TTC 10+ months Part 13

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A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

Buzzy, I'll stretch my other paw over the north sea to you.

Euro, my names have all been snatched by people who probably started ttc a long time after me. It's so frustrating. You'll get to name your baby soon enough, how are you feeling? Has it sunk in yet?

Nelly, will you move on to ivf no 2 soon then?

Doll, did you have two embryos put in?

I still don't really understand the protocols. The dr said I would be on short protocol because I'd be more likely to be over stimulated on the long one. He also said that because he thinks I have good egg reserve that my outcome with short would be just as good. It's all confusing though.

Yes MrsDen, hopefully after my next period. But we are a bit skint after the wedding/honeymoon which does impact it somewhat. But may well be similar timing to you/critter/buzzy, and others?

Hello all, I missed alot and I'm sorry to see so many tent dwellers. Although critter the drinks are a nice touch. I've now got a cold, the first all year. euro early waking is a thing in pregnancy, I had it well before just from worry, and now have a double dose. Dr Rock was chilled out when I called to tell him yesterday. I'll book scan next week.

No mrsden still just one put in there!

So it's probably not twins then doll, I wondered when you said you had strong symptoms early on.

Nelly, I know what you mean about the cost. We don't get a free go, but we get 3 at 50%. Each cycle will cost us about 1500euro. It's cheaper than the uk I think. Our clinic does sometimes offer free cycles for taking part in trials. They have one at the minute to test a new stimming drug, but they want women with lower amh than mine.

Critter - thank you for your comforting words, I know you are right about normal couples not conceiving every month. I just feel so gutted as it felt different this month.

Euro - hormone dip is correct im sure, I am 14dpo and another bfn this morning. Iam fed up.

Den - I would take the short protocol any day. Very exciting times ahead for you. Xx

Buzx - you know how kind you have been to me dont you, thank you.

Rabbit - how did the gp visit go? Are you ok?

I am in sadville, but going to hairdresser now which is nice.

Sar, I'm always in sadville just before af. I blame the hormones. I start to feel better once af arrives which is crazy really. Are you sure it hasn't worked this month? There's always hope whilst af stays away. You've reminded me to book a hair appointment, are you going for a change of style?

sarlat I'm so sorry that you are feeling so low. There is nothing like a "promising" cycle turning to shit to drag you right down & set off all manner of negative thoughts. You're so right that it isn't fair and you deserve a lucky break (but like nelly said, you will get there. Us ladies on here just like to take the scenic route!). I hope that your trip to the hairdressers cheers you up a bit. When I feel crushed by another failed cycle I try and focus on how my period will be over within a week and then it's only a few more days before we're gearing up for another ovulation and another shot at the prize. Soon you will be mentalling over a new cycle and this one will be a dim and distant memory Big hugs though sarlat

nelly Sorry about the A* announcement. All the period talk just makes me worry. I'm down to a period lasting just a day and a half and mainly brown gunk That can't be good. It would make many woo doctors faint in shock I imagine!!!

critter woo hoo about ovulation and helpful doctors appointment. Enjoy your long weekend.

mrsd so glad that you are getting over the lap so well. Sorry about another preggo announcement. I decided to go all masochistic on myself the other day and logged onto FB for the first time in ages. It made me remember why I don't bother with it. I was particularly peeved about constant updates from a new mum regaling us about her early afternoon wine o'clocks. Also the news feed was awash with kiddie birthday party photos and births of siblings. Also I found I was getting really upset about how cliquey it seems to be when you become a mum and how when something is posted all these other mums pile in and offer advice or "ohhhh I know. Little Willy does exactly that" comments. I might never be part of that dynamic.

gin I hope that the booze killed your cystitis

euro another announcement - they always seem to come in clusters on here. Sorry about the name stealing thing. Just console yourself with the thought that you will choose something much more discerning and unusual for your bubs

I called the clinic yesterday and they don't think that MrP falling ill will be a problem though we will have to keep them updated. We are hoping that his antibiotics are the right ones for the type of infection and will find out on Monday. Also praying that it is just a kidney infection and not stones or something requiring a hospital visit. I just can't believe that this has happened now just to throw some more worry and stress into the mix.

Injecting is getting better at this end though I have had a constant headache since starting. I'm not sure whether this is the drugs or my usual menstrual feeling like shit thing though the headaches feel more stabby than usual. I did not pull a whitey this morning either - whoop!

doll the cold is probably a good sign - your body's immune system is a bit suppressed to let the foreign DNA in the embryo implant. I think it's quite common to come down with something at this point. Do you get an early scan?

I googled yesterday and discovered that insomnia is really common. This morning it was even earlier - 3am . I did an hour or so of work and then managed to get back to sleep. Thankfully my work is really quite soporific!

sarlat the hormone dip around the time of arrival of AF is so cruel - just when you are feeling at your lowest, mother nature comes along and gives you a big slap around the chops. Meh. But critter is absolutely right. It is normal for it to take a few months, even in the fertile, so don't despair. You may well still get a post-lap BFP.

mrsd 1500 euros a pop is really quite good. The cheapest you can find a conventional cycle here is about £3500, and many clinics are far more expensive than that. The UK always seems to get a raw deal!

It hasn't quite sunk in yet. I have yet to be able to bring myself to use the P word in reference to myself. I don't want to wish sickness on myself, but I think if I were throwing up, or had the metallic taste or something, it might all seem more real, but I just don't feel "p" at all.

Ohh mean't to say buzzy I hope that your migraine has gone today. Also it made me think to tell you that I went to the opticians last weekend for a routine eye test and found that I have astigmatism. While it doesn't affect your sight per se it just puts your eyes under added strain and can cause migraines. It just made me wonder whether you have it too? I'm getting glasses just to wear for concentrating on things like the TV or sewing and when my eyes feel strained or when I have a headache. Just a thought

pout are you on burserelin? If so, headaches are the most common side effect (and about the only one I didn't get - I was ticking off the rest of the long list in the box). You can take paracetemol if you are suffering. I'm glad the injecting is getting a little easier. I think once you get over the idea of sticking a needle through your skin the actual practicality of it isn't too bad.

euro Yes, it's Bureselin. Headaches are the one side effect I really, really didn't want! I've been taking aspirin because the headaches feel a lot like migraine. Is that bad in an IVF cycle? I was thinking that given we're not at the follie stage that it would be okay. Shit, maybe aspirin is a bad idea.

You're right about the mental barrier being the actually sticking the needle in. It was never about the potential pain for me just the leap from picking up the syringe and pushing it in. It is getting easier each time though I still can't think about it all too much either during or throughout the day!

Oops burserelin...I prefer my spelling & pronunciation of it!

I'd check with your clinic re: aspirin, particularly as you get close to EC, because it thins the blood and you don't want the risk of a lot of bleeding when someone is poking around your fanjo and ovaries. My clinic actually asks you to take low dose aspirin from EC onwards (which I am doing) as there is a theory that it aids implantation. Ibruprofen is bad because it can inhibit ovulation. I know that paracetemol is generally considered fine though (and I am sure aspirin is too, so far before EC).

Thanks euro I will ask the clinic. I'm just starting to realise how little I have prepared for the cycle and how I should have asked way more questions. It's not like I didn't have months and months to think of these things! I am such a muppet.

You made me laugh about not wanting to mention the "P" word. Is MrEuro allowed to use it?

Neither of us is using it!

TBH, I learned far more about AC from these boards and random googling than questioning my clinic.

1500euro is what we have to pay, the other 1500 is paid by the insurance. So a cycle costs 3000euro. If we need a fourth cycle then we will have to pay 3000.

Sorry about the headaches pout. Are you in the downregging stage now? Is mrpout feeling any better?

Taking the scenic route has made me chuckle, pout. As nice as these back lanes are, I'd like to get back on the highway now.

mrsd Day three of very first injections so I guess that is downregging (see I really haven't asked enough questions!) I think the clinic described it as shutting things down so they can take control???

Thanks for asking after MrP. He's still pretty rough but my God is he milking it! I have never made so many hot water bottles and cocoas & I'm running backwards and forwards fetching glasses of water and blankets. It makes me die really when I think back to my lap and how he managed to make me 2 poached eggs and one cup of tea the whole time I don't think it helps that secretly (and obviously really, hugely, massively irrationally) I'm peed off that he waits 14 years and "decides" to get sick the day we start our IVF cycle

Typical man pout, bless him! Hopefully the drugs will kick in soon and he'll be better . I think you must be on the long protocol, so the drugs you're taking now shuts your ovaries down, then you'll take a different drug to fire then up again.

Morning all,

This place has been busy lately and I'm falling behind!

Having a slow morning before heading to my own hair appointment this afternoon. We can both feel pruned and shiny this afternoon sar. I am so sorry that you are feeling low. I am in a different situation but had been hoping for the post lap pregnancy before they told me I needed to go on the drugs. The constant cycle of hope and disappointment is so draining. I really am pleased to be getting a break from it, although frightened that ivf is our only way of getting pregnant in the immediate future. I won't be kept on these drugs long term though so if ivf doesn't work there may well be a chance of a miraculous bfp in my post ivf future..... Try to look forward positively says me trying not to feed into menkulling about the fact that your Af isn't actually here yet

Hope you're alright joy. I can't imagine what seeings hbs must have been like. You and Roy are doing so well xx

pout boo to headaches but well done for getting the hang of injections. I also get irrationally angry with MrM for getting sick at inopportune times. He also does the full on man flu act whenever he has a sniffle. I am sympathetic..... To a point. The antibs should kick in quickly and make him feel much better.

I will be joining you all mrsd buzzy critter nelly with ivf at end of march/beginning of April. Will be good to have a bunch of us.

I hope things are brighter today rabbit and that the visit to the GP was okay.

Alright need to get a move on. Waves to euro gin doll sea freedom and everyone else that I have inevitably missed.

Yep, that's the long protocol where they shut you down before ramping your ovaries up to produce the eggs.

pout the timing is awful isn't it! I can't believe you are waiting on him so much when you are downregging yourself! I hope he picks up soon.

err, the running backwards and forwards after MrP stopped abruptly about an hour ago when I fucked up my leg!!!!!!!???????? It was one of those common hopping from foot to foot, shuffling to get into jeans that are too tight sporting injuries! Something made a ripping sound (not my jeans unfortunately) and then there was a searing pain in my leg. I now can't put any weight on it and had to crawl down the stairs on my bottom. Hells bells. [arghhhhh face]

madness How is the hair? To be fair MrP is properly ill which is why I am actually being an uber bitch for being secretly pissed off If it was the usual man cold I would have had words by now!

Oh no! I hope you are ok, pout. What a pair you make this weekend.

pout you need to train the dogs to look after you two, just think you look back and laugh at this when you tell your kids Migraine is better this afternoon so hoping it has past as
a) i'm running out of drugs
b) going out tonight and tomorrow

I do have my eyes tested regularly and do have glasses but mainly for reading craftwork computers etc, I have been using them alot recently but maybe should wear them more. My eyes haven't changed that much over the years, one is slightly long the other is slightly short sighted

sar big hugs, you really have to believe in yourself and that you will reach your goal somehow, you are such a lovely person, you have a wonderful husband, a great job and if you become an aunt before you become a mum then you'll be fabulous at that too, don't let the dear take over,

its nice to know that there will be a few of us doing IVF at the same time, I know my EC is on 06/05, so I have to call to get my protocol 2 months before.

mrsd stretching out my little paw too, that is a good price for IVF, hence why we are going 'abroad' for ours

rabbit I have yummy carrot cake to offer you in the tent

joy thinking of you lovely lady

well i'm a bit miffed as there is no rugby on as its stupid FA Cup stupid faggot football

Hi everyone

I'm going to try to catch up but bound to miss something important, apologies now if I do.

Pout well done on the stabbing. You'll get used to it! I was surprised to find it hurt less than I expected but still there was something grim about sticking a needle into myself. Headaches are a side effect of the buserelin. I felt really low on it but nowhere near as bad as Euro did, everyone is different. It can also delay your period, mine was late, light and went on for ages, so don't be surprised if that happens. Sorry about Mr P being ill - and your leg! How is it now? you haven't snapped a tendon or something have you? that's agony.

Euro I didn't use the P word about myself until I was about 10 weeks and had to tell the gym instructor. It felt weird saying it, and it still does, in fact i am reluctant to tell people even though we are past the 12 week mark. I think it's different for those of us who have had a tough time getting there. i am immensely grateful and still surprised at being P but that doesn't mean I want the world to know. I am keeping it very low key which is getting me some earache off my mum.

Buzz sorry you've still got a migraine, you do seem to suffer from them an awful lot. Pout may have something with the sight suggestion. I had to admit my glasses were no longer optional several years ago and the random headaches I'd been having magically stopped - they were never migraines though.

joy thinking about you and Roy. Amazing to see two heartbeats but so scary to still have the worry about the bloods. i do wonder though, how many women who have conceived without AC have their hormone levels scrutinised to that extent? I wonder what version of 'normal' the docs are comparing you to. Fingers crossed you are just a slow riser on the hormone front and the little beans hang in there. Hope you are able to relax this weekend.

Sar I'm sorry you're feeling low. The cycles where things seem different are the pits. I was reading recently about the number of conceptions that don't make it - ie sperm meets egg but things go wrong and the woman has a period as normal and often doesn't even know - and it's a really high percentage, something like 30 or 40%. That happens to everyone, even the instadiffers, and it doesn't mean there is something wrong. Your lap will have made a difference, you just need to give it time, but it's hard. Hugs and cake

Waves to the March/April IVFers. It's great that a bunch of you will be going through it together. It really helped to have Doll and nelly on a similar timescale to me to hand-hold.

Critter your Third Man cocktail sounds amazing. I'm putting that on my list for when I'm allowed to drink cocktails again. I have a regular cocktail buddy, she's now a tea and cake buddy, I'm looking forward to being able to go out and drink mojitos again though I fear I may fall over at the first sniff.

Mrsd I did at you checking out the other normals in the waiting room, I did exactly the same thing. MrA was peering at the receptionist's screen at people's dates of birth and I was relieved to find I wasn't the oldest there.

Gin so sorry about the evil cystitis. It probably was a side-effect of the clinic fiddling about then not letting you wee. Rabbit's anti-cystitis tips (lots of water, showering before sex, the disgusting bicarb in half a pint of water the second you feel signs) really help. But I'm sure a strong G&T will help too

Rabbit and Nelly I'm posting cakes and a good single malt into the tent. Sorry about the A* Nelly, that's crap. Rabbit did you see the doctor? How is your fur baby? It's scary when they are ill. Our old kitty was really poorly a few years ago, had an infection that sent her wonky but we thought (thanks Dr Google) that she might have some sort of brain tumour. Antibiotics miraculously cured her but I have never seen Mr A so upset. She is part of the family.

I'd better go rescue tea from the oven (MrA is out and when left to my own devices I have a bad habit of burning things). Waves and tail feather shakes to everyone, I won't try to name check as i am bound to inadvertently forget someone, so will just wave sparkly knobs enthusiastically at you all, happy weekends everyone