TTC 10+ months Part 13

[buzzybee123]

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

Gin I think IUI rates are lower than natural conception rates because it is often used where there are ishoos - mild male factor, unexplainedness, etc.

pout I'm sorry about the hurty head and the other stuff. I'm not sure if this will help, but if I had managed to woman the F up last summer and push through it, I would in all likelihood be about to give birth now. I did what was right for me, but in case you need a bit of encouragement to push through, I thought it might help. How irritating about the sample. I bet they just forgot it in a corner somewhere and then tried to blame MrP for handing it in late. It doesn't exactly fill you with confidence does it?

mrsd oh no, that is just about the worst thing you can say to someone suffering the misery of infertility. I am glad my usual style is quite tailored (although it does mean that I will have nowhere to hide when I get to the "looking a bit porky" stage).

I was prompted to comment on the thread by some of the BESH, who turned out there in force. I am leaving it alone now though, as it'd all turned a bit nasty last time I looked, and I don't think it is good for me to keep plugging away at it. Stupid ignorant people are stupid ignorant people. Me posting on a message board won't suddenly change them into intelligent enlightened beings.

I've just looked up what the Billings method is. Stupid ignorant man. I could pinpoint ovulation pretty much to the hour and a fat lot of good it did me!

Thanks for being nice so nice. I feel a bit bad for being a moaning minnie. mrsd I'm sorry if I am worrying you over the headaches. Everyone is diffferent and I am quite sensitive to changes in hormone levels anyway so there is every chance you will be okay euro Thanks for what you said. I know I have to push through. I'm a week in so can't give up. I have got my schedule through with my EC date so the end is in sight.
I thought the same about the sample. I wouldn't mind but MrP bloody killed himself driving from the site he was on, across London, to do the sample in time. I should just keep remembering how other than this blip they have been pretty fantastic.

That bloody discussion on the other thread....I had to abandon it on page 8 when some dickhead came on spouting on about the planet being overpopulated anyway (Following that argument I so wanted to suggest to him that it might therefore be prudent for him to shuffle off then but the drugs are maybe making me a bit too evil) and then in the next breath he was saying how he couldn't live without his kids. Okay so it's okay for him to overpopulate the planet with his offspring. It's the double standards that rile me. And if one more muppet comes out with the adoption line. It is insulting to both me as an infertile woman, to adoptive parents and also to adopted kids.

Hear, hear on the ovulation thing. The cycle before this one I actually got ovulation pain right after DTD. Am I pregnant? Am I hell.

I am studiously avoiding all IVF chat. It's irrelevant to me in the frozen north anyway. Well done euro for being able to respond without extreme use of swear words. My boss told us about our entitlement to IVF leave in a team meeting about a year ago (changes to various HR policies, it wasn't just prescient of him) and he sort of rolled his eyes and sniggered a bit.

This morning I was woken early by the cats fighting and was feeling a bit grumpy. Mr Nelly realised I was awake and rolled over and started his mating ritual (soz, I am working at home and spending a fair bit of time looking at the birds in the garden!). I asked him what the hell he thought he was doing at stupid o clock.

Him: Trying to save us 5 grand.
Me. Oh. Romantic .

Here's hoping it worked, huh???

Thanks re the fanny candles Buzz

euro I will probably wait until my next plus one period before the next round to try to get out of the financial squeeze post wedding. We'll just keep in touch about the drucks. You won't need them though. And I'm not just saying that to persuade you to give them up .

Missed heaps but really should get back to work. Catch up with everyone else soon.

Oh pout sorry about the killer headaches. I did have quite a bad one a few days in - I only do one shot of DR on the flare protocol but even that wasn't pleasant, but once I was settled into the stimms I had no side effects and bugger all growth. You will feel better once DR is over I suspect, which can't be too much longer in the grand scheme of things? Rant on here as much as you like. We can take it!

pout sorry about the head, I did wonder how I would manage with my migraines, will need to discuss with the clinic as I am reluctant to give up my drugs before a bfp.

I found the ivf thread interesting, there will always be debate about it, but i'm only interested in the opinions of people with experience not those who like to talk through their backsides, as some one upthread said they are guidlines only.

well I am sitting outside a patients house waiting for the patient to be transported here, they are an hour late and I am desperate for a pee, and only having chewing gum to eat.
My progesterone level must have dropped as I got into a 'discussion' with 3 seniors about work and poor decision making, I spent most of the morning in tears

might have to go find a bush. . . .

Hi ladies, i?ve missed loads . have been trying to keep my head down and away from all things mentalling. Ha ha.

Mrsd ? fab news about your excellent amh and great afc. This should give you a lot of confidence you will get there. From personal experience, having a very low amh has made everything feel that much more pressurised and the feeling like time is of the essence. So embrace the great news. IVf is going to work for you!!

Nelly ? i?m pleased you had a productive ivf follow up. i think sourcing extra cyclogest is a good idea. I?m on 3 a day plus gestone injections but my clinic goes overboard.

Love the fact this thread has become some kind of drug bartering thread. I also have a spare gonal f pen but i better check the sell by date before i offer it out.

Sar ? your post from last week really saddened me. you have been through so much and it?s so unfair. But i truly truly believe it?s a matter of time. Look at all those amazing embies you produced. I know they didn?t bed down but as others have said, your womb in brand spanking new and this will be different now. It?s vey hard to feel positive i know , it?s partly self protection but you have a great shot at this. It?s your time Sar.

Pout ? hell you are really going through it. the downregging is suppose to be the worst bit i believe. Poor you ? how long left before you start stimming. And sorry to hear of all these accidents you are having. What a terrible time you are having. And you are certainly not pathetic!!

I?ve ignored all press about the ivf over 40s discussion. I don?t expect anyone to understand unless they have been through it and that?s a relatively small amount of people compared to the general population.

Afm ? had another scan yesterday. The hearbeats were still there going strong but both beans are measuring over a week behind in size. I?m nearly 8wks but they are 6wk+2. It ties in with my rotten hcg levels which are still just inching up ? although Roy now takes the phone calls and doesn?t tell me what they say. I prefer being in the dark. The doc said they could be small because they are struggling/chromosome issues. So same old story. On the one hand i?m hoping that they?ll catch up but after promising myself not to google, i did succumb last night and can see that generally this doesn?t end in good news. I?ve also started bleeding again. Roy and my bf are just super positive which is wonderful but i don?t want them to get ahead of themselves. I feel very removed from it all, i just can?t believe this pregnancy will amount to a baby & i have no expectation for it hence why i?ve been writing a plan of what i?ll do when the inevitable happens. Goodness i can?t tell you how much i want my head to be down the loo ? any sign that my body is producing the right hormones. Give me morning sickness please! So my saga continues really. It?s not quite over but things don?t look great. I?m just hanging.

Sorry i?ve missed loads. But big waves to everyone especially those in the tent.

buzz you could always push for short protocol or some other DR drug. I think it is burserelin that is notorious for headaches.

joy it's great that the London Two are hanging on in there. I hope beyond hope that this works out for you.

I think that if buzzy is doing Donor eggs you have to do the DR to time it, but I might be wrong?

joy you are my hero. How you sound so calm I really don't know. Did you go for acu? No "advice" from me, how could I? But they are hanging on, so you make tough little embryos. You are giving them every chance and that's all you can do. Hand holds xx

Good point Nelly. I had forgotten it was a DE cycle for buzz.

thank goodness this shit day is over

joy you are amazing and maybe they are just relaxed in no hurry babies, and will catch up when they are ready, I am still hopeful for you :)

euro and nelly yes DE IVF so no choice sadly otherwise I would have used SP

Just popping in quickly between work and tea to say Pout lovely, do hang in there. Downregging is the pits. I would rather go through egg collection again rather than do another week of downregging and I didn't even have the migraines, just felt depressed and evil for the whole time. It's OK to whinge, we can take it and we are here to hand-hold and offer (the infamous cat bum) and or . I can't offer much consolation other than just to keep reminding yourself why you're doing it. I wanted to pack it in many times but now that phase has faded into memory and obviously now I'm so glad I stuck with it.

Euro at the name change. Is that for the BESH Scott of the Antarctic theme? I am at the fat stage. I don't look pregnant yet (no obvious bump), just like I've porked up. I have literally two items of work clothing that fit me. Good job I'm not in the same office every day. One of my consolations about barrenness - which I have made the most of - is being able to wear little fitted dresses but that's backfiring on me now as there is nothing in my wardrobe to accommodate all the weight I've put on. I'm dreading the midwife making me get on the scales Still not got the vast pregnancy enormo-norks though. The novelty of having a cleavage is the bit I was looking forward to! as well as the baby, before you all think I'm totally shallow

Joycep lovely to hear from you and so glad the heartbeats are still going strong. You have some tough little embies in there, I'm really keeping everything crossed that it works out. Could they just have implanted late? I daresay you've thought of that. The longer the heartbeats hang in for, the better the chance it will work out. I found stats that said if you have a heartbeat at 9 weeks you have a 98% chance of a successful pregnancy. One day at a time. Just because you're not throwing up doesn't mean there's a problem. I've had very few of the classic symptoms but so far (fingers crossed) seem to have been OK.

Sorry for the half a catch-up, I had more to say but Mr A has cooked tea and this is the one night this week I've managed not to have to work all evening so need to shut the computer down. Waves and loves to all.

Hi everyone

I'm just new to this today

For a while I have thought Mmm I don't need to be on that but as the months roll on with ttc support is needed

Everyone around me is pregnant even those who started trying after me

My best friend planned in dec that she wanted to start trying, most fertile day was 31 dec, by second week of jan it was confirmed she was pregnant

Every month I think maybe it's now but dreaded back pain and the familiar red veil is drawn

Best friend is getting married in nov so now wouldn't be the wisest decision BUT just desperate to get pregnant

I wish everyone well. Next doctors appointment is Tuesday with results from three sessions of bloods so here's hoping eh?!

Sorry you've been feeling so grim pout. Is it still downregging your on? I wish I could make it better. Also impressive if shit about the falling down stairs etc.

Oops another whole page of posts - will read those now. In case you were wondering I was at book club last night eating and drinking too much and bruising myself stabbing when I got home

Just popping on quickly to say pout I'm sure the headaches will get better once you start stimming. I normally get terrible hormonal migraine but had none with the stims. It was actually much better migraine-wise than a normal cycle. buzz I think you can still take coedine & paracetamol so your tablets might be ok?

mrsd I think you are doing SP? It's the down regging drugs that cause the headaches and were one of the reasons why i was so desperate to do SP.

joy so pleased their are 2 heartbeats. I so so hope this works out. And you are such a strong lady. Fingers crossed for you.

Ooo a besh Scott of the Antarctic Fred euro?! Sounds ace. I'm a bit obsessed with that kinda thing. I'm certainly I might be some time --ttc- gin!

arte boo to lack of preggo boobs. That'd be something I'd (or rather Dave) would really appreciate, if I ever manage to get there.

Welcome kellie

Gotta shoot. Waves to everyone else

Wow joy the rollercoaster continues... Good on the little heart beats, but :( on the size. Keeping everything crossed for you.

Nelly the 5am mating ritual to save a few grand made me chuckle. MrNelly is great.

How annoying about the downregging for your donor cycle. I have to say downregging is the bit I am worried about most. But my clinic is not so happy to start met SP because I am "young" at 34... and they like to time their ECs of course

Sorry about the are-you-pregnant comments mrsd! And :) at not fitting any of your barren, slinky dresses arte. Here's to hidy clothes for all of us this year!

Welcome here kellie what is you story? The thread is lovely and supportive, but it is rubbish to find yourself here!

Just to add to the preggo-boob- discussion, I am fairly well endowed and my boobs at 6 weeks really freaked me out (and they stayed a bit bigger for a month or so post-mc, which I thought was totally unreasonable)

kellie welcome :)

gin I think it was you who asked if MIL had stumped up the cash, um no, they are helping BIL buy another property so she hopes to have something by May.

I can understand why they are doing LP, my close colleagues know I will be on it soon, so have been warned, my senior has been great and said if there were days when I wasn't feeling well and wanted to start later in the day I could, she is willing to be flexible which I appreciate

Oh dear apparently I've just been duped by Viv on another thread. And here was me trying to be kind .

oooooh do spill the beans nelly

I second that :)

did you ask whether she had sex after the lap?

which thread and what name is she using, man I need to get a life

Hello all. I just got in and had my tea and now it's time to nurse the fur baby but will try and do a bit of a catch up in a bit as I've just had a read. nelly you so were duped! A lovely reply I thought. I'll be back...

buzzy I also need to get a life, I had to go and have a peek! I got it on the title.