TRC 10+ months. Part 15...

[MuddyWellyNelly]

New thread for the lovely 10+ers. 14 was awesome so another like that please!

Thanks for the reassuring words, buzz and drizz. My first cycle after mc was very normal - ov just one day late, so the next cycle being squiffy has thrown me a bit.

I'm glad to hear everything is moving in the right direction buzz.

I'm not looking forward to tomorrow either. This four day weekend has been brilliant.

Buzz- 3+ on the digi is very promising.

Mad -good luck with this cycle, no reason why you might not get that bfp.

Euro - I know the worry about being broken is awful. But it is still early days post mc and things will settle down.

Critter - hope all is well with you and had a fab time in Florida was it?

Gin - not long until that scan. Hope your sickness has started to wain.

I have had a few very miserable days with non stop vomiting and burning oesophagus and throat followed by a gaviscon chaser. But little less so today, hooray.

Morning all! What a miz Tuesday morning in London! I too can't be bothered with work today...

buzzy I'm really pleased to hear that the spotting has stopped and that you feel a little calmer. 3+ weeks eh? I'm convinced you will see 2 sacs at the scan... Is Barry able to go with you to the scan?

euro hope you had a fab long weekend. It's so bloody annoying when our bodies start playing silly buggers with us, esp when I know you're keen to get on with mild ivf. Lots of ewcm sounds like a good sign and that ov must be near.

sar so sorry to hear about all the sickness. Sounds hideous. Do go to the GPs and get something for it - you really don't have to suffer like this. Have you lost weight? The best way to control my nausea is eating, so I'm turning into a right porker.

mad not long til those hols, hang on in there!

Hurrah for squifiness lemons. Hope you had a good weekend.

rabbits any sign of that appointment? I think I'd prob slot in a private cycle, as I just couldn't bear the waiting. You really have had to wait a ridiculous amount of time.

nelly I'm loving your FB pics. Soooo cute. I hope you had an ace time.

mrsd hope you are feeling a little better.

critter hope you had a great time in Florida. Do you have an early scan soon?

Waves and luffs to all.

sar not wanting to speak too soon, but yesterday I only felt properly sick at bedtime and apart from my normal first thing retch, I don't feel too bad today. I'm hoping this is the start of the ms winding down. It did get worse though and I couldn't have got through it without the tablets.

Can't put into words how scared I am about Saturday's scan. Please may the dream not be all over. Am trying to keep busy and not think about it

sar did't your gp give you anything for the sickness, I have buccastem you can if you like

Buzzy - I'm glad the spotting has settled down. I am guessing there will be two sacs.

Sar - Sorry about the all day nausea, that sounds quite bleak. Did your gp give you anything?

Gin - I hope thats the end of your nausea. I also have everything crossed for your scan.

Euro - My cycles after m/c were unpredictable for a bit afterwards. Everything did eventually settle down, I completely understand the fear of being broken. Can you call your clinic with concerns about your cycle returning to normal?

Critter - I hope Florida is treating you well. My in-laws are heading there for a month.

Mad - I hope things fall into place this cycle and it works for you.

I have been a bad 10 plusser lately because I have been buried in work. Big waves to everyone I have missed.

AFM - I had my first appointment today with the nurse (apparently I am 8 wk +5?). Mr. Grouch and I decided to pay for an ultrasound between weeks 11 and 13 to have a nuchal scan really to see the heartbeat because waiting until week 21 for an u/s is long. So really nothing very exciting happening, just more blood work and such.

Mad - I realized what I wrote was unclear: by "it" I just mean that you get the non-medically assisted bfp.

sweet I think the best thing for us is to see what happens at the IVF scans. It's jus odd because my first cycle post-mc was pretty much normal. I was really surprised about that as I had expected that one to be screwy! It's also stressing me, because ovulating by yourself is a pre-requisite for natural IVF!

gin and sar sorry to hear you are both suffering! I hope you start to feel better soon.

Euro - I think your plan is quite sensible. I understood that your concern was being able to ovulate for natural IVF. I can only say that I really hope your body finishes readjusting so your cycle can settle down. I know/understand just how stressful crazy unpredictable cycles can be. So deep relaxing breath and a handhold until your body sorts itself out. I'm sure you will get back to normal.

euro it is a bit odd that this cycle would be different and the last one normal

gin big hand hold for Saturday, everything will be fine

sweet she must man you are 8 weeks and 5 days :) we shall see on Friday, I just hope that there is something to see

How are you doing today, buzz?

sweet I think buzz is right: 8+5 is preggo speak for 8 weeks and 5 days. :)

euro I am ok, bored at work don't know what I want to eat so I am eating crap and feel like it, Kayla is driving me mad, she won't stop meowing at me

Just a quick hello. I'm a bit down after a fun filled couple of weeks (sorry for those who haven't kept up via FB, I will happily PM but too scared to out myself on here). I've been in a weird place otherwise. Sick of TTC, yet desperate for a solution. I better get my follow up appointment booked actually.

Huge positive no-sickness/good scan vibes for Gin and Sar, and hoping for continued good bloods and no worries for Buzzy and Critter.

Lemon how are you post IUI?

Rabbit my lovely how are you? And MrsD?

Mad I'm not thinking about this cycle as last time I had a 6 week cycle post ivf so no idea when I might ovulate. I probably am not any more . When you wrote the other week about probably needing a hysterectomy at some point it really stopped me in my tracks. What a rough time you have had.

Going to go to bed now and try to have an early night. But I'm reading a fairly gripping book so it depends how much murder, torture and politics I can handle! In other news we've booked both a summer and a Christmas holiday. Hurrah!!

Luffs to everyone else x

Hello lovely ladies,

nelly I can imagine you must feel utterly sick of this process. It's just exhausting and you've been through a hell of a lot - two cycles in less than six months. I know you must feel like you've had it up to here - it's not just hard on your body but exhausting in terms of the emotional rollercoaster of hope and despair. I'm so sorry my love.

euro I'm sorry about the screwy cycle - other ladies who've had miscarriages seem to have had similar experiences, which is reassuring, but it really is a pain when you're relying on your body to settle down again and work 'au naturel' for the natural IVF. I can imagine how incredibly stressful that would be. You've had a lot of knocks, but I really hope that things will look up soon. Will you get results back from the smear? That sounded bloody painful, by the way, and you were so stoic about the whole business. Gawd what a bloody nightmare. I really hope you can catch a break, as they say here!

buzzy I am holding out hope for twins for you too. So glad the spotting has stopped, that sounded really scary, even though I've heard up to a quarter of pregnant women have it. Incidentally, I am on 3 200mg progesterone capsules a day, all up the front door.

sar your morning sickness sounds horrific. Poor you. I so hope it stops soon - it sounds absolutely awful. You must be coming up to 12 weeks soon... are you 11 weeks now? I do hope that you start to feel better - seems awfully unfair that pregnancy is giving you such a rotten time after the rough ride you've already had.

sweet I would have forked out for the 12 week scan too. I still can't believe they would otherwise make you wait so long - 21 weeks is crackers! Hope you're feeling ok and not too sick.

lemon hope your final pre-IVF 2ww is going ok. I've got everything crossed for your ironic pre-in vitro diff.

madness like nelly I was about your hysterectomy remark a few posts back. It's so unfair and I so wish that you didn't have to go through all this extra anti-endo shite on top of the IVF. I know that necessity is the mother of toughness, but I wish you didn't have to deal with this and be tough. I wish it could be easier for you. Oh mad, keep faith. You have a plan and you will be a mum, I really believe that 100%. You will, you will, you will. But I wish you didn't have to suffer through all this.

mrsd how are you doing lovely? I hope you are ok and that the horrible infection has started to go away. I think about you a lot and what a shit time of things you've had. I have high hopes for your autumn round and a summer 2014 little den, and I so hope that this summer is full of good distractions in the meantime. Can you go for a massage or do something lovely for yourself? You've had such a big knock.

pout argh at your MIL's comment. People can be so incredibly self-absorbed and hurtful. What a nasty thing to say.

gin I started to feel a little sick yesterday (although NOTHING like what you and sar have described) and like you I addressed the situation by scarfing down food. An egg mcmuffin hit the spot. Fingers crossed for your Saturday scan - wowee that has flown by. I will be thinking of you and sending good karma your way - I bet you are desperate to get some reassurance and see the little blighter.

rabbit You did make me laugh with your 'sperm in a dish'. A hot toddy recipe, you say? Sounds interesting, yum. I missed the drama thread about marriage being for kids, how ridiculous. Also, totally agree about Kate and Zita looking stupid on that thread. Serves them jolly well right for going after the cash for doing it. I thought people raised some really interesting points, not least our lovely den and euro, and the person who said that it'd be good to have learnt about the Taking Charge of Your Fertility info while in school, but they are going about it in a very stupid way. And what about talking to men about fertility stuff too? Why is it just aimed at women? I also really, really hate the 'shaming' aspect of the campaign and that horrible photoshopped pic of Garraway.

zippy I too am Scottish pale and was probably the whitest person within a 40 mile radius in Florida. We're talking day glo on the beach. Like a beluga whale.

Apologies for radio silence. I had an absolutely blissful weekend away - I had a wonderful time with MrC, saw dolphins, swam in the sea and got masses of sleep. Spoilt rotten. It was so nice to get away, as work has been really busy. My lovely closest colleague has handed in her notice so I'm covering her workload as well until we find a replacement. My nice but ineffectual boss is driving me crazy and I would probably be thinking about moving on if it weren't for the 12 weeks of paid maternity leave (which is non-existent at many US employers - 6-8 weeks seems to be the norm here). I am going to try to just focus on the bits of the job that I do enjoy. Huge tail feather blowdries to all of you beautiful ladies, and an extra fluff to those feeling sad, anxious or frightened.

Critter you're back! Your weekend in Florida sounds brilliant. Sorry about the work shyte but in a few months, you'll be out of there for a while, so you might as well hang on in there for the maternity leave at this point.

buzzy How are you doing? Has the spotting stayed away?

nelly Sorry that you are having a slump. I think that it is often the case after a period of distraction and fun stuff. It's a case of coming back to reality with a bit of a bump.

madness I didn't realise that a hysterectomy could be on the cards at some point for you. I agree with others that it is so much to compute for you and how massively unfair it is.

critter your break away sounded so lovely. 8 weeks maternity leave sounds harsh. Will you go back to work after your 12 weeks? Egg McMuffins sound like a good solution I love those things and have to admit to buying an egg poacher for the microwave so I can make my own at home. Nothing quite beats that nuked egg taste!!

gin I am excited for you about your scan. I really hope that it gives you a bit of reassurance and helps you enjoy things a bit more. Exciting times!

euro I can't believe that you seem to have another confusing cycle this month. I'm rooting for it to settle down before your IVF cycle.

lemons How are you getting on? Thinking of you on your 2ww.

rabbits I avoided the marriage and kids thread though it sounds like I missed a corker.

sweet 21 weeks for a scan????? Crikey.

zippy at Scottish pale. I think that ought to be our new description for negative pee sticks.

Missing the Bank Holiday weekend already. It was lovely doing nothing except bathing the dogs in the paddling pool in the garden (though had a pang of the barrens when we bought the pool and kept thinking that we ought to be doing that for our kids not the dogs). They are all lovely and fragrant now though MrP managed to spray yellow printer ink all over Big Dog He is now speckled yellow on his white bits including a massive splodge on the top of his head. I am braced to spend the next week finding yellow blobs over everything in the dining room! Wally!

Afternoon. Quick cheeky between appointments post from me.

Welcome back critter so nice to hear you had a relaxing time in Florida. I do miss the sunshine and swimming in the sea (Scottish beaches lovely for walking on but i am not hardy enough to dive on in).

gin i have every faith this will go well for you on Saturday. will be thinking of you.

Sar please go to gp if you haven't already. you shouldn't need to suffer so much .

nelly aren't anti climaxes awful? I tend to crash after good things too. i am tempted to risk the facetube friendship just to see your photos .

pout i am struggling to picture the printer ink debacle. how did he manage that? I just have idiot proof cartridges for my printer....

Thanks all for the concern. I know several ladies with similar endorsing to mine who are going down the hysterectomy route. I am ok with it if it means an end to infections and pain and repeated laps but would love to have just the one child first. After that it wouldn't really matter to me.

Ok. back to work. big waves to everyone and I'll try to catch up tonight.

Im pleased t to hear you had a lovely weekend critter, how long do you have to wait for a scan? I'd heard that the US was mean with maternity leave. I'm entitled to 14 months on 70% pay, I think that's quite generous but I'm beginning to doubt if i will ever get to take advantage of it. When I have an awful day at work I daydream about being on maternity leave.

Gin and sar, I'm so sorry you've had a tough time with sickness. Not long until the magic 12 weeks though. Here's hoping for a glowing second semester.

Pout, is it July for the fet?

Mad, I want to send you a big hug. Keep thoughts of hysterectomies out of mind just now. You are going to crack this!

Euro, I keep meaning to ask if your dh got a clean bill of health on his prostate. I'm sorry ovulation is messing you about. I have no idea where I'm at in this first post ivf cycle. I won't be surprised if I haven't ovulated either.

I was totally floored by a pregnancy announcement, I have no idea why because it was from a colleague that I'm not even close to. He was so excited telling us all he was going to be a dad. He's only 28 and has been married 6 months, and met his wife after we started ttc. Oh the unfairness! He's a lovely guy though and it was nice to see how happy he was but it still hurt. I was also shocked that he was telling us because she's only 10 ish weeks and they haven't had the first scan yet, it was so strange thinking that some people have such blissful ignorance that things might go wrong.

I'm not really in the tent anymore, I'm fed up with it all but I'm not a wailing mess. I've accepted I'm not going to be pregnant before the autumn and in all likelihood not by Xmas. I've started nagging dh about booking somewhere exotic to spend Xmas, the thought of spending it with family brings me out in a cold sweat. On that note, I'm trying to prepare myself for my A* announcement, I know it's going to happen soon. I will be on here screaming and weeping when it does happen.

Whatever infection I had seems (touch wood) to have cleared itself up. I really should get round to booking my follow up consultation but I can't be bothered to hear the dr tell me what I already know.

mad It makes me sad to think that you have to have so much treatment for your endo and that a final op would be the lesser of two evils. I feel even more mad that the universe can't give you an instadiff so you can get on and manage your condition. Life can be so bloody unfair.
I too was incredulous at the printer ink debacle and can't fathom how the hell it happened. Apparently he had to "shake the cartridge" I'm studiously ignoring the mainly white curtains that are dangerously close to the printer because if he has ruined these I will go batshit. Is it wrong to hope that the dog was an effective ink breaker?!!

mrsd I understand not being excited by the prospect of a follow up appointment. At mine I was told how medication could be tweaked next time. All I could think was how that PCT doesn't offer a "next time" so what a pointless assessment.
Sorry about the announcement. I too don't understand why he would be announcing it to all and sundry after only 10 weeks. I suppose you are right in that some people just don't know that sometimes a BFP is only half the story & there is a long way to go. That's another thing that long term TTC robs you of, that blissful innocence.
I feel for you waiting for an A announcement. It is all so crap. I guess that is next for us too. A sibling to my A announcement.

den a holiday somewhere lovely and hot sounds wonderful - having just had one myself, I can thoroughly recommend it as a mood-lifter. I am so glad the infection seems to be clearing up. What a pain on top of everything else. 14 months at 70% sounds like heaven - when you get there you will so have earned that time, with all the crap you've been through to reach that point. I do have high hopes for an autumn diff for you - I just think they buggered up your last round and it annoys me. Next time they'll have learnt from their mistakes.

pout yellow printer ink, good heavens, how is that even possible? I would go crazy if printer ink got on our curtains too. Sounds lovely having your sweet smelling pooches in the paddling pool over the weekend - I bet a lot of shaking of droplets went on!

mad You're going to get your baby before you get to that stage . I wish you didn't have to go through pain every month - adds insult to injury. I don't know if this is worth it, but might it be worth seeing a Dr Tubes style character a la sar? I know your endo is a lot more extensive and I remember you explaining why the clinics would be much of a muchness if you went for a second opinion - I suppose I'm just grasping at straws, it's just so unfair.

euro hope the shooting was fun over the weekend. When are you coming back to see me, eh? I will hang in there for the maternity leave - I would love to have more time, and I might be able to get another month or two unpaid, but think I'll probably have to go back to work after that as we'll need the dosh. It all feels a long way off and pretty unreal.

My first scan is on Friday morning, when I'll be 6 + 2. buzzy must be close behind me. Is it weird that I'm almost more excited for buzzy's scan? Mine doesn't feel real, whereas I'm hopeful for a 'twofer' for buzz with two little buzzsters in there. Waves to rabbit, zippy, sweet, ramona, lemon, sar, gin, and nelly. And everyone else I've stupidly missed.

Sorry I've been awol lovelies. Had the first round of my root canal yesterday, I was feeling a bit worse for wear afterwards. So I am not really busy with the WWs, except that the second round of treatment cannot be done if I am diffed, which is planned for period due date... So we'll see.

Thinking of you all. Keeping stuff crossed for you on Friday.

And at mrpout and his exploits with printer ink.

evening ladies

mrsd That is a great mat payout, and you will get to use it :) sorry about the announcement

nelly sorry you are in such a slump, its hard to see the wood for the trees, big hugs

critter glad you had a fab time with Mr C, very exciting about your scan on Friday, you should hopefully see a heartbeat, I'll be 5+4 so its just to see that something is there, sorry about work

lemon how is the 2ww going

pout the spotting has stopped, I seem to swing from thinking it is ok to absolute despair.

I've had a busy day, work is hectic, short of staff, safe guarding patients then problems with Shehata, I'm now in two minds if I should just not go back at all to see him, I just don't know what to do anymore, I feel like a druggie trying to find my next fix

buzz if you feel you have lost confidence in Shehata, then try someone else. Gorgy seems to be the main alternative in London. I had one consultation with him and he was fine, if not exactly warm.

Critter I am so excited about your scan! I don't know when I will next be out. Nothing is planned for now, but these things can arise at short notice.

drizz you're sounding very brave about the hardcoredentistry.

pout your doggy tales make me laugh. :)

mad I'm sorry that fertility ishoos mean you cannot get on and deal with the endo once and for all.

mrsd sorry you were floored by the pg announcement. That sounds like a great maternity package. And you will be taking advantage of it very soon!

Mr euro hasn't quite got a clean bill of health. His blood and urine tests were clear, but they want to scan him again to look at the fluid retention issue that came up when he was scanned before (he retained slightly more fluid than normal after he peed). Of course, he has done nothing about sorting that out. It's not like we are under any time pressure if there is some sort of issue down there...

I've just got my biopsy results letter. Mild abnormality confirmed. Given the option of treating now or review in 6 months. I will obviously go for the latter and crack on with IVF in the meantime.

Oh, and I think I am starting to see a temp rise, so that would confirm late ov, just like the first cycle post-mc. So I appear to be oving from one side at least. I hope the other side plays ball for IVF next month!

Euro that's good news that whatever is up, its mild and you can crack on. Sorry to hear about recalcitrant husband. I have the same problem with mine. Grr.

Lemon a root canal! Bloody hell! Take it easy, that sounds no fun at all.

Buzz I agree with euro, if you aren't happy with your doctor, maybe try a second set of fresh eyes? How are you feeling?

euro glad to hear that your results are mild and that you can crack on with treatment. I am currently undergoing testing in another lady area and it feels like the icing on the cake doesn't it? Women's bodies are so complicated.

lemon root canal sounds ouchy, two parts! Hope it isn't too sore.

buzzy how are things going? I am very much thinking it is twins.

gin I am thinking of you and your scan. I can't believe it is 12 weeks already. I can understand that it must be scary but I am sure it will all be good and a very memorable and lovely day.

sar how goes the vomming? All day puking sounds really horrible and I'm not surprised your throat is burning. Have you been to the doctors?

critter sounds like you've had a very lovely time. I am pretty shocked at USA mat leave, I had no idea. I'm not exactly sure what I would get but it works out as half my salary over a year I think, averaged out. I used to sit and work all this out very carefully in my optimistic days! Actually I was thinking about the positivity thing earlier and thought about how very certain I was that I'd just get pregnant in the beginning and wrote it off as tosh!

pout bless at yellow dog. I am about to buy a sandpit for little people who are coming to stay and have already had the barrens just looking at them so get you with the pool.

nelly I really felt for you when I read your post. Come downs after lovely times are poo. I hope you are feeling a bit better today. What are your next plans?

den you WILL get your mat leave of abundance!

sweet there is no way I could wait 20 weeks for a scan so good move there.

madness thoughts of hysterectomies are strange aren't they. My cons said that would be his recommendation or that pregnancy might help things . I'd be prepared to have it done if I get my one baby so I'm with you there. BUT! We are on a very different path for now and we WILL get our wombles to do some growing first.

Well I am now in the bizarre situation of waiting for both my private and nhs appointments. It's like a race. I think I might actually be one of the only ones on this thread not to have done any AC yet. It feels very odd to be waving goodbye to natural trying even though I haven't really had my heart in it since last October. It is starting to feel very real that I won't get there without significant intervention. And not real at the same time.