Excellent (or should that be eggcellent?) egg buddies! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in April/May/June 2013 come and join us!

[EuroShaggleton]

We've almost filled the second thread so here is a new one, so we can carry on chatting! Threads #1 and #2 saw some stunning successes and some sad outcomes. We'll have more of the former and less of the latter on thread #3 please!

All comers welcome. I found it very useful to be with people going through the same thing when I did my first cycle, so if you would like to join us, please come on in!

Expat, nice, but predictable (as are all chocolate cakes in my opinion). Last night I made this but, y'know, it doesn't matter how fancily you dress up quinoa it's still shit.

The BBC Good Food website is my culinary bible: everything is delish especially this scrumptious bastard

Bloody hell jewcy. That must have been a bit of a shock! Will you stage a sit in?

Great news about the SA though. Let's hope he remembers not to accidentally have a vvank before the IVF!

Lovely buzzy, I hope you are doing ok.

tame it sounds like the embies are going strong - hurrah!

I will now hopefully be joining the June IVFers. We've dropped out of this cycle. In true groundhog day style, exactly a year after this happened before, I arrived home last night to find an abnormal smear result. Once again, it's only mildly abnormal and this could be a result of the mc (you usually have to wait for 3 months afterwards, but they let me do mine early because of the impending IVF). I've been referred on for colposcopy. Last year I got the result in the middle of downregging. Unbelievable. I can't believe it has happened again, after having a clear smear in the middle.

So I've been spending the morning contacting my insurers and clinics to try to get a private colposcopy sorted asap. And if that doesn't show anything (which is what happened last time, although my cervix was hiding away as a result of the downregging drugs) or confirms a mild abnormality, I will go ahead in June. If it finds something more sinister, I guess I will have to have treatment before IVF. :(

Raaaaaaaa! Euro, that's shit! You poor girl, but look - have the private colposcopy and if it's something and nothing just don't tell your IVF clinic. It's all bullshit and you will be fine. There is a reason you were meant to cycle in June Hang on in there...we're all in it together now X

Urgh...I sound like Cameron

I'm oddly unphased at the threat of our home being destroyed, but that's because I simply don't believe he'll get planning permission. His brother lives a couple of hundred feet away in a ginormous posh house and they hate one another with a passion; they haven't spoken in a decade. I just know the brother will put a big rusty spanner in the works

euroso sorry to here you have had to drop out due to ab smear,all the best

jewcy glad your there to be rational me and my over thinking ha ha

buzz hope your ok as you have been feeling down fingers crossed for you

expat iv got a pen for injections and hubby is happy to stab me with it ha ha im sure we will be fine let me know how your going

well no sign of AF yet after tablets should of been today just want to get started now and stop stressing ,im hoping the drugs dont make me angry as clomid did maybe ill escape the worst of it

expat I have to admit I was a bit surprised when you said 6 days at first but then wondered if you perhaps had tried before and had responded well in the past. I have tried super ovulation where I think I took the drugs for either 5 or 7 days and I got 4 eggs on it, I took 225 of gonal f, not sure if that helps

jewcy at your flat home being sold, they should have told you, thank goodness for chippy man and at the free food, I would question the progesterone just to be sure, I use the back door which would explain my wind ishoos but I would imagine you could take it after your scan

twinkle i hope things were ok with Mr T's sample, I can relate to the head of mush

euro I really do hope things get sorted for you soon and you can put all this shite behind you

Well ladies I have a bit of a confession, I did test this morning and I got a faint pink line, its still early 11 post ec, I also have to say my cat is being very affectionate towards me too

Fucking hell, Buzzy!!! Ha! Ha! I frigging knew it! You cheeky, cheeky monkey, I've felt like topping myself this week with your pessimistic outlook. YOU'RE GOING TO BE A MUM! I am over the bloody moon for you, Buzz, I really am, WOO-HOO!!

(twice)

Buzzy, what did the lovely Barry say? Bet he's dancing around like John Travolta. Well done Bazza's sperm!!

A short BBC news brief about time lapse embryo monitoring

For anyone who's interested

jewcy ah yes I looked at the article and its been discussed on a couple of other threads, well I feel a bit awful as I made him cry the other day when I had my emotional meltdown it is very low key here, not much said, will see what happens over the weekend, I've been here before and still no baby

Buzzy, I think it's brilliant that you got a result only six days after ET. None of this 2ww shit, eh? I'm feeling so positive thanks to your news, Buzzy. It works! Overseas DE IVF actually works!

Poor Bazza. He's not buried under the patio is he?

Who's going to tell Fiona?

Argh euro, so rubbish that you have to postpone but next month will be your month, it just has to be!

Yaay buzzy, totally chuffed for you my love.

Husband has just done jizz in a cup routine. Please pray for good results. He rung me afterwards saying he feels crap. Gosh this journey really is a rollercoaster and it's really hard picking the other one up when they're feeling down. Sigh.

twinkle It is a shit process, but with the likes of ICSI anything is possible, Barrys swimmers have to be the laziest on record, fingers crossed for good results next week

Euro, I would love to gloat to inform Fiona but she will simply say that Reprofit has brilliant results and Rerogenesis has shit ones

Twinkle, has your hubby had his sperm analysed before and if so what were the results? Why does he feel crap today? What are you doing, as a couple, to relieve this awful pressure? I'm so sorry you are both feeling this way. I hope you have some suggestions for me and th'usband if our cycle ends in tears

Still bowled over by your news, Buzz. You almost had me convinced it had gone tits-up, you naughty girl.

jewcy Is Fiona still on your thread, I think her problems are with the immunes, I'm still at her profile, ha no we don't have a patio but the balcony is 9 floors high, I think he will wait till tomorrow then say something, i know this has all been tough on him as well, but I think he is reaching the end and I think he just wants this to work so we can get on, I don't think he could stand anymore TTC

BuzzTheDoorbell, Fiona is someone I had never heard of on the ReproG Cycling Buddies forum and then she suddenly appeared with this very forthright rant about how her 'gut feeling' is that the clinic is not to be trusted re the stats etc. After I had given her a piece of my mind her post disappeared and then she wrote another saying she didn't want to offend anyone. Then all kind of creatures came out of the woodwork to soothe her and to say how lovely & supportive she had been 'back in the day' when they were cycling.

Of course I had already apologised at this point for using her history to make my point. I still concede that her hunches and declarations were hugely unhelpful to people like me who have chosen their donor, booked their flights and are about to start the fucking drugs. What possible good could her comments have wrought on a 'cycling' forum for June? Fair enough, if she wanted to share her grievances she has every right, but go and do it on a general chit-chat forum about Czech clinics for fuck's sake. Grr.

Today I made a tray of Delia Smith brazil nut chocolate brownies for my gorgeous nieces (14 and 18 yrs) who are coming to stay for the weekend. They are abso-fucking-lutely sublime and I can't keep my hands off 'em. Damn you, Delia!

I wanted chips but we don't have any :(

Perhaps she should have started a new thread and shared her views there, the clinics can't massage the figures much, i have to say that i'm still about her profile though

shall I send you my address for the brownies

Don't talk to me about chips

I agree Fiona's profile is shocking and really very sad. Seven years she's been TTC. She's evidently spent a massive amount of money in her quest for a baby and has been all over the place and even two attempts at ARGC! I think all those years and all that emotional turmoil (not to mention the relentless BFNs) must literally cause some psychological damage. I don't think the heart was made to take so many crushing blows

I do feel grateful that my TTC journey has only been sixteen months and that DE IVF will be our curtain call.

Nokkie, I'm getting worried about you, missus. Drop in, eh? x

Buzz, don't you have a chippy nearby?

Oooh, I forgot to tell you, me and th'usband had a very well-timed shag the night before I ovulated. I'm bound to be pregnant, right?

jewcy It can happen, look at noks

Buzz, a lady's just posted this on the ReproG forum in response to another lady's query about prices. Thought you might be interested after you enquired about the cost of IUI there:

OD cycle complete 4 500 ?
The OD cycles complete includes:

1. Partner?s sperm analysis at the day of donated eggs fertilization
2. Treatment protocol
3. Stimulating medications for the donor, monitoring of the donor?s IVF cycle, donor?s oocyte retrieval
4. Fertilization of all mature oocytes via ICSI
5. Extended embryo cultivation, Assisted hatching and embryo transfer
6. Ultrasound exam of the recipient
7. Donor?s compensation

IVF cycle complete 2 000 ?
(treatment protocol, sperm analysis at the day of eggs fertilization, eggs retrieval, general
anaesthesia, ICSI, extended cultivation, assisted hatching, embryotransfer)
IVF cycle without embryo transfer and without freezing 800 ?
IVF cycle cancelled before eggs retrieval 150 ?
Embryology methods:
ICSI 800 ?
Assisted Hatching 200 ?
PICSI 200 ?
Prolonged cultivation 250 ?
Embryo Monitoring 500 ?
Intrauterine Insemination (IUI) 130 ?
Donor sperm 300 ?

Jew - OH's results are fine in the motility and count but the morphology was 1%. Last year after cutting back on the booze the morphology went up to 2%. The doc has told him to stop drinking completely - that was 12 weeks ago and today was the SA. Hoping upon hope the numbers have improved as much as your OH's have.

Hang in there, Twinks, there is every reason to believe his efforts have paid off. In the meantime try not to fret..it won't change the results, but I bet you're in for a lovely surprise x