The Elderberry Pavlovas who occasionally sausage wang – a fabulous thread for 30+ ladies TTC #1 (Thread 8)

[Bunnygirlie]

Newbies very welcome provided they meet the strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, must have a special pot, NO instadiffers) and bring a bouquet of sausages when they join!

[Frogcatcher]

Seconded barking I wish I had such crafty friends who could make things like that!

[Wimwom]

Could I join you? I'm a lurker (I've followed since the first thread and remember the naming, the banned berry, the bfp rush) but am embarassed I'm becoming a stalker so think I should step out the darkness!
Married, 33, ttc 15 mths, cycle 25, dh tests all ok, my thyroid slightly low but not in treatment range (which I think it should be) and first fc apt on thurs. no nhs referrals where we are so buttoning down the hatches for some expensive bills. Am hoping to be an ivf instadifer as given up on the miracle!

[SidneyBristow]

Hi Wimwom and welcome. Frustrating about the thyroid stuff isn't it! My DH & I won't qualify for NHS IVF either, should it come to that, since he has children already. Scary prospects; I'm right there with you.

Think I missed saying hi to Cate the other day. Another 38 yr old, woot!

Awesome mice barking, I wish I could do things like that but sadly my crafting skills topped out at the gluing-googly-eyes-on-a-pompom-to-make-a-funny-alien stage.

So, AF arrived bang on time, early this morning . Knew it was going to happen as I'd PIMPed 2x over the weekend and not even a whiff of a line. All this time I'd expected a neg pg test to wreck me the way it did last Oct when I was so late (but still BFN), but they didn't. It sort of broke the news gently; I didn't tell DH I was doing it so was able to cry in the shower without a big discussion. Cycle 10, very unhappy to meet you, something about being in double-digits now is jarring.

So that vaginal ultrasound I had 2 weeks ago that showed 2 mature, ready-to-pop follicles made me happy bc I could literally see for myself that my body was doing that right at least, and gave me at least 10 days of fantasies of fraternal twins, til I started cramping last Thurs. Now, I just feel like a fool. God help me if either my mother or MIL ask me about it, bc I told them both in an effort to feel closer to them and get some support, and now I just feel like I raised everyone's expectations, for nothing

Re: straw poll, both knew we wanted kids but there was never any big heart-to-heart about it or anything, but after all the bloodwork/jizz test/ultrasound I felt like I ought to say something. Now, I wish I hadn't, and when DM starts up again with her not-so-subtle "everyone has grandchildren but me" comments, I'll lose the plot.

GP appt to review fertility tests is Fri; I'm going to ask for a HSG. Has anyone else specifically asked for one? What should I say? Have never seen this dr before & I don't want to appear pushy, but better that than be fobbed off. Other than that, my only goal for this week is to get through it. I'm so tired of crying over this, but I can't turn around w/o seeing a pregnant lady/new baby, and it hurts, and I don't want to be 'that person'

[BombasticPeanut]

Aw Sidney hugs and a massive glass of wine cup of tea. So sorry, AF is such a cow. No reason to feel like a fool though, I think we all let our imaginations run riot in that 2ww. I've no experience of HSG but I did find that demanding a gynae consultants' appointment when the doc didn't want to got me seen at the hospital rather than ignored until Aug. I think as long as you know why you're asking for it and stand your ground and if all else fails sob loudly you're more likely to get it. Fx that you do.

Just got the results back from my blood test (from said consultant's appt!), apparently I have high testosterone so looks like it's PCOS. GP said to wait for consultant to review and they'll send me out an appointment if needed, seems to think it's likely I might get the metformin/clomid after all. But then it could be all change when the consultant sees the results - I get jumpy when docs say things like 'well, the results are slightly raised, but not hugely so' anyone else think this smacks of hedging their bets? The normal range is 0-1.8 and mine were 2.2, but I don't know what the treatment level is. Not at all sure how to feel - happy that a diagnosis of PCOS could move things along or devastated because I was right all along and something really isn't working properly in there... or annoyed because the idiot GP could have done a testosterone test 4 months ago and saved me a load of heartache

Hi wimwom, welcome! We have no NHS IVF here either so all hopes pinned on getting some sweeties Clomid!

[CatsCantFlyFast]

Berries, looking for your opinions. Today I am spotting, wtf is going on? to put it bluntly I think I'm 2dpo and haven't ever spotted after O before (if I get spotting its 6 or 7 or more days post O). Anyone got any ideas?

[PuppyMummy]

Hi everyone, can I join pls? Im not really new, was on Bunnies original over 30's thread. Don't post very often, tend to dip in and out (all gets a bit too depressing and obsessive!!)
Im definitely not an instadiffer (cycle 15) and am 32!

Currently on 2ww, af due on Sat but I dont care (much!!) 'Cos im on holiday!!! She will come because she always does and I dont feel remotely pregnant!! Also helped this month by the fact I have 3 bottles of duty free prosecco to keep me company this week!

Last cycle I had an HSG and got all excited cos the woman told me you are 25% more likely to concieve after one.... or not!

[Frogcatcher]

I just think the unseasonably cold weather has messed with AF all round as I have run out of all other rational explanations.
Just tried to get a drs appt but forgot about their stupid system where you have to phone at 8am on the day you want it. If you want an advance appt you have to wait about 3 weeks! Grrr!

[CharmingCats]

Right, I have caught up but can't remember everything. Welcome to the newbies and previous lurkers - good to have you with us. Duty free prosecco sounds very good too!

merk, not sure about the spotting, but seem to remember seeing another thread about spotting just after ov. Maybe there's some insight on there? How are you apart from that?

Not much ttc news here. Have started to use the cbfm and had acupuncture on Friday, too early to pimp for anything yet.
I'm supposed to be job hunting, but my heart is not in it. I hate having to look at jobs for September (teacher), when it's only April and if I diffed now, I'd arrive 5 months pg. I do not want to stay in my current role, but don't want to commit to something so far in advance while ttc. and definitely do not want to stop ttc. Grrrr. Some are nice looking jobs, too! Think I'll go to the shop and get some chocolate to help.

This is also my month of fitness. Not managed anything so far!

[CharmingCats]

P.S. I think it's a berry birthday today, but I'm not sure...boodle, is it you??

Happy Birthday to you!!!!

[happylass]

Afternoon Berries. Back to work today and its seriously interfering with my MNing! Welcome to the stalkers newbies - make yourselves at home!
Sorry to all those who are having wtf cycles. AF due on weekend and temp dropped slightly this morning so think she's on her way. Still might have a little pimp soon seen as I stocked up on ics a few weeks back

[Tallyra]

hi guys. Sorry it's all so confusing for you Merkin. Without getting your hopes up, it sounds like something might be happening but did you DTD at the right time?
However, I think after our cps last month I'm going to give up early pimping because it was just so making that I'm not sure it's good for my mental health.

On that note, my morning was bloody hard. I found out that my boss had actually been trying for 3 years, about the same as me, and eventually had IVF. She had endometriosis. That made me feel really bad as I've been secretly hating her for being pg when I wasn't.
But I also found out she went to my local nct class despite living 15 miles away in the next town. At that point I crumpled - because it would have been the group I should have been in too - and was very ashamed to start crying in front of my boss but she was so good about it. at least she's been through a similar experience and understands the problem.

But at least she loved the quilt I made despite it shrinking slightly when I washed it.

[barkingtreefrog]

Tallyra that sounds really tough . Have a big

Hello to all new/oldbies

I'm helping a mate clear and clean her house prior to putting it on the market. I don't think I have the highest standards of cleanliness, but I can't cope with her house at all! After clearing one room I asked for the Hoover and she didn't have one!!!!! Apparently it broke and she took it to the tip - but didn't see the need to replace it?!?! She has two cats, there is dust and cat hair and general grime everywhere! I drove to argos and bought a Hoover. No idea whether she'll give me any money for it but I don't care, I needed to clean!!!!

[Tallyra]

ewww. I'm also not the cleanest person but I have to Hoover the dogs twig and mud mixture off the living room floor at least once a week, and I sweep it more than that.

[Thundercatsarego]

Hi all tallyra that is one tough morning. Well done for getting through it and not running out of the door!

Come on merks, I really hope this is a good sign for you.

barking that is grim. Well done on buying the bloody Hoover!

charming, did you get chocolate? Job hunting takes up so much energy but you will be pleased if you get sonething good, ttc or not.

Now, who's got a for me?

[CharmingCats]

eww!
I can top that, though. I (along with an army of other mates) helped someone clean their home after their kids were removed by social services. It took us 5 hours to clean HALF of the kitchen. It was like an episode of 'how clean is your house?'

[CharmingCats]

ah, yes! I got chocolate and chocolate digestives. nom nom nom....

[Thundercatsarego]

I don't want to think about the stuff you scrubbed in that kitchen. Gross

I'm on about 3dpo here and there's a LOT of cm to deal with just now. That too is grim. Is it something to do with progesterone after ov or something?

[barkingtreefrog]

cats it really is horrendous. I got here this morning and have spent all day until now and we've done her bedroom, the lounge, and cleared the front garden of rubbish. I won't even start talking about the kitchen or the bathroom. The rooms we have 'done' aren't really to my standard but they're now tidy (you couldn't see the floor in either room) and at least hoovered!
A mutual friend said recently that she couldn't cope with it either, they were supposed to be staying the weekend but after one night they made excuses and left early the next morning! She's a great friend and outside of her house you'd have no idea she lived like this, but . I'm staying tonight but leaving tomorrow. I'd stay longer to help but I just can't face using the shower or sleeping more than one night on the futon covered in cat hair...

[CharmingCats]

barking, you are a better berry than me. I only lasted that half day. She kept offering us drinks etc and none of us wanted to use the crockery. The toilets were the more disgusting things you've ever seen.... Her pets had been removed before the children!!
I think it's pipbin 's birthday today - got it wrong, sorry! Happy birthday!!

[Frogcatcher]

Ugh I'm not the cleanest person around but not that bad! Anyway our cleaner started this week

Feel terrible as one of poor furry babies has developed an overgrown tooth & I didn't notice. It took the SS to tell me & even then I dismissed him at first! DP is taking her to the vet tmrw but not looking fwd to the bill as have a feeling feline dentistry is not cheap!

[CharmingCats]

Seems the berry cats aren't doing too well ATM...think I'll keep an eye on mine. bunny, did your cat have to have the drip in the end?

[CharmingCats]

Ooh, frog, how was the cleaner? Mine is on holiday this week, so am doing my own. Poor me.

[barkingtreefrog]

The cleaner novelty hasn't worn off in our house, we came back from holiday to a clean house! And she even put clean bedding on the bed!! (I left it out just to see if she would ). It also keeps us tidy as we panic tidy every Wednesday ready for her to clean on the Thursday!

[CatsCantFlyFast]

tally poor you
thunder a cycle buddy! Yey poor you for getting me I've not had any CM since O BUT this cycle was my first ever cycle with loads of noticeable EWCM. Between that and today's spotting I am quietly hopeful there's something going on!
Re. Cleaners... The exact reason I refuse to have one is I know that I would pre-clean in a panic before they came. I would be held to ransom and it would negate the reason for a cleaner iyswim! I'm pretty 'clean' actually so what I really need is a tidier!! I'm excellent at hidying things hence spare room like a jumble sale so need somebody to just organise me (or a new house with lots of lovely storage space)

[barkingtreefrog]

I used to think that merk but the cleaner does such a good job that it's easy to keep clean and not horrendous by the following week. Most of our mess is caused by the dog and she's got 6 of her own so I don't feel self conscious of the dog hair or mucky kitchen floor as she knows the reason we got her in was to try and keep on top of it! The first clean was embarrassing though, how clean she managed to get the grouting on the tiles in the bathroom that I'd just given up on as we tore them out this week anyway!