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The Elderberry Pavlovas who occasionally sausage wang – a fabulous thread for 30+ ladies TTC #1 (Thread 8)

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Bunnygirlie · 06/04/2013 22:56

Newbies very welcome provided they meet the strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, must have a special pot, NO instadiffers) and bring a bouquet of sausages when they join!

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barkingtreefrog · 07/04/2013 22:56

Damn, cross posted - and when I was trying to be more concise as well!!

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Boodlebum · 07/04/2013 22:59

S'alright, Barking! I just hope that we both get sorted out at our appointments! My ideal appointment will go like this:

"Oh yes, your thyroid is not working properly. Your doctor is a grade A pillock for not fixing this 6 months ago. Go back to her and tell her to get it sorted or I'll come down there and kick her up the backside myself. Whilst you're here, take this clomid and progesterone and combine for instant BFP."

Likely to happen?! Grin

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CatsCantFlyFast · 07/04/2013 23:00

barking that link works and the nice are simply mega!! Wow
frog where are you in your cycle? Glad to hear the term pimping lives on in my absence... My berry claim to fame!!
boodle I know little/basically nothing however I had read that clomid is over prescribed, almost as a fob off. Can you ask loads of questions about why they think it will help with your specific issues? Do you have any diagnosed issues? Was it you waiting for DPs swimmer results a few weeks back?

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CatsCantFlyFast · 07/04/2013 23:01

boodle that wasn't intentionally negative, sorry. You're right about it helping with LP

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CatsCantFlyFast · 07/04/2013 23:06

*mice
Clearly I am back with a vengeance with multiple posts in a row filling threads at speed!

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Boodlebum · 07/04/2013 23:09

No, it's alright, Merks; Viv/Gail told a similar cautionary tale. I've sat down with DH and been through what I want from the appointment as I know I'll be a wreck on the day - if they go for Clomid, we want to know why they are prescribing it and how will it help my specific problem (the short LP) etc. I have no diagnosed issues (except the hit and miss 'no-man's land' thyroid levels). DH 2nd SA came back fine, after a slightly iffy first one. He's taking a lot more care with his health now so no reason to suspect he's got any problems.

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Frogcatcher · 07/04/2013 23:18

Oh merkin you have missed all my recent cycle trauma which I have bored everyone else with. Basically first month temping & have not had a definitive O, temps have been erratic & now AF is AWOL but have had two BFN. Cycle never been longer than 31 days before & average is 28 & today is Cd33. No idea what is happening except just want AF to turn up so can start again.

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CatsCantFlyFast · 07/04/2013 23:21

frog I was here with the start of the OPK's. have you had anything that looks like a darkish line? Even if not a positive? Have you temped? If so can I stalk your chart and give my opinion?? Remind me, had you come off the pill? Don't worry about madness, at moments in the last few weeks I have entertained the thought I am unknowingly pg (thanks bloating) despite having my period!

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barkingtreefrog · 07/04/2013 23:22

Merk It might have been me waiting impatiently for DP's SA results as we couldn't get our referral done until both results were in and we were told we had to wait for a joint appointment to discuss both our results only they then called DP and told him over the phone that his results were 'normal' a week before our appointment, leaving me stressed and assuming it was me, as well as Angry that I could have picked up my results two weeks previously if I hadn't done as I was told and waited for a joint appointment.

There are plenty of women saying that clomid is just given as a fob off, but also a significant number saying it lengthened their LP, or brought O forward in their cycle (so same overall outcome).

This is the article I want to learn from before my FC appointment!
www.inciid.org/printpage.php?cat=infertility101&id=7

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Boodlebum · 07/04/2013 23:26

Barking I found that article when DH and I were chatting the other night! Also found this, which I found quite interesting, although DH says not to bother mentioning anything that doesn't come from UK.

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Frogcatcher · 08/04/2013 07:25

If I'm not ovulating then maybe they can just give the clomid? .
merk I did get some lines on the OPKs around CD11ish onwards I think but didnt know that they were going to be it! Here is the link to my chart. I have manually discarded all the temps which were taken at wildly different times even tho FF wants to let them in & open circle others which are closer. I had a cold around CD10 for a few days which may account for the spike up there but otherwise it is just a mess! Have switched to new BBT thermometer now to get the extra decimal place.
Egg free zone?

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Thundercatsarego · 08/04/2013 07:43

barking they are amazing!! Totally in awe of your mouse-making skill. Beautiful.

I've told a small number of people about ttc But only after the mmc as I wanted to moan about how shit life was for a bit.

Ooo boodle and barking, nearly appointment time- hooray! I've got my 4 week blood test on weds too- thyroid levels. We shall see how these magic pills are getting on.

Still no af frog?!

Right better get moving. Good to see you back merk

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barkingtreefrog · 08/04/2013 07:44

Any signs of AF frog? Or another symptoms?

I would ignore this cycle as a practice run and start again with the BBT making sure it's always in the same place under your tongue as soon as you wake up without sitting up or moving more than you must, ideally setting an alarm at exactly the same time each day. Even if you can't bear to do that at weekends could you do it during the week?

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Frogcatcher · 08/04/2013 07:56

Still no AF. Bizarrely lots of CM but no more spotting since Saturday. I get the odd lower belly twinge, feel bloated a lot of the time & I think I've got v sensitive to smells but that's only cos I know it's a pg symptom. Confused I'll be pimping again later this week.
Will try harder with temping but I get up so stupidly early (5.45 alarm) when I work in another office a couple of days a week that I have no desire to wake up at that time every day! and DP would not be a happy camper

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Frogcatcher · 08/04/2013 08:01

Oh & merk I came off the pill in September as didn't answer that qn for you. Got a feeling I was never regular when I wasn't on it but never had any other known issues.

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BookTart · 08/04/2013 08:21

Interesting articles barking and boodle. It looks like I'm being checked for all that at the moment, and they won't hand over the Clomid do anything else until the results are in. I've decided that it is my uterine lining that is the problem .
Frog I can't get my head around that chart at all. I'd do what barking says and write this cycle off and try again next month. I'm going to start temping again I think, so we can all post our indecipherable charts together Smile

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barkingtreefrog · 08/04/2013 08:21

I see the problem frog, I wouldn't be prepared to do that either!

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barkingtreefrog · 08/04/2013 08:22

Is it the FC clinic checking booktart? What tests are they doing?

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Bunnygirlie · 08/04/2013 08:25

Morning all! Just popping in to say hi.

CD15 and had no signs of o but I never do! I have my day 20 blood test on Friday and hubby has jizz test next week, so I guess we'll see what those results bring!

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barkingtreefrog · 08/04/2013 08:25

Sorry, answered my own question by looking at the list...

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Tallyra · 08/04/2013 08:57

morning girls. I'm the for my usual breakfast check before I walk the dog.
Practically everyone I know knows we are ttc, and sometimes we get sympathetic questions and advice from ones that also had problems. We pretty much had to tell them because of me being in hospital each time before. I even told the girls in the office at work because I knew I'd be ill when last pg kicked in. they don't help much tho.
I'm about to go visit my boss who had her baby that was supposed to arrive a week before mine last time. I expect tears. Sad
See you later!

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haycorn · 08/04/2013 09:37

Supposed to be working, but had to pop in to say those mice are gorgeous barking! I am very impressed!

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BookTart · 08/04/2013 09:58

I hope it goes okay Tallyra, it sounds really tough

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BombasticPeanut · 08/04/2013 10:00

frog everybody knows we're trying, mainly because we'd already let them know about the pg before we MC'd (lesson learnt, will not be announcing anything until child's 16th birthday next time) so I can at least whinge to anyone and everyone who'll listen although I do get a lot of 'just relax, it'll happen when you least expect it' comments which don't annoy me at all nonono

Dear ol' Momma Nut is also aware of the mc, but is wilfully ignoring the obvious and pretending that we're not trying because of my course (which finishes in Sept) and keeps making references to 'when you decide to have kids'. I know I should just tell her outright but can't bear to disappoint her - silly right?

In other news, I'm waiting for results of a hormone test for testosterone to confirm/dismiss a diagnosis of PCOS. Don't know whether to hope for a good or bad result: if I have it I'm more likely to attain the Holy Clomid Grail earlier, but on the down side it means there's definitely something wrong other than poor DTD timing.

Boodle I might have to visit your GP, mine will do anything in her power to prevent me getting my sticky mitts on Clomid!

Merkin we should definitely get some of those Tshirts printed. I think mine might say 'Ovaries out of order, approach with caution'

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BombasticPeanut · 08/04/2013 10:01

PS barking The mice are mega.

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