The Elderberry Pavlovas who occasionally sausage wang – a fabulous thread for 30+ ladies TTC #1 (Thread 8)

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Thanks happylass I can see the pattern now. Will need to download fertility friend. Have an app called my days but don't know if it's as good.

My days is good for symptom tracking and periods etc but won't predict O like FF...

Evening all

I haven't logged on since Sunday and realised you ladies talk a lot

Sorry to hear Boodle that your appointment was a bit disappointing today. It is making me realise more and more that there are sadly no quick answers with this whole TTC process.

Update from me, I got a Peak on my CBFM yesterday and so DTD last night and hoping to be busy tonight Was worried that I was going to have another anovulatory cycle because OV was delayed by three days so was quite pleased when I started experiencing my normal signs. However, I am now really hoping that this doesn't mean that my already short LP of 9/10 days has been reduced by 3 days as well!

Thanks for all the temping tips - think I am going to give it a try next month too! Not sure about the early wake up calls though

No idea merk, sorry. Don't actually know much about spotting and why it happens at all. Dr Google no help?!

Puppy I say pointlessly dtd as I've given up believing it's possible to get upduffed with such a short LP. Even if I drop an egg ok and it's fertilised, it surely doesn't have time to plant itself on the wall of my womb and settle in before the womb is already shedding its lining for AF. So basically unless anyone has some miracle stories to hand to persuade me upduffment is possible with an 8 day LP, I've lost hope until I get help. Which I was hoping might happen next week but realistically I know now will be at least another 3 months if not more.

Bajas. I started tracking with My Days and still use it as a back up but I wanted the mythical 'crosshairs' I heard everyone talking about!! I do find the chart on FF an bit easier to read, plus as Merks said it predicts OV so gives you that extra bit of reassurance.

Barking look here

In case the link doesn't work this is a FF search of chat type = pregnancy with LP less than 10.

On the temping time thing, without wanting to contradict Prof Merk who is the unrivalled expert on all things PIMPing and TEMPing, I have never set my alarm deliberately early, but my alarm is always set for 7am including weekends and I temp as soon as it goes off. On the occasions where I can't face the alarm and have temped whenever I have woken it hasn't made any discernible difference to the overall pattern.

boodle thanks for the link, these are the ones I had first time round! BTW I'm only relaxed because we're taking a month off the pressure, it'll be back again next month don't you worry!

Can't see that Merk, think it's only visible to paid up members.

Oh Crikey, just looking on amazon, are thermometers only a fiver?!?

I think the temping requires you to temp the second you wake up without doing anything else first. Assuming you do this the actual time doesn't really matter. The science is that your temp will normally gradually start to rise as your body naturally moves towards waking (assuming you normally naturally wake at the same time) and then will rise rapidly once you wake. Setting an alarm pre you going into that natural waking stage ensures you get a temp that isn't altered by your temp rising because you are about to wake iyswim. I think first few cycles be as accurate as you can (follow the rules where possible) then once you have a view of the pattern you can forget the rules on the whole!
Prof merk has only taken the temp of some caramel this month and have had no chance to pee on my hand in a pot! Therefore not sure I deserve my title

Merk fingers crossed your spotting might be implantation bleeding. However, if you are sure that it is not, I know I had mid cycle bleeding when I had my anovulatory cycle - have you ovulated this month?

I've decided to start popping more pills. If I get sent for more blood tests and have to wait another 3 months to follow up when I have my fc appointment next week I'm going straight on the Vitamin B6. I need to feel like I'm doing something, not just kicking time.

Merk, having a month off yourself doesn't eradicate all your knowledge! You helped me loads with the PIMPing and you're always very helpful when berries are confused by their charts. I really appreciated your help .

I've tried most things but not temping as work shifts, so no regular waking pattern. I think most of the berries are teachers so I guess don't have this issue - but any suggestions on how to get round it? Give up shift work is my preferred option! :-)

wim go with exactly what I said. Assuming you sleep for at least 3 hours before you get up on any day simply set your alarm 30 mins (or 10 at the worst) earlier than you need to, temp and then snooze til you get up. You may need to lie to FF about the time you take your temp each day (tell it they're all 8am) to get it to accept them, but it will work just the same

Wimwom, shift work is a tricky one. I guess what I'd try to do, if it were me, is set alarm to take temp 30 minutes before I have to get up, whenever that may be. You can always try it for a month and see if a pattern emerges anyway?

Barking, as a free member of FF, you can still do certain chart searches, including charts with short LP leading to pregnancy. Follow Merk's link, and click search. (If you're not logged in already, you'll need to do it once you click search).

Then the search page will come up. For category, choose pregnancy, and then in key words, search for short luteal phase. I've done this lots. It doesn't reassure me much though, as there aren't loads and loads of them, plus quite a few just look like iffy charters with arguable Ov dates!

I'm missing having charts to analyse( give me chart links!!). I need to go back and confirm but think I was more right than FF's prediction on Gail's chart!
I have no idea if I O'd this month thanks to using all OPKs as pregnancy tests last cycle and ignoring the thermometer. Would be my first anovulatory cycle I've had if so. It cant be implantation bleeding starting so early, however my crazy ray of hope (we all convince ourselves of these things don't we?) is that last cycle I definitely implanted super early, I had IP/spotting on 5dpo, positive OPK on either 6 or 7 and BFP 2 days later. In all honesty, I believe it's either (prepare for madness); BFP coming (FX), actually pregnant from last cycle [crazy emoticon], or a cyst (or worse). I occasionally have fleeting thoughts about being one of those people who doesn't realise they're pregnant until they 'shit a baby down the loo' or equivalent but suspect that's not going to be me this month

boodle great minds give the same temping advice!! Also ignore numbers on FF, remember my crazy temps last month and FF could only find 8 charts or something equally crap the same as mine then I got my BFP. It's not just how many people on FF did that happen to, but also the subsection who choose to share their charts. Maybe people with short LPs don't like go share

barking boodle wasn't mother taking something pre her BFP to lengthen LP?

Thanks wise berries - if tomorrow's fc apptointment doesn't suggest the miracle cure I know they have up their sleeve ;-) then will give temping a go, just so I can join in the fun! Sounds like some pretty rubbish FC apts today though - am feeling yr frustration. 3 mths just seems so long to wait once yr in the system. Bummer.

1 final thing before I stop thread hogging (you can come out now as I'm off to bed). Please read the thread about 'Yoni massage' in most active/chat. Even if just the last page doing song lyrics!! Do it quick as its bound to get deleted!!

Merks, I sometimes entertain myself with thoughts of suddenly finding out that I'm 6 months gone and I'm just a medical anomaly to have carried on with periods. No arguing with my AF though...I'm surprised my reproductive organs manage to hang on sometimes, let along a teeny tiny little embryo.

I have no (useful) charts for you to analyse, given that I am on CD4 (I hate CD1 - CD8. Crappy, pointless, waiting game time.)

Go on, I'm pregnant, aren't I?

Haha Merks I read the Yoni thread earlier. Hilarious!!

boodle I think you have a 9 day LP and not 8. For sure you're not pregnant but 9 days isn't bad at all!

Damn, Merks, I was going to do something productive like play Words with Friends and now I'm going to be reading that thread!

Mother was using progesterone cream. I tried it last month but I just spotted LOADS all through luteal phase. Used the recommended quantities too, but felt like perhaps that wasn't right for me. You have to be careful with it as too little can screw your body up and stop it producing its own.