TTC 10 + months, part 14 (eek)

[GinSoaked]

A friendly, supportive thread for lovely ladies taking waaay longer than they ever expected to win their babies

madness I just looked up my FF chart, my downregging and stims overlapped for 5 days, then stims only. I got no guidance on diet at all, I say go with what you feel comfortable with and what's fesible for you. I prepared in advance of the first by limiting caffine and alcohol and ate lots of protein (don't really like milk) when stimming. The second time I didn't prepare and my working circumstances didn't allow to be so careful on how to balance what I ate so I bolted down a glass or two of milk a day sometimes while stimming.

I just realised madness that you asked if they keep you on downregging while stimming to stop ovulation. I think the answer is no. Begs the question - what is the overlap for? Errr I can't remember! It doesn't make sense does it? Because it seems like opposing processes. I remember thinking it was odd and I think I might have read something that solved the mystery at the time. If I recall what it was I'll pass on I'm an idiot

Just a quick one to say thanks to Euro for the article. Really interesting read.

Hope all of you IVFers are doing well. x

mrsd it's on the Conception board. I think the title mentioned the pioneer of IVF. I just wanted to doff my cap to him, so to speak.

doll you must be heading towards your 12 weeks scan soon. Good luck!

madness sorry to hear that you have been a victim of a break in too. It's awful isn't it - you work hard for the things you want and some little tosspot just comes along and takes them. And the invasion of space seems awful.

I'm glad the injecting hasn't been too awful.

The owner of the burgled house (who was out until really late on the night it happened) came over with a box of chocolates and a thank you note for us for helping to look after her friend and sort things out. Completely unnecessary - we were just happy to do what we could. Our mews is a lovely little community. I feel very affronted that there were Bad People about. Apparently all they got were 2 laptops and a couple of cameras, and made a lot of mess. Not nice at all, but she is mostly relieved that her friend did not disturb them.

AFM, I have had a bit of a horrible morning, with loads of big liver-like clots falling out of me - it worse than the mc itself, but I suppose it must be some sort of hangover from it. I'm dreading going to the loo and having to face more of it. Bleugh. It has made me feel quite queasy.

just a quickie from me

good luck to those who are stabbing at the moment

euro sorry about clots, they sound nasty, I was in my flat once when it was burgled, they didn't take anything of mine although they did steal all our booze cheeky buggers, but I never felt safe in that place after that and soon moved out, you do somehow feel violated by it all

waves to everyone else

Hi everyone, a quick one from me. Welcome to all newcomers. I second buzzy wishing everyone luck with their injections.

Update coming later when I am less swamped at work.

I hope everyone is having a nice weekend!

Thought I'd check in on you all.
Gin congrats! So pleased.
Best of wishes to all of you jabbing etc. May the finger point your way this round.
Doll 12 weeks, gosh. Fabulous.
Getting my head around being nearly 23 weeks, although the jolly good kicks I get are a reminder.
Waves to you all.

Hello lovelies! I am BACK from fabulous fantastic hols and ready to get back on the ttc bandwagon. In fact, I just put myself down for another round of IUI starting NOW (AF kindly waited til after the flight home).

I see massive congrats are in order for the gins. Hurrah and good luck for the first scan!

Waves and welcome to the newbies!

Can someone tell me what else has happened in the past three weeks? And where everyone's at now? I spotted you thought you were last on the IVF list, euro but we made a fertility-weekends away-and-hols planning this morning (flying west jetlag means starting Sunday at 6am) and we'll be doing LP IVF from June 10th or so.

And wow 12 weeks doll!!!

Yay. lemon welcome back. Did you see the "gin got a BFP from her FET" news??? That's the biggie!! Your plan sounds good.

Teu 23 weeks, wow. Doesn't time fly!

Sweets you sound very busy!

Buzzy how are you feeling on the DR?

Oh yes, you did see the Ginlet news.

Whoops!

Whilst I'm cluster posting, I meant to say Euro sorry about the scary burglary, and also about the gruesome clots. You are being so strong. I think I'd be a blubbering mess.

I had a nice day on my hobble yesterday but its wet and windy here today so being a bit unfocused. I better go and do something productive!

Morning ladies!

23 weeks. Over half way! How exciting.

drizz welcome to the IVF train. My next AF is due around 9 May, so I guess I'll be heading for EC about 2 weeks after that. We have our follow up appointment at the clinic to confirm we can go again, next week

It's lovely down here today, nelly, but I am stuck in the office. Hopefully it's the last weekend day for a while that will be the case.

Welcome back lemon!! Glad to hear you had a fantabulous holiday and have come back with a plan. Fingers crossed for IUI success and no need for the next step .

Weather is bloody miserable isn't it nelly. That is why I am still inside in my comfy clothes doing absolutely nothing much .

I am amazed by how much you're working euro and I really do hope that it settles down so you can have a break soon. I'm struggling to focus on work stuff and that's just with the distraction of stimming. After the stress and trauma you've had I can't imagine being able to keep going at such an unrelenting pace. I hope you have some nice things or nothing at all planned for your work free weekends.

Thanks doll. I shall ask the clinic when I'm in for my scan on Tuesday. I'm not going to go overboard on the diet. I realised pretty early on that if I tried to follow too many fancy diets or woo ideas that it just added to stress levels and didn't work anyway. I'll use this as an incentive to eat healthily and leave it at that.

Had another less than smooth stab this morning which involved some of the fluid being sucked out of the syringe (flipping vacuum) before I got it properly into one if the vials of powdered menopur. Don't think I lost too much but poor MrM came running thinking that I'd done myself some real damage - much cursing as I tried to minimise the damage.

Feeling strangely numb emotionally. Perhaps my way of protecting myself if this all leads to nothing. Not feeling any side effects yet from the stimming drugs which fuels mentalling that I won't respond but I know it's really early days and we're in this for the long game.

Big waves to all. Enjoy the sunshine if you have it!

madness I think they allow a little extra for that kind of thing, well that is what it said on my depot leaflet

teu ooooh 23 weeks, do you know what you are having ???

euro Working on such a lovely day should be a crime

lemon welcome back, glad you had a great trip

nelly I seem to be a bit forgetful and I am struggling to focus right now, not sure if that is the drugs or just me get the odd ovary twinge but that is all, according to my protocol I should 'have a bleed' in the coming or so then onto the estrogen.

I am learning alot on FF, I can supposedly ask for a drug that is supposed to help with implantation?? Although I seem far more interested in where I shall be eating when I am there

Hello. Hope you are all having nice weekends!

buzzy pleased to hear you aren't experiencing any nasty side effects. When do you head over? Must be less than a month until EC now??

I'm so pleased we only had to mix up the cetrotide madness. We seemed to screw it up every time and even had to throw one lot away. Don't worry about lack of symptoms - I had none at all until nearer to EC during the first ivf cycle. I was told to eat lots of protein, drink lots of water and avoid caffeine and booze during my ivfs. The protein and water help prevent ohss.

Sounds like you're having a bit of a shitty weekend euro. So sorry about the evil period. Hope it's eased up and you are feeling ok. Make sure you get lots of iron steak and Guinness

nellie how's your stabbing going? Do you have a scan soon?

Thanks lemon and welcome back! Your hols sound ace. Good luck with the iui. Do you plan to stay at the same clinic for the ivf?

23 weeks already teu? Wow! Hope you are keeping well.

sar hope you had a fab night out in the 'pool and are feeling suitably hungover today. Your maxi dress sounds lovely

gin we will miss you when you do leave us but I'm happy for you to stay, so where do people go to when they graduate from this thread, the thought of leaving here kind of freaks me out to be honest
oh and when you see a little heartbeat on the screen it will all seem real to you

Gin, do stay with us until you feel ready to graduate. I think feeling nervous is very normal and understandable. There is no reason to think anything will go wrong though.

Lemon, welcome back!

Buzzy, when do you go to the clinic? Are you excited?

Madness, I wasn't told to avoid or do anything differently so I figure it can't be that important. I'm not drinking alcohol, and I'm trying to have more water. I'm also having quite a bit of milk, and protein. But only because it makes me feel like I'm doing something. I haven't cut out caffeine completely, I'm still enjoying one or two cups of tea a day but no coffee.

Euro, I'm sorry for the clots and gunk. It sounds awful. And it's not fair that you're working so hard. I hope you get a rest soon.

I spoke to my clinic yesterday and they told me to carry on taking 112.5 until my scan on Tuesday. I'm worried that this dose is too low and nothing will be happening. Will it be too late if the dose isn't upped til Tuesday? I have only done two injections so far, and no sign of any symptoms.

mrsd I am sure they can up the dose if needed, I suppose they are concerned about OHSS, I know when I was doing the super ovulation that they upped the dose during the cycle. It can take a few days before you feel any twinges.

We leave on the 4th May and have EC on the 6th and the ET either 9th or 11th. I feel pretty calm, like madness said a bit numb really

Madness I also carried on the downregging drug throughout the stimming phase, the dose of buserelin was exactly half that of the stimming drug so I did them as 2 injections at the same time every day. I've got no idea why though. I assumed it was so your normal hormonal function didn't break through to fight with the drugs but I don't know. I felt numb too, i think as a self-protection mechanism it's no bad thing. I'm sure you're doing fine with the injections. I was given the same advice as gin on things to avoid but other than that just a normal healthy diet is all you need.

Mrsden if the clinic have said to continue with the dose you have then it will be fine. The difference between the doses is tiny and until they scan you they won't know how you are responding anyway. After the scan there will be plenty of time to up the dose if they think you need more, then adjust and fine-tune as you go along. It sounds as if you are doing everything right but it is really stressful wondering what's going on inside. Hang in there, you'll be fine.

Gin I think anxiety is normal for IVFers given what we have gone through to get the elusive BFP and I too found the optimism of the normals was really weird. There are still plenty of people I haven't told. And as you can see 10+ grads have a tendency to boomerang back here regularly . I kind of feel like we all have a bond and it didn't feel right to just walk off having had so much support and friendship on this thread . Buzz there is a grads thread in the antenatal clubs section, it's called 6+ rather than 10+ months, that's where you'll be heading when you get back from your adventures and hopefully plenty of other IVF/IUI/patient SWIers too.

Lovely to see Frannie and glad everything is going well

Waves to everyone. Glad you had a great holiday Lemon. Sar hope the weekend away was fun, bet you looked fab in your maxi dress. Euro hope you're OK after finding your neighbour's burglary, it's really horrible even if they don't take much and not fair that someone can make you feel less safe in your own home. I'm sorry not to catch up properly, heading out soon to child-sit for some friends despite feeling a bit rough, now on my 4th cold in 6 months . I woke up feeling ill today, Mr A woke up with a hangover, I'll give you one guess which of us has whinged about it most

Waves to Frannie. It's lovely to have you back! How is your nephew doing?

Art, I think it would be strange after all that we've been through to be able to act just like a "normal" I don't suppose the extra worry ever leaves us. I'd be sad if the graduates didn't keep coming back, this is home! We know each other so well now.

Buzzy, ohhhh that's close now. It's nice that its a little holiday too.

buzzy I think the numbness is partly a result of this whole process being so incredibly surreal. The fact that I am waking up in the morning, mixing medications and injecting myself is so far outside the realm of my life before AC that I just can't get my head around it. And after nearly three years of trying without a hint of a bfp I just cannot comprehend this working and me being pregnant.

art, frannie and gin please do stick around. I was thinking just the other day that it would be so strange not to come back here regularly if I got that elusive bfp. I have been checking this thread every day for so long that I would feel quite lonely without it!

mrsd don't worry about the dose. My consultant changed his mind just after the scan and upped my dose from 225 to 300. They will see what's happening at the scan and adjust if they need to. You had a good amh and afc didn't you? Too high a dose would increase your risk of ohss so being cautious is not necessarily bad. Quality over quantity as the ladies on here always say said slightly desperately by the woman with only two follies visible last Thursday.

Help I'm having a panic. Travelling tomorrow And worrying if my flight home is delayed I will have an injection issue. Should I take the pen with me just in case? Will I need a letter for the needle? (I don't have one!). I could put the pen in a cool bag I guess? answers on a postcard by 5am.

I'm definitely not stressing about what appears to be my period reinvigorating itself though. Oh no, that's totally fine...

might be an idea nelly it will help stop with the stress if you are delayed

Oh nelly I don't know. How precise does the timing of your injection need to be? Unless it's being timed for egg collection a few hours difference shouldn't be a big deal, should it?

Can you call your airline and ask about their policy on medications?

I would be exactly the same but I doubt you will have any delays and all will run smoothly and you will look back at this as yet another unnecessary panic related to TTC!