Just Shagging - JSers roll up for fred 12

[Kittenkatzen]

Oh, the other fred filled up all of a sudden! Oh well here's a new one....(horse feel free to replace if you want to be fred starter, just didn't want everyone in limbo!)

Fred rules;

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.
Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.
Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce in other posters).
Viroid = This is you, dear poster. The reason for this is a closely guarded secret, known only to....er....well, nobody as far as we can tell!
POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit).
Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.
Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

The link to Part 11 is [[http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1553148-Just-Shagging-The-lazy-TTCers-heaven-this-is-Shaggers-Corner-Part-11 here]

The link to the latest grads thread is here

Happy shagging shaggers :o

Thanks for the advice Horse - will PM you. Sorry - had a cross message for a sec there. Thanks - it would be lovely if you read it. Maybe I could return the read? Well done on the weight loss too. Must be all that JSing - it's good exercise!

Hey Frog - give me your other hand and then you can't POAS and neither can I. I'm with ya . . .

I work with some midwives and I asked one of them if I could have a word in her clinic re testing etc. she simply said 'is your period due' ...'have you missed it yet' and ....'just wait till you've missed your period and then test, simple' ....
No love! It's not that simple! I'm gonna friggin explode
Then I felt like a tit for asking.

Thanks Frog - I PM'd you with the link. Don't feel like a tit. I feel the same - think you've caught my meltdown from yesterday. Waiting is not my forte, but as DH reasoned with me the other day; if you test early then it's most likely going to be inconclusive meaning you're throwing money and POAS away, which may not bother you, but it will still be inconclusive for a bit, so it's best to wait. doesn't stop me googling like crazy, symptom spotting, rabbiting on to anyone who will listen about it and biting my nails down to the quick in anticipation, I know

Thanks Bear I shall have a good read in 30mins when DS goes off to bed I really admire those of you who write stories. I do a lot of journal / white paper writing...& used to adore more creative writing but never get the motivation anymore. Work wears me out!!

I know Bear it was a bit poo. Flowers much appreciated. I was mainly upset that poor DS got dragged into it - he's v sensitive. I've always been honest about my ex & have no feelings for him but I want him in DSs life & think that's understandable.

AF due for me 16th! See our dates are getting creepy similar

bear could you PM me the link too? It would be lovely to have a good read since I am off work.

Boy have some from me too. It sounds like a horrible situation. Mine is kind of the opposite - my DCs dad hasn't seen them for 4 years now, and we don't even know where he lives now. All his family have nothing to do with the DCs either so I am lucky that DH and his family have embraced them so well.

AF probably due for me around 21st, although last time was a 6 weekish cycle so who knows. Frog I shall assist in the hand holding. Resist the temptation! Hope all went well this evening, and congrats to you horse.

Just sent it to you Waves. Thanks for reading.

Thanks to you all for your interest - I'm really touched. Hope you enjoy it. Some people have told me it's a bit scary/violent in places, so maybe don't read it alone in bed. I got a bit scared myself the other day - what an idiot!

Thanks waves . You see that puts things in perspective for me & is part of why I encourage DS's dad to be around...I always feel I'm lucky compared to situations like yours. But then on the other hand of course at times I think it'd be so much simpler if he'd just wanted nothing to do with us. & poor DH did completely take us both on as his, so it must be painful (ExP buggered off whilst I was pregnant & met DH online at 9 months do he's been around for DS's entire life)

Just read the first part bear ...like the building suspense! Also making me a bit glad I'm not a teacher after all lol. Am going to read some more in bed tonight :) speaking of scaries...has anyone been watching American Horror Story??

I'm cd18 today so think our shagging is done for this month. And, to be fair, it's our first month/week so not expecting much. I will poas on 24th if no sign of the ertd.

Well done on the short story, bear. My best friend is a writer and it's bloody hard work.

I had a meltdown at work today. Only a minor thing (couldn't access documents) but it meant I couldn't get any work done. Had a strop and now get to work from home tomorrow. Have a million clients chasing and soooo far behind but given how unproductive I was in the office today, I might as well work from home!

I sympathise bronte! They decided I was moving rooms today (no warning) so my computer was promptly unwired & I was left dithering about like an idiot half the day :( fortunately only 2 'clients'. Aaaaaall the time :p hope you have a productive day at home

Sounds like me.... Altho I usually don't need a reason to have
strop at work. It goes with the territory of working with a hunch of complete assholes!! I wish I could work from home :-/
Tomorrow I have a diary full of appointments so it should go quickly! Fx!

I am lucky I can work from home. My boss is good like that.

Ran into a former colleague in the lift today. She is same age as me (41) and had a baby about 18 months ago. Anyway, we are friends on FB but she doesn't post much. So I said, oh, you're back. She said 'well I am back again. Came back from mat leave but been off because I had a heart attack'. My jaw dropped. She is my age. She's fit etc. Absolutely floored me.

frog Hooe your day does go quickly tomorrow! And boymeetsworld, that sucks about your day. Hope tomorrow is better!

Thanks Boy and Bronte. Haven't seen American Horror Story but sounds like my kind of thing. Will investigate . . .

Boo to the knobends at work. Hope working at home is better Bronte.

Oh, didn't refresh page- sorry Bronte - meant earlier knobends not your friend. Blimey, how scary about the heart attack.

Thanks for the link bear, havnt had chance to read yet as had super bush night after I left here. I couldn't click the link though but maybe that just cos I'm on the iPad... I'll sort it out.
Anyway, how's the shagging going ladies??
It's been over a week for me now, I'm no where near the bloody wagon!!

Think we're all shagged out for the month now! I mean, I'll carry on so DH doesn't just think I'm using him for certain days but, well, meaningful shagging is behind us!

So now I wait and try not to misinterpret every single sign. I mean, to be honest, it's got to be highly unlikely to happen this month. My coil was only taken out last Wednesday. Admittedly, that was cd13 but, really, I'm 41, who am I kidding? Though, if it were to happen dh would think he was the most virile man on the planet. EVER. You know what men are like!!

Working from home is going fine so far, as you can all tell ... !!!

I'm not on the wagon, but that's because there's no wagon to be on, so to speak! DH coming home today. Hurrah!

Still feeling on and off weird - can't say I always feel sick, just like the very start of a stomach bug and then it goes and comes back again many hours later. Also, have terrible bum wind (sorry if it's TMI). Everything I eat seems to produce gas. Not sleeping that well (but could be because DH is away) and keep thinking I'm going to get a cold/sore throat and then it disappears only to return a few hours later. I know, I know - Hooya to self - this is symptom spotting in the extreme, but mainly my stomach feels terrible, like I need to have it flushed out. Feel really uncomfortable. Still haven't tested though. I bet I have some kind of virus. I'm now 12dpo.

Bear you are so good I was walking to a meeting earlier thinking, I'm 12dpo tomorrow, I'm gona poaic. Anyway I've just been to the loo and I'm sure my wee was pink. Not a good sign. Oh well, this report aint gona write itself :-/
Oh an re using DP on certain days lol.... My do probably totally aspects cos its been a week now and I just cba!! Whereas before I was making it happen even in my sleep!! Lol

bear just read the first part of your story and really enjoyed Oh - and I think your resolve in avoiding POASing negates the need to hooya yourself. (But I am secretly keeping my fx for you)

DH has recommended American Horror Story to me as well - that might be my plan for this afternoon - once I have written a work report. Sigh.

Have also got to try to summon up some energy for some music practise - have a couple of gigs coming up scarily soon (Saturday and next Thursday) and need to learn or write some new songs as, frankly, I am getting bored of the ones I am doing at the moment!

My DP watches American horror story. He reckons the last series was better but from what I've seen its just plain weird!! And a few eyes closed moments!!

Cheers Bear, will read the rest of it later, but really liked part one. Really didn't like Gloria, the cah.
Hurrah for the return of Wagon/DH! Does this mean we can look forward to you POAS tomorrow morning?

Good luck on avoiding ERTD Frog

American Horror Story; only watched half of last season as it coincided with newborn DS & I had to take a break as there was an episode about abortions/dead baby & I couldn't bare it in my emotional state!

We're having lots of JS here, but I'm really down today about not being pg. Have been feeling ok recently so have no idea where the down has come from...

Hi all sorry to have disappeared for a few days! I'm all confused at the moment, don't really have anyone I can talk to about it so hope you lot don't mind if I write it all down here.

Since having DS (now 20 months) I've been desperate for another baby. Literally, friends getting pregnant or having babies has had me crying about not being in a situation where we could have another baby. DH agreed that we could start trying a few months ago despite still not really being in the right situation (we need to move house before having another one, money is tight as it is etc). We tried for a month and I started talking to you lovely folks about it all. Second month was when I was unwell and ended up hospitalised etc so had 2 months off from trying so I could recover, and also my cycle had utterly messed up with being unwell. So here's the problem...

Since I was unwell there's a part of me that isn't sure I want another baby yet I was so certain, I was so excited when DH agreed we could try. Nothing has changed since, DS is still his cheery, cheeky self, me and DH are happy as always together.

Do you think I should stop TTC? We are not charting or anything, just shagging as and when we fancy so it's not necessarily something that will happen quickly. Or am I just scared as its now a reality rather than a pipe dream, and still doing the right thing? DS was a surprise, so never had to TTC before.

Apologies for self-centred post, my head just feels a bit shoved-up-my-arse at the moment. Hope all are well at the moment :)

Rock, it's a hard question, lots of things to bear in mind.

Last month when I got my BFP, DH & I were fookin terrified at the idea of having 2 kids, since having the mc it's made us both realise we don't think our family is complete & we want more than one, we're not massively well off & live in a 2 bed flat but we want another baby more than a bigger house.
We've never ttc either & it's been really hard on me...same as you when people get pg/announce new babies (even pissed off that Peaches fucking Geldof is pg again).

How do you feel about a bigger age gap?
What does DH want?
What are the pros/cons of having another one soon instead of waiting 2/3 years+?
How will you feel if in 5 years you're ready for another but you can't have one for whatever reason?

Without being you, it's hard to know if you really want to wait or if you're just having a 'holy shit more babies' moment!
You could always go back to 'not trying, not trying not to get pg'? JS without intent? (although then you'd miss us ).

Or give up until next year, have a month & a bit to think it over with DH & see what you both want then?

Hi rock that is tricky. I have days when I mentally Opt-Out too. For all sorts of reasons. Mainly, I think, due to ExP leaving me whilst preggers with DS I think I've hot a buried fear that things might not work out with me & DH & I'd end up with 2 kids by 2 different dads & the life of juggling that ensues. But also - I'm actually just not a v maternal person. I adore DS but hated being preggers & wasn't over keen on the tiny baby years. When DH & I argue, or work is stressful or I panic about finances I wonder if we should be doing this.

BUT if you say there are totally no external factors making you rethink, that's tougher. horse gives some great advice. Why don't you stop trying for a few weeks just to check if you still feel the same for a prolonged time. Then you can reassess.

It's so much easier to try again in a few weeks than have a baby you don't 100% want (though of course I'm sure you would once your li'l bundle arrived!)