Taking No Nonsense and Brooking No Argument We Get Our BFP's, with or without assistance!

[Solars]

So who's next in line for that BFP???

Hi everyone,

I've missed so much! I've had a busy few days. Massive congratulations to our newest PUPO Geek sounds like you have got a top notch emby on board.

I can't wait for all the inevitable BFPs starting with Solars it's going to be an exciting few weeks around here.

AF hasn't arrived yet, I'm on cd 28 I'm expecting her any day now. I'll be hiding in the corner until she arrives and I find out if I've been accepted or not.

Cups so good to see you. Don't hide, pull up a pew and make yourself comfy . Brooking like mad that you are accepted.

Solars that makes toal sense. As does thinking the worst in order to minimise the disappointment. But I am simply brooking no argument that this has worked. Why do you think it hasn't?

Hi guys! Just popping in for the goss! namely geek's bfp when is the et? Hope you've all had a fab sun. I stupidly didn't take my sports bra off before sunbathing and now have epic fail tan lines! X

Evening all, been dipping in and out, lovely to see so many PUPO's and a few Potential PUPO's on the cards too, am brooking for you all fr

From afar

Update from ScarlettLand, I've fairly given up I'm sorry to say brookers, I can't cope with feeling like such a failure on a regular basis so Ive tried to findsomething else to focus on sooooooo I've started yoga and Pilates, and I've taken up running again, just done another detox so I'm 7lbs down which is fab

I'm not even thinking about anymore treatment until I've lost 2 stone, I'm sick off putting myself through it with the only result being another half stone gained . When I get to that point I'll reassess where my heads at hopefully not still up my ass lol

Anyways, just thought I'd say hi and I'll still dip in from time to time, so you haven't Totally got rid of me but to be honest being away from here has helped me hugely to disengage, big brooking love xxx

scarlett!! lovely to hear from you. Good on you for the healthy living and the weight loss. Take all the time you need, and we'll all be here when/if you decide to come back

Hi kitty how's things with you? Do you have your IUI appointment letter yet?

cups I am brooking like anything that you'll get accepted this month. I can't remember if you're going to be long or short protocol?

solars i think you are very brave to wait for that phone call, to be honest. I can't tell you how much I want it to be positive for you. Just two days now. This is the worst bit. I tried to think that all the people here who 'knew' things had failed, or those convinced they had preggo symptoms. People are so often wrong, and we don't really know our bodies that well. So whatever you feel or don't feel, you just can't tell.

maybe you have the whole extra palaver of defrosting sperm, you poor thing. But you are young and have such a good chance here. Are you both happy to go ahead with the donor if the sperm don't defrost well? Did they give you a feeling of the % that they normally do defrost ok?

geek I am laughing at the thought of you taking in your FMU without having tested ten times already! Are you testing the trigger out every day still? Has it gone yet? Give us the scientific update please!

Scarlett so good to see you lovely. Well done on the weight loss. I've got majorly back into my running too. I think it's the only thing keeping me sane at the moment! It would be lovely for you to keep popping in until you're ready to think about another cycle x

Kitty epic fail but it is nice to have a reference so you can see how good the tan is

Keep we weren't given a percentage. According to the urologist, he took 'enough sperm forarleast one cycle' and we were so chuffed. Then we saw my consultant and she went on about donors. So I don't know who to go with. At that point, MrM wasn't sure what to do, butk think now he wishes we had a back up for this cycle as he can see what I'm going through. They have said they can freeze my eggs, but apparently they don't defrost very well. It's terrible, as I think this is going to fail before we even get to ET.

Geek are you really not going to haves dip when the day comes?!

How you doing Solars? And Beedle?

Scarlett so lovely to see you and great news on the weight loss. You take all the time in the world to do what you feel is right for you, big brooking love to you too x

You are so right Keep but the nutty part of me seems to have taken residence at the moment. Big melt down with DH this morning. I couldn't sleep last night until about 3 in the morning. DH went and told his mum when we are testing yesterday which freaked me out. I don't mind them knowing we are going through treatment but with my family I haven't been specific about details in terms of dates etc. I should have said something last night but instead went to bed fuming, so this morning it all came out. I just can't be dealing with other people's reaction when I need to be dealing with my own.

Oh Maybe I'm sure it will be ok, you're a brooker and it will all work out. Not long til the 18th now.

Kitty oops about the tan lines, sounds like another holiday in the sun will sort that out!

How are the other 2 PUPO's doing?

Oh Solars you poor thing. I orally know where you're coming from. MrM's parents decided to tell his who,e family we are having IVF. Totally against our wishes. He won't pull them up on it. But we are now not telling them any dates. They don't even know I've started jabbing. It's too much dealing with others expectations. I'm sure you'll feel better now it's all out in the open x

scarlett take all the time you need, and well done on the health kick. I'll definitely be needing one if this doesn't work.

solars we have told my parents (well mum, but I reckon she told my dad) that the IVF was going ahead but actually told them that we wouldn't tell them specific dates. Mum asked me the other day if we had told my brother and family but I said we hadn't and didn't really feel the need to tell them either. If it works we'll probably tell them. I'm fairly certain that MrB hasn't told his parents anything! But his boss does know a fair bit even down to which day we had EC but he's a middle-aged man so I'm assuming he knows nothing about timings and therefore won't ask either of us any difficult questions.

Still feeling rather crampy here, and my muscles in my legs and bum ache. I have no idea why, we didn't do anything remotely strenuous over the weekend. I was going to phone the clinic today and ask them about teh crampyness, but I left the number at home and don't fancy negotiating my way through the hospital switchboard. So I'll call them tomorrow.

I'm not reading anything into these symptoms, by the way, but I am feeling rather fed up with them. Though I should be grateful that I had such an easy time DRing and stimming.

I'm glad it is out in the open but I still don't think he really gets it. I try and put in a context he can understand that usually means a golfing analogy with dh but even then they never engage brain before mouth!! I hope your dh will be able to deal with all their questions then without involving you. By the way I'm still in bed, tiredness from lack of sleep has subsided so I guess I should get ready and do a bit of work today!!

boo I know, isn't that an amazing coincidence? Also, my gran died on a full moon so every full moon I talk to her, and I've taken her brooch to every appointment, including EC and ET. So even if I don't get a BFP on that day I will know she's with me

beedle that's so much easier, just having to ring them with the result. At least it keeps the whole process a lot more private that way. Good luck for Sunday/the day before OTD (and of course every day in between and after).

maybe I hadn't realised it had been done at another clinic. I am sure everything will be perfect. They must do this freezing/defrosting process so much. If there was a high risk of it going wrong they would surely have either taken two samples, or insisted you have a backup plan, no? As for me having a couple of dips, it all depends on what the previous days are showing. If I do get my BFP beforehand, then one dip of the OTD FMU will probably satisfy me that they are not going to give me a different answer. Otherwise, I may have to divide my FMU into two pots

solars (((hugs))) this one is your time, lovely. I understand how hard this must be for you, and the waiting is a killer, but you have done everything in your power to make this a success. Brooking like crazy for your BFP. Sorry about your meltdown with MrS, these men of ours just don't get it half the time. Oh, and yes, I do honestly need to take my FMU into the clinic

cups!!! lovely to see you! Brooking for your ironic BFP/clinic acceptance like you wouldn't believe.

kitty oops about the tan lines! I had ET yesterday so am now 25 hours PUPO not that I am counting Little Eglantine should be at the morula stage about now, so won't be implanting for another 2-3 days.

It's so good to see that you are still around. I'm loving your pamper plan. You of all people seriously need some 'you' time. You've been through so much, lovely. Hopefully this will get you and MrS back on track and give you both space to concentrate on yourselves and each other for a bit. Everything else can wait. Do keep popping back to let us know how you are getting on, I love a good weightloss story :)

keep yes, quite how they expect me not to test at home I don't know! I will definitely be dipping a stick or ten before screwing the lid on. Sorry, I've been a bit remiss with my science experiment results, haven't I? Yes, I'm still testing out the trigger and think I may possibly get another faint line tomorrow but today's was much fainter than the previous day's, and took a good two or three minutes to become visible. I am veeeeeery disappointed in the Morrisons Own test sticks. Their lines come up later than the ICs, fainter than the ICs and it's only about 24 hours later when everything's dried out that they show slightly darker than the ICs. They have a lot more dye passing across, which I think makes it harder to see the line for a good couple of minutes.

Well my latest (and only) symptom is that I am sitting here feeling sick and in agony. Way TMI but I have piles for the first time in my life I could cry, I really could. I had no idea they could hurt so much. MrG is back at work today and has been pressed into running a mercy mission to Boots in his lunch hour for me, since I can barely even make it up and down stairs right now.

Oh geek you poor thing. I've also never had piles, I never realised they hurt all the time I thought it was just when you did a poo (blushing at my lack of knowledge, not at the use of the word poo :o )

I hope MrGeek's mercy mission is a sucess and you feel better soon

I hate to say it ladies but after your BFP's you may want to get used to carrying little pots of pee in your handbag, your mw will want one at every appointment.

Geek so sorry you have a Percy, they're not pleasant at all, I think I had farmer Giles' whole family at one point really really painful :( get well soon.

Poor geek, is it from the treatment?

maybe don't feel pressured into using donor sperm if you're not both comfortable with it. Better to wait. From a brief search it seems most of the sperm will survive the thaw usually, and you don't need many. Then, freezing eggs, its true they don't thaw as well as embies, but its still quite good odds. It's most likely the second doc is just trying to cover all eventualities. Do you not have someone lined up then? I'd say just try not to think about it, as you've done all you can. But am a head in sand type around ivf... X

Oh Geek you poor thing. I have never had piles, so I have no idea how awful it must be. I hope MrG is back very soon with bum-soothing supplies.

Keep I think you are right, the second doc was very much a 'blunt, cover all eventualities' type. The nurses were far more positive though, so I suppose we just wait and see. We managed to get 2 vials, so it wasn't terrible! We have both decided that for the second round, MrM will have another procedure, and we will have back-up for that cycle. And the sperm they did get were apparently good quality, so fingers crossed. There just seem to be so many hurdles at which you can fall. But we are so determined to get a baby that we will do whatever it takes. MrM has really come round to the donor idea. I think it helps that one of his best friends has 3 adopted children, and he can see how much he loves them

Lol at the thought that beedlemight be embarrassed of the word poo after going throught ivf (grin) I think only some kinds hurt all the time. Mine keeps popping out and swelling which is why it hurts (blush)

Boo carrying pots of pee around I can cope with, but I really need Percy to fuck the fuck off to the far side off fuck or whatever the classic mn phrase is!

Keep I think it's either from using the pessaries, or my desperate bid to get rid off the constipation. My money's on the latter :(

Hope all the other brookers are having a good day :)

Xpost maybe so pleased you and mrm have agreed on the way forward. I think it helps to see first hand other families that aren't necessarily 100% blood relatikns dping well though. Just because you have a backup doesn't mean you will have to use it, it's more like a mental safety net for your own sanity. Brooking that any futute cycles are purely because ypu want extra siblings :)

Oh no Geek that does not sound like fun, lets hope MrG gets the meds ASAP! You poor thing after everything you've been through already with the ivf!

Maybe I'm sure all will go to plan and it will be a few years to come for your second round anyway. It sounds like a common thing having frozen sperm I remember my clinic asking the question if our sample was going to be fresh or frozen when we went in for our egg collection.

I have done quite a bit of work this morning surprisingly, off to the shops and then I think I'll have a listen to my relaxation cd this afternoon.

Just popping in to offer sympathies to Geek. You need Sudocrem for your little friend. Works v well and no risk to Englebert. I'm not pile obsessed, honest.

Brooking for Solars and Beedle too.

Also cups, hope you get an ironic BFP and. if not, an acceptance for this cycle.

Maybe, I'm brooking for you too and Mr m's sperm!

Scarlett, take care and take your time.

DS is over 5 months now and eating solid food, can you believe it! I still lurk here all the time to hear your news.

hi . just thought you may all like to know I've had a scan today all looks good at 8+2. I'm now lying down with am intralipid drip in my arm.
I've missed loads here (again).
can't wait for the bfps to be confirmed. what's the testing schedule? theres so much excitment going on here I'm so happy that things are moving forward for so many of you.
scarlett its lovely to see you popping in.
cups any news? how's work, are you all settled now?
how are all the pupo's?
sorry I've only skimmed through

geek ooh didn't know you'd had et. How soon can you poas with ivf? Or is that a silly question?!

solars tbh I'd prob be a little annoyed if dh told his family even though its fine for me to tell anyone I please. However, remember we all have each other to talk to, our dh's only have us so might need to talk to someone else from time to time

scarlett you sound like your on a roll! You go girl!!! Do you think you'll try another iui when you're ready? Wondering whether to disengage too, given my iui prob won't happen for ages

keep still waiting. I get a call apparently. Called the nurse and she said it would prob be more like sept when I start ffs!!! How you keeping?

cartoon hey you! So pleased you're doing well!

Excellent news cartoon
Do the meds continue until 12 weeks or is it even longer?

Testing schedule is:
solars tomorrow
me Thursday 20th (or earlier if I'm feeling brave)
geek 21st/22nd every day :o

Great scan news Face how exciting!

Gen really 5 months? where has the time gone?

Kitty I don't mind DH telling people about the ivf I was just concerned he was telling them all the details of dates and putting pressure on us to also have to answer to them when we get the news. September is only 3 months to go. But I can understand how frustrating waiting can be, hang on in there!

How are you doing Beedle? has the cramping stopped?

Are you doing ok Geek?

Maybe did your AF turn up?

Well I had some mild cramping yesterday afternoon and evening, felt like AF was on its way. Nothing this morning, I'm not sure if its a good sign or not. Also found out one of the girls I was cycling with at the clinic got a bfn yesterday, she started bleeding yesterday and they told her to come in for a blood test, she's devastated :(

Oh Solars that's so sad. This is such a difficult process. I am brooking so hard for you tomorrow. How are you feeling?

I am hoping to count today as CD1. How ironic that I haven't been this late for over 2 years

How are you feeling Beedle?

How is your little friend Geek

Great news Face