Trying to conceive after mc? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Recently graduated from the mosh pit? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake! Part

[Dorita75]

Hi, thought I'd start the new thread. This is a brilliant thread for anyone trying to conceive or who has got a bfp after mc, full of lovely ladies, fab advice and a lovely place to metal, so called because someone said metal instead of mental and the rest is history......

Midget - may be slightly TMI but I was very constipated after my section and ended up with an anal fissure - which is a tiny but very painful tear that bled intermittently. Took several months to heal completely. Prevention definitely better than cure!

And welcome to the newbies Kat and little pink.

Glad everything's settling down Confused. Just enjoyed one of your lovely croissants!

Martha - hope you're ok. X

Another one snorting at 'womble area' - love it!

wombleowner uh, I mean, wilde cramping in early pregnancy is actually pretty normal - particularly, in my personal experience, as you get a little older. Obviously, if it's horrendous, then that may be cause for concern but otherwise it's most likely a lot of poop bothering your womble I hope it's all ok and that you get some relief from all the back-up soon! (just had a flashback to IQ and her constipation woes!)

midge and jaffa - you will recall that I hadn't bought anything before DS3 and only forced myself washed DS2's stuff for the baby to wear a few weeks before he was born. I knew he was coming... I just didn't know he was coming. It's a weird way to feel (or, not feel, as it turned out for me... such was my denial) and not fun. I can't really offer any advice on how to stop late metalling because we cope the way we cope. Just just to say - I know. You're not crazy or alone in these responses.

marrf My lovely. I'm glad it went 'well' and I hope the testing will give you some answers that will help in your quest. I regret refusing the PM (and forgot to say that to you prior). Hey, did you move yet? Just wondering if numbnuts and his noisy copulation might be something you can escape soon...?

moomin I don't see why they wouldn't check on your cervix? Worth a punt.

Gah, gotta go.

how are the cramps today wilde?

I have an appointment with my consultant on thursday but dh can't come so i am taking my mum - that should be fun! i hope everything is ok or i don't know how she will react. she is usually worse than me. not sure if i will be having another scan but i expect they might do one.

my midwife came to visit yesterday and she is really nice. she is coming back on friday to do the booking in stuff so that will be four appointments in a week - i hardly have time to go to work lol! dh is self employed so he is pretty good at coming to appointments usually but i think four in one week was a step too far!

confused glad everything has settled down

Have rang the mw and doesn't look like I'm going to get any joy out of her! She has offered to check the hb at my appointment on thurs to put my mind at rest not sure how she thinks that will make a difference

Have rang some private places and non offer cervix scans, so no joy there either. Dp is going to pick up my progesterone later and I'm going to start it tonight. Consultant said to start it at 18 weeks which is weds but I know some people start it at 14 weeks so it's allright to take earlier.

Afternoon,

Moomin I have had two scans to check my cervix. Think one was EPU and one was when I bled at 16 weeks - I can't understand why you can't get one on the NHS in view of your history - have you tried via your GP? Normally useless in my experience but worth a punt maybe if you are drawing blanks elsewhere. This postcode lottery business really gets my goat.

Jaffa I think we are at the same stage of metalling. It does get easier but also more scary in equal measure. The movements and the viability and all those things improve some elements of metalling but then the fear and the real horror of anything still going wrong despite all of these milestones can be crippling. Like many a wise woman on this thread has said - until they are in our arms we may not really believe.

manda Thanks for your reassurance that our mentallness if normal. I remember your lack of preparation only too well. I took moomins advice and went in for monitoring today. Of course the baby woke up instantly but they were so kind to me and didn't make me feel like a lunatic. They said with my history I could go in whenever I fancy and I do find their chairs very comfy. I still don't believe really. I still can't shake the feeling that something will go wrong. I have purchased a baby grow though so I maybe making small baby steps towards reality. It was this stage that my PE went crazy last time so I think I am just extra cautious about any little warning sign. However, so far no sign of it so I may escape its evil clutches this time.

Confused Hope you get some joy from your midwife.

Pebs Hope you are finding reassurance in all your medical attention - I know it made me feel a lot calmer, although finding the time sounds like it could be challenging, especially with your extra midwife app's. I gave DH time off for good behavior for some of the midwife apps.

Wilde hope your cramps have subsided. And of course I meant trapped wind not trapped wine. Trapped wine is just wrong.....

Kat Welcome in to the mosh pit - you are amongst friends here.

jolly Thanks for the TMI - think I have already had one of these which has passed but think it is being replaced by lots of other unpleasant issues in my womble area. Pregnancy is terrifyingly unglamorous sometimes or all of the time in the last trimester

Martha still holding you tight - hope I haven't squeezed too hard. Thinking of you a lot.

Right best go do some bloody work I suppose. Huge waves to you all.

Just had the chance to log on and catch up after 2 wks away then first week back at school. Am not much of a poster on here, but a dedicated follower.

martha I am so sorry that you and DH have been dealt this blow. Your strength and honesty are inspirational, and I am glad that you and dh have reached a decision to try again at some point. Thank you for staying on the thread too - your comments and advice are always valued (says me from personal experience of the VIP area, ushered in by you).

To all the newbies, sorry you find yourselves here, but you will be well looked after - it's a lovely place here with very wise women.

Can't believe that some of you, midget and jaffa, are in the 3rd trimester. When I joined, you were approaching 10 weeks or so. Time flies.

Things plodding on here. Still metalling about movement, or lack of it, but all things SPD considered, we're fine.

wombleowner - hi wilde congrats on the bfp (and the constipation!)

glad everything was ok today midget

it is a bit of a pain to get to all the appointments but i don't like going on my own so do like dh to come really. my mum is ok but she isn't very strong so it will make it worse if there is any bad news. luckily my boss is being very understanding about the time off. i have run out of holidays this year but they start again next month so i will probably book a few days off for appointments so i am not totally taking the piss.

i went to a 16 week midwife appointment on my own as everyone at work kept telling me i don't need to take dh everywhere and the midwife couldn't hear the heartbeat on the doppler and sent me to hospital. never again! i can probably manage my booking in appointment on friday on my own.

Am driving myself slowly mad. Have had quite sore boobs last few days which I only ever get if pregnant . aF due tomorrow - 2nd cycle after mc. But did 2 early response tests yest and today both BFN. Why is mother nature so cruel at times?
martha woke during the night thinking about you x

hey lovely ladies and your respective wombles

Thank you all so much for yesterday, I really appreciate you taking the time to treat my worries seriously even though I know we are all sniggering knowing that I think wind is actually my baby I am anive to the oddness of bowels! Wait till I start feeling 'kicks' at 7 weeks... hehe. manda maybe it is an age or third pg thing? I didn't have cramping hardly at all with DS that I remember but maybe i just was more relaxed with his pregnancy. Anyway, the cramping has gone (YAYAYAYAY) and I can be found working at home and cuddling my lactulose bottle :). Am seeing dr tomorrow for the 'hey am pg' chat which frightens me as this is when it all went wrong last time, but if she says it sounds good and healthy so far I will be over the moon.

Ah lovely jaffa and midget. You will have your babies and you will be such loving mamas. You can get the clothes as and when, didnae fret. I don't know about you but atm I feel pregnant, but not pregnant with a BABY. I don't know if it will click if I see a baby on a scan or will take longer.

moomin sorry to hear your MW clearly not listening to you. You might have to be a pita and keep badgering her. This kiid of thing is really what they are there for :(

trapped wine is indeed wrong midget. All wine should be liberated!

confused glad your spotting has gone!

oooh i am excited - i know kat vairy well, we went through so much with our first DCs conception and birth (her DH texted me the night her DD was born and i cried! although i was 38 weeks at the time!). She has been through a rollercoaster too, and much much more importantly, has missed a vital point for this thread she makes the most amazing cupcakes we have never met but i have seen them on FB and they look eminently suitable for our mosh pit - good to see you on here

arf at Manda - no we didnt move house (the BFP put that on hold ) however we are now all systems go and are going to make arrangements to get the house on the market pronto, just need to get me better then will go for it. We have identified a decent area to move to, where we can afford the extra bedroom just in case we have another baby bambino so yes - the shagging Mr Lover Lover (urgh) will be no more. Seriously, midget when you said you would belly slap him - well - urgh - he has a big belly to slap IYSWIM - he is rank

Manda the Bereavement MW is coming over tonight to go through the Post Mortem forms, we are actually all for doing this now, a complete UTurn from last week. We also really want to TTC again (although DH also wants to go skiing for a long weekend for my birthday in Jan!!) Plenty of time for that yet though.

confused so glad that your womble area is settling down, and you are really spoiling us with fresh coffee and croissants

jaffa and midget i totally understand your metalling, and i do recall manda practically being in labour when nipping into mothercare for some bits (along with some random measles witch doctor remedies)

wilde glad your bottom area is showing signs of just being baby pregnancy hormonal stuff

speaking of bottoms TMI alert

The MW gave me some antibiotics yesterday just in case i got an infection, she also gave me a butt-plug pessary to insert into my bottom i asked her what that was for - she said 'just a top up of the oral anti biotics - you dont have to take them but, well you know, bigger things come out of your anus'

shall i take it? i think the entire placenta came out as the MW was confident on saturday, i have taken the oral tablets. The MW offered to stick it up my arse for me but i declined politely and said i would do it myself - she did leave me some gloves and anal gel

Discuss...........................

haha - i spotted midgets trapped wine too - liberate the vino

unless i was dying i wouldn't be sticking anything up there martha!!

when i had the last couple of operations (erpc and hysteroscopy) they stuck one up there while i was under GA. i had shooting pains the next day ouch!

kat was your baby's eye permanently damaged by the ventouse?

I don't know Martha I've stuck some up for pain before which were lovely, what an odd thing for me to say!

I had iv ab and oral ones, no bum ones and was fine. Maybe phone the hospital and ask if you can get away with not doing it?

moomins you little minx

the MW said i didnt have to take it - it was just a precaution - i shall ditch it then!

For some reason I keep loosing this thread so marking place.

Is there room for another newbie? We've been trying for dc2 this year and only managed 2 mcs so far. First was at 8 wks and was quite philosophical about it and then latest was at 12 wks and rather knocked me for six. Trying to make the most of not being pregnant... getting fit and drinking (not at the same time!) but actually desperate for a sibling for ds.
Been inspired by some of the success stories and courage shown amongst you ladies.

Was the deal with symptom spotting on this thread? It's just I've got really awful thrush and dr google says this means I've either got AIDs, diabetes or am knocked up.

I'm having some blood taken tomorrow to check iron levels. I know thus is such a non-event but it just totally reminds me of everything.

Work is shit too. I should have been nearly ready to go on mat leave :(

Glad the cramps have gone a bit Wilde. Love womble area!

Martha, would you like me to drop kick the shagger?

Hi all, am i allowed to join. Am trying to conceive no.1 cycle 6. Had a miscarriage 5 years ago and was too upset / couldn't face it happening again to try again then. Am currently in the the wrong side of the middle of the dreaded 2ww! and symptom spotting like crazy.

Hello buzzy and poco welcome!

snork I usually get thrush when pg or on ab

wilde it only clicked for me when I felt her shoulders slide out I was like OMG she has shoulders and then she was here. I have no idea why shoulders make a baby more real than a head especially when it is already hanging half out of your womble.

Ah, Martha, I really am sorry you have had to go through this but you sound so very strong and secure in your decisions and the process, it is amazing to see/read. You know we had a PM for mini-toe and that was the right thing for us and it enabled us to feel confident in the next pregnancy, which was already underway of course. It will be okay, in the long run, but right now it is going to be totally shit. I am sorry.

Welcome to all the new members, sorry you found yourselves here, but this is the best place to be.

25+1 now, mild metaling still occuring but getting excited too. But still not making the connection with all the prep and being pregnant to an actual real baby joining us, it just feels like I'm pregnant, and that's ok, but getting a baby seems a bit unreal, does that make sense?

Welcome buzzy and poco, grab a seat and a cupcake from the VIP area

missc I love you philosophy, it is totally shit right now, but the bereavement mw called round tonight and went through all the testing procedures etc. We feel confident that all bases will be covered, and we want to donate our boys organs to medical education which will be arranged.

However I am so delighted you have your beautiful DD in your arms

Sorry just a quickie as on phone, speak tomorrow

Morning all

Martha - good to hear you're doing 'ok'. Glad you're being well supported - I didn't realise that bereavement midwives existed. What a stressful but important job.

Welcome to poco and buzzy.

Well it's coming up to 4 weeks since my miscarriage and I can't believe i'm thinking about when to POAS. My period would have been due this Friday but am assuming it will be late given this is the WTF cycle. I've a feeling that I may have ov'd last week based on my CM and so I'm going to try to be strong and not test until at least the end of next week if AF doesn't arrive.

Had an amusing incident at a family christening at the weekend. My step dad handed me a parcel that had been delivered to their house. Everyone was looking at me expecting me to open it but I knew it was a huge batch of cheapie pregnancy tests . (selected wrong address on amazon) . Was very hastily stowed under the buggy.

Who else is in the 2WW?