) and so my diagnosis of PCOS, finally.

NoMaybeAboutIt · 19/06/2013 19:02

Of course, I forgot about twunt consultant. How's the GP?

No, they aren't all seafood , far from it! His latest book is about India. So there are veg, meat and fish chapters!

Solars · 19/06/2013 22:18

Oh Geek :( are you still testing? Is that why you think it's all over? Or has AF arrived? You could have a late implantation, you just don't know. I'm sorry if I'm trying to keep the hope alive but I so wanted this to work for you. I've been told a few times by my clinic that endometriosis can decrease egg quality and also cause immune issues so I think you're definitely doing the right thing getting that tested. Lots of hugs to you and MrG x

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ControlGeek · 20/06/2013 07:54

maybe oooh I didn't know that! I'm not quite sure why I had it in my mind that he was a fish guy. MrG loves a good curry recipe even though he ends up having to leave chilli out of everything for me I hope MrM gave you some help in the end last night.

solars no, I can't afford to keep wasting money on FRER BFNs and after this month I don't think I'll ever trust any other brand. I still use CBFM sticks to monitor my oestrogen though, and it's been rock bottom for some days so def not pg. No AF yet, but it could be the pessaries, or the sheer number of follicles that I have that may have ruptured naturally a day or two later than official EC. I just want to get it over with now. I have a friend coming over on tuesday and I don't want to be miserable and hurting as we've planned a wonderful girlie day of knitting and chilling out.

NoMaybeAboutIt · 20/06/2013 08:07

Oh Geek I really am feeling for you. Are you still taking the pessaries? Mr Stein is a fish guy, his seafood restaurant is amazing. But his books are full of all sorts of recipes. I'd thoroughly recommend his India boom if you like curries. They definitely not all hot, just nicely spiced.

Hope you are doing ok Beedle

We are very quite on here of late. We haven't had any fresh blood for a while!

NoMaybeAboutIt · 20/06/2013 08:25

Quiet even. And I'm meant to be a writer Blush

ControlGeek · 20/06/2013 08:54

That's ok then maybe, I'm not going completely barking! I was beginning to wonder... Still taking the pessaries, but not going to bother with tonight's or tomorrow morning's. Hopefully can get AF over with at the weekend then. Not sure how long it'll take to arrive once I stop taking them, to be honest. It's been quite nice having a slightly longer LP for once. I've actually made it to day 14 probably for the first time in my life :)

Yes, very quiet in here, we could do with some new blood I think.

keepitgoing · 20/06/2013 09:39

I thought we've been quite chatty of late!! But agree that new brookers would be good. Maybe we're a bit too cliquey now for new people to want to join...?

Oh geek I'm so sorry you're having such a tough time. What a long journey you've had. I think you could be right about the egg quality - I've also heard that the egg carries things up to day 3, then the spermies take over. I think you're right to have a plan, and make sure that you push the consultants for their opinions on what they think went wrong, as you had a good number of eggs and fertilisation, and the lining etc looked good. I agree with you that never having had a CP or anything in all those years is odd. I never had one in two years either, though I didn't test early most months so maybe I'd never have known. I guess there are just a million and one things that could be the reason, and maybe none of them would be if they were the only one, but put them all together and... I think that you and mrGeek are just great (by the way I hope things are going ok with his kids, I was just thinking of all that the other day). I hope that we can meet up (with Baby Twinkle too) soon after I get back. That'd be awesome. It's weird how I feel I know you guys so well, and not being on the Facebook group I don't have a clue of your real names or how you look. Wonder if I've got good pictures in my head :)

maybe you're stimming!! Woo hoo!! I hope you start to feel better soon. BTW I only stimmed for 8 days, which I think is the minimum i've heard of, and I don't think they can tell until they scan you. I think you need to have a bit of a strop with mrM to be honest. Some people get quite bloated on stimms, and then you'll have EC and be sore, and then ET and have to rest up. He needs to buck up big time. Plus, when you're pg you may feel like crap. Maybe you spoil him by being such a good chef... But that doesn't matter, he needs to step up. Tell him he has to cook every other day, and just don't do it. If he doesn't cook he can sort a takeaway...

cups oh my goodness a second pregnant sibling/SIL. You're being very calm about it, at least on here. Are things any better with your sister and your mum? I am brooking like crazy that you'll be knocked up by the IVF, and then you can all be pregnant together. In the meantime, big hugs as it just makes it all so much harder when you see how easily other people have it, doesn't it?

NoMaybeAboutIt · 20/06/2013 09:46

Keep I am indeed stimming! Though I feel worse today than yesterday. But it's all in the name of something good Smile. How are you feeling? I did speak to him yesterday, but he is the one who threw a strop Hmm.

I am so jealous of the midland brookers meet up. I may have to get my arse on a train Grin

Geek have you spoken to your clinic? I'm guessing they may want you to do another test before stopping the meds completely.

How are you doing Cups? When do you start your down regging?

keepitgoing · 20/06/2013 10:05

I feel pretty good thanks maybe!! Not glowing though, that's for sure! Yes, you should def come and meet us too.

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