Round up your ghosties and ghoulies and long legged beasties, the BESH are going to scare out the BFPs!

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Its true, NGCECOAWT, so the BESH move on.

Join us in spooky October, for a different sort of Pagen fun. Sod the lentil weaving and organic bean bags, we're channelling pointy black hats, green tinged foundation and probably a bit of Harry Potter.

Join us for cursing of the insta-diffs, moments of pure love and the horrors of the cam of the fanjo - post the Beshtionnaire and the coven will judge you.

This is not a woo thread (TINAWT)

Forgot to add 2 3/4 years for me and not a sniff of a diff.

I'd love to have reflexology. I love people messing with my feet as long as they don't mind my thoroughly unattractive feet. I have my grandad's feet apparently. My mother enjoys pointing out my imperfections and where I got them from

Aww, I feel so accepted - thanks everyone!

My friend has suggested acupuncture to me a couple of times, but I'm mostly rather about it. Should I give it a try, do you think? I suppose her PCOS-suffering acupunture-undergoing friend does now have two children so it might work...

Bugs, this is my bike - so beautiful the man in the shop loves it and was a bit sad when I took it away. We went out riding with friends at the weekend, and down all the hills my friend was pedalling furiously on her mountain bike and I had to keep braking to stop myself leaving her behind

My first one didn't tell me to stop doing anything.

The new one has suggested I lay off chilli for a while as I was running "hot".

I was a complete woo sceptic, but the first woman definitely did something. My cycle got a bit more normal (it used to be a bit long with a shortish luteal phase, now it is pretty much text book with ov on days 14/16 and an approx 14 day LP) and my droidal pains eased (fewer clots=less uterine squeezing to get it all out, I think - less clotty periods was one of the things she told me she was trying to achieve). I would never have believed that shoving a few needles in me could achieve anything, but it does seem to. Basically it can't do anything for physical obstacles (e.g. blocked tubes) but does seem to help with righting anything that is a bit out of whack. You need to get on with the individual though.

Where do they put the needles? Just out of interest?

I'm a total, completely and resolutely, with no possible doubt, a sceptic. I laugh in the face of those woo maniacs. I mean really.

But.

1. it seems to do something, even to our very own sceptic euro. And, while i don't know you, I really believe you don't take any shit (slightly intimidated of your highfaluting, business travelling posts)

2. what have I got to lose (about £45 for a starter I suppose..)

3. nothing else fecking works.

Not reflexology though, I giggle if people even look at my feet in a certain way. As for touching? I'd be jumping off the bed straight away! Needles don't bother me (lucky really), but both googled practitioner seem to do some horrific introduction session with a chat about symptoms from "top to toe". Maybe they'll sort out my headaches, IBS and exhaustion while I'm there?

Bugs- can I ask who you go to anyway? Lots of places seem to do a selection of things and a reccomendation would be nicer than just wandering in off the street..

Oh bugs. I have several friends now who have "completed" families. One, who is the loveliest person ever, is only 28 and baby 1 was v much a surprise while on the pill. She's terrified it'll happen again, and, as both of them are 28, no one will do anything permanent for either of them (she's got a coil now I think). I feel for her, but really can't be around when she has her stress moments.

I've made a casserole tonight, and am now drinking my body weight in cider (I needed a splash for the pot. Shame it was a full bottle). Crack on with the wine. Try and limit the self hate eh?

Oh and draf, luff the bike. Am . Mine was cheap cheap cheap.

Ooh I like it witchywoman.

Re acupuncture, I considered it but never got round to it but I found my local uni did it for about £20 an hour. Obviously they're students but supervised - worth a google?

bugs definitely maybe. Or might be like lp they treat to ensure things continue once you are diffed?

Facebook announcement just now of another new baby. The new dad is a dear, dear friend, but it's hard to deal with.

Bugs/Witchy (what do we shorten you to now?) :(

Friends who've been on clomid have said it has quite intense side effects. One found she went quite stabby so her husband hid the kitchen knives... Another found she was compulsively nicking stuff, small things like pens from work etc. So my impression is it messes with your mind quite a bit.

Rie it depends, but typically points in the lower legs relate to your lady bits, apparently. I have also had needles stuck in the top of my head and my hands and over my ovaries and womble.

Bugs most of my friends kids will be out snogging if and when my eventual sprogs are in nappies.

Clomid gave me crazy dreams and a weird mood. And hot sweats. Not a fan, but stuck it out for 8 cycles, with prog > 120 several times, so a touch overstimulated I think (not scanned though, and bloods taken myself, so not really monitored at all)

Pretty much, bugs. The less refined, the better. So generally white carbs=simple, brown carbs=complex.

I'm a big fan of the needles. Like Euro says they definitely do something. My woo woman got rid of my IBS & hay fever, sorted my cycle length out & generally makes me feel better.

Nice answers Evil but Clarkson???

I'm Jethro. Almost 36. Spread Sheet Geek / SSG has some weird chromosome thing going on & I have ovaries of an 80 year old. Didn't find this out for almost 3 years. Little chance of a natural conception so we are (hopefully) starting IVF either this cycle or next.

Hum. I'm also considering adopting a PCOS diet (Jesus wept. How have I come to this?), but have no idea where to start.

So, avoid white bread/pasta/rice? Do I have to stop eating cake? What about rice cakes? They constitute approximately 50% of my diet...

Dairy is bad it seems for PCOS. I considered buying some soy milk, but then realised I eat a yogurt for breakfast most days..

Help wise BESH witches.

Jethro, she seems nice. I was ignoring the Clarkson aberration.

I had acupuncture and found it helpful. Just go to someone who is registered with the British Acupuncture Council - hopefully at least they won't be complete cowboys then.

Oh non-floating-hag, they say a low GI diet is best for us PCOSers. There's been some evidence to suggest that PCOS is linked to insulin resistance.

A curse on all Facebook diffage announcements [cackles]