Trying to conceive after mc? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Recently graduated from the mosh pit? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake! Part

[Dorita75]

Hi, thought I'd start the new thread. This is a brilliant thread for anyone trying to conceive or who has got a bfp after mc, full of lovely ladies, fab advice and a lovely place to metal, so called because someone said metal instead of mental and the rest is history......

can you get an early scan scared that might help to put your mind at rest a little bit.

Hi pebs I really don't want one I won't even tell my doctor as the last 2 times I told him the week after I started to bleed! My mc in may was a silent one had to go to epu 4 times running every Monday for a month to sit and wait and see no heartbeat week after week! I'm sick of the place it has a lot of bad memories! The other reason is you hear at 6 or 7 weekspeople see a heartbeat and everythingp fine then they lose at 10 or 11 weeks anyway which is my dreaded time in which I lost the last 2 so its false hope I could do without plus I don't think I'll believe everything. Is ok until baby is here but will settle a bit after full check scan at 20 but thats15 weeks off thats a long time of feeling this anxious I just can't cope I'm a mess!

Hi pebs I really don't want one I won't even tell my doctor as the last 2 times I told him the week after I started to bleed! My mc in may was a silent one had to go to epu 4 times running every Monday for a month to sit and wait and see no heartbeat week after week! I'm sick of the place it has a lot of bad memories! The other reason is you hear at 6 or 7 weekspeople see a heartbeat and everythingp fine then they lose at 10 or 11 weeks anyway which is my dreaded time in which I lost the last 2 so its false hope I could do without plus I don't think I'll believe everything. Is ok until baby is here but will settle a bit after full check scan at 20 but thats15 weeks off thats a long time of feeling this anxious I just can't cope I'm a mess!

Hi.

I have been lurking for a little while and I was wondering if any of you lovely ladies could help me at all?

I had a mmc diagnosed at my 12 week scan in March followed by an ERPC, then a natutal early mc at about 5 1/2 - 6 weeks in July. I am now about 8+3 weeks pregnant again and am very nervous but saw the baby and a heartbeat at an early scan 2 weeks ago and have another scan tomorrow afternoon.

At my booking appointment earlier this week i was told i'd be given combined midwife and consultant care and asked whether i was taking low does aspirin. I said 'no' as no-one had recommended it to me. The nurse said that women who've had recurrent unexplained miscarriages are recommended to take low dose aspirin. She said that she couldn't prescribe it but because i probably wouldn't get an appointment to see the consultant (who could prescribe it) for a few weeks she'd recommend getting my doctor to prescribe it in the meantime. She also recommended i read the NICE guidelines on it but I can't find any!

So i saw my doctor this morning and she said that it's not a recommendation she'd heard of - she thought the latest guidelines were to only prescribe it if a clotting disorder had been diagnosed through testing after three mc's. She's going to see if she can find any more recent guidelines and call me back later but I'm not hopeful.

What do i do now? DH reckons i should just go to Boots, buy some and take them anyway but I', worried about going against my doctors advice and doing harm to a baby that is hopefully ok.

Any suggestions, advice or links to relevant NICE guidelines would be much appreciated!

Hi Little spade - welcome to the thread. I'm not sure the current guidelines do recommend the use of aspirin in women with recurrent miscarriages without a formal diagnosis of a blood clotting disorder. I've just had a peek at the 2011 RCOG guidelines and they do not advise this.

Having said this I know that a lot of women in your position are advised to take low dose aspirin (either 75 or 150mg daily). A dose which is unlikely to cause harm to the foetus .

Inot sure I've been that helpful - in your position I'd be tempted to do what your DH suggested. At least until you get the chance to speak to your consultant.

Maybe the head in the sand approach is better for you then scared. I need to have regular scans as i can't stand the thought of turning up to a scan and being told the baby died weeks earlier and i didn't know - that happened to me last year at a 20 week scan. it was awful.

scans really stress me out but i need to know if anything has gone wrong ASAP. i think my dh would prefer me to have a head in the sand approach - wait 9 months and see if anything pops out! it really stresses us both out to keep visiting epu for scans.

it is really rare to see a heartbeat then have a mc. probably doesn't sound like it reading this thread but it is. i think after seeing a heartbeat at 8 weeks you have 1% chance of mc - same chance as anybody having a 2nd tri mc.

if you do want a scan is there another epu you could go to? i go to a different ante natal clinic now as i can't go back to the hospital where i was told about the 20 week mc.

my mc's have been later ones as i have a blood clotting problem. i am taking aspirin and injections this time to thin my blood. i will be 14 weeks tomorrow and still feel very stressed out by the whole thing.

littlespade lesley regan (leading mc expert) says she doesn't give aspirin if you haven't been diagnosed with blood clotting problem but lots of doctors seem to think it can't hurt and might help so will give it to women who have mc'd. you can buy it over the counter. it's called baby aspirin and is 75mg dose. i have one every day from bfp. the pharmacy probably won;t sell it to you without prescription if they know you are pg though. maybe send dh in! it can be used for loads of health problems so they won't automatically think it for pg.

www.rcog.org.uk/files/rcog-corp/GTG17recurrentmiscarriage.pdf

Here's the link to the RCOG guidelines

Hello Pebs - glad to hear you're doing ok and that your EPU is looking after you well

As of today I'm in the 2WW. Who's with me??

hey all! welcome scared and little, hope you are ok.

scared this is going to sound really patronising but all you can do is take every day as it comes, hope for the best and tell yourself that today you are pregnant. You will have the scan when it is time and that will be your D Day, until then you can just sit and try and be positive. I know how you feel about lots of shitty scans, I had a blighted ovum and three scans from 6+6 to 10 weeks which all showed the empty sac again and again! I have chosen a different hospital this time so I don't have to go back to that horrid EPU and waiting room. Be well chuck

little I don't know about aspirin. I took it with this baby after 3 mcs (two CPs and one Blighted ovum) and it has stuck so far, but stopped taking it at 5 weeks when I forgot to take some on holiday with me... not taken it since and am in two minds about whether this has been a good decision or not! arf. I am 7+6 so we are due around the same time :)

hope everyone is ok am starving! luckily DS has chicken pox still so we are quarantined and I can't make it to the bakery for me sausage rolls, am going to be the size of a house!

Welcome to all the newbies, your in the best place you can be here.

Anyone else feel a bit neglected by mws? Had my 28wk check yesterday and it was literally BP and quick feel of the bump, which left me uncomfortable, and since wriggler moved when she measured she didn't listen in :( I'm yet to hear the HB.

I love it here your all so lovely I've taken all your comments on board and feel very comforted by you thanks girls!!!

You've almost convinced me to have an early scan I know I. Should just be brave I don't wanna be a head in the stand sticker thats so not normally me I need to just be brave and do it don't I !? Easier said than done though :-/

scared I was the same. Had an early private scan last weekend in the end as I felt I was just pretending everything was ok for fear it wasn't. Had the scan, all was well, cried and giggled for ages and now feel pretty ok that I do have a baby sort of. was worth doing but isn't for everyone. (I had some bad cramping which prompted the scan (cramping was my sign of mc last time, not bleeding) but actually I had just overdone it tramping round italy for two weeks!)

state I haven't seen a MW for this baby yet but I hear subsequent babies are not treated like the first. My first bubs' care was magnificent, I loved it and always had a listen in? I would ask for one this time too, that sound is amazing and it must be important for MWs to help mothers and fathers with bonding etc. Am cross for you!

Thanks wild thats lovely I may just do it now be brave still won't be totally relaxed until its here though

How ? Where and how much is a private scan I really don't want to go to my epu and there's no other hospital near me :-(

type private scan and your area into google. I paid £69 for mine with the lovely but hideously titled 'meet your baby' (can only bloody hope so!) though some charged up to £140!

state i felt really neglected by midwifes in the past. i am so glad my area has the special miscarriage midwifes to help me now.

is there anyway you can get another appointment with the midwife or can you only have the basic number of visits.

scared don't feel under pressure to have a scan if you don't want one. i don't think there is anything wrong with the head in the sand approach!!

i think you can get private scans at babybond or maybe other local places. there is a hospital in manchester i found that looks good. i am a bit wary of the babybond places as the waiting room might be full of happy people getting 3d scans and i don't want to sit with them!

All over the place now lol pebs

I'm only 5+1 so got another week or so to decide as I won't have one earlier than 6 prob even more as I couldn't cope with no heartbeat and it may just not start beating till later this is common ah wat a mess lol

scared I wouldn't have one earlier than 7 weeks if I were you, you can easily not see HB at 6 weeks and if you have your dates out could be longer again till you see a HB. TBH it sounds like you just need to sit and have a cuppa and take deep breaths! having a scan won't change the outcome of your pg so waiting won't make any difference. as pebs said there is completely nothing wrong with having your 'head in the sand' - as I said I only had mine because my hand was forced with some odd cm and cramping.

take care, you'll be ok! :)

pebs my waiting room was full of those people and I wanted to cry! I hated them seeing as I was sure they were going to find another empty sac, but they took us to our own waiting room with DS saying it was 'too busy out there'... but I think because they knew of our history it was for privacy. how nice is that?

Thanks wild your lovely, got date night tonight with dh2b can't wait nice relaxing evening chil out and forget about it over a nice meal glass of wine would be nice but can.u have everything lol

scared theres nothing wrong with the odd glass of wine (i hope!!)

I know thats wat dh2b said but I feel sick when I drink when pg not just about safe guarding buba will see how I feel later if I fancy one I will have one but more about getting dressed up and going out alone with no kids woo lol

sounds ace scared, enjoy yourself! I don't want to drink when pg either, makes not being able to much easier! there is a lady on my AN thread though who is seriously craving red wine! eek!

Scared - as others have said if you're going for an early scan I'd wait until you're 7-8 weeks. You really don't want to be in limbo land over whether there should be a heart beat/ foetal pole etc or not.

I was determined not to have an early scan when pregnant after my first MC. I made it to 7+6 and then cracked and booked a scan on a whim for the following day.

It's so so hard to know the best way to approach pregnancy after MC. Do you pretend you've never MC? Do you assume the worst and then anything good is a bonus? If anyone works this out please let me know!

Just a wee hello from me, to see how everyone is doing?

wilderumpus we're days apart with our dates: I'm 7+2.

Because of my previous history (molar pregnancy & MMC at 11.5 weeks) EPU will offer me 2 early scans (usually it's only 1 but because I have these 2 separate issues, she said she'd break the rules) So next Tuesday it will be. I should be 8 weeks by then. Will be gobsmacked if they find anything at all - have never had so few pregnancy symptoms

I'm on aspirin 75mg due to previous PE & hoping it will do me some good in terms of m/c as well.

Have a lot coming up at work/home in the next few weeks - including a family holiday. Every holiday in the last year (well, 2) has been ruined by m/c If it happens again I'll not tell my parents or work as I'd be mortified if the kind ladies at work send another bouquet of flowers.

Trying to feel brave about the scan - but it's not happening!!

I'm in shock - I've got an appointment at the recurrent miscarriage clinic next week!I thought it would take ages to come through.

Now wise moshpitters - what happens now? What did they do on your first appointment - did you have an internal examination or did they just do bloods etc?