Trying to conceive after mc? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Recently graduated from the mosh pit? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake! Part

[Dorita75]

Hi, thought I'd start the new thread. This is a brilliant thread for anyone trying to conceive or who has got a bfp after mc, full of lovely ladies, fab advice and a lovely place to metal, so called because someone said metal instead of mental and the rest is history......

Just a quick one as knackere! Hello new ladies, sorry you're here but lovely to have you.

wilde the nurse I saw on ERPC day told me off for paying for the private scan saying not to do it next time but to contact them if I want reassurance. Know it's not the same everywhere but if you don't ask you don't get

jollyb I'm with you in 2WW! Hopes up already after using preseed this month, must stay calm...

No apple pie advice but have just had Herman the German friendship cake, turned out ok but baking not my forte!

Night all x

Is this the place for me?

I practically lived in the Freak Out room when I was pg with dd, but I can't find it anymore.

Had a mmc (twins) in June/July and an erpc. Trying again now but no luck so far

Can I lurk here for a while?

daisybell this is definitely the place for you. Sorry to hear about your twins and good luck TTC.

Well I'm sat in a dodgy cafe across the road from my local cottage hospital. I went to have my 'why do I keep having miscarriages bloods' and apparently I need to wait another 40 mins so they can be fresh for the courier!

Well at least it's sunny.

Yay dorita fingers crossed for the sperm friendly lube.

I shouldn't really be saying I'm in the 2ww as this is my WTF cycle but we can't but hope!!

daisy you bring bacon - bringers of bacon welcome anywhere. Sorry for your loss - you can freak out freely here.

I am a patient of Lesley Regan and they do indeed say that regular scans improve outcomes. They have no idea why - they think it is just the reassurance side of it but that is why they scan all their ladies every 2 weeks up to a minimum of 12 weeks. They also have this total confidence in your pregnancy from very early on - I found it unnerving but contagious. Even though I had lost pregnancies after seeing strong HB's they never had any doubt from my first HB scan that this one would be ok. Many of you will remember how much this freaked me out at first but then their confidence became contagious. I often wonder if this confidence they transferred to me also plays a part in outcomes. But that isn't very scientific is it? I bloody love her clinic. It is why I am here 34 weeks today. Wilde You deserve a scan so hope you bloody well get one.

Had lots to say but I have forgotten it all. Thinking of going out and buying a couple of things for hospital bag. This is progress.

Morning everyone.

I'm totally freaking myself out and metalling hard and I need a slap that only the metallers can serve me.

I'm 25+2, had a few very active days from baby and now back to what was normal, iyswim, but not as many HARD kicks, still getting regular movement but not as much as it was for a few days. I also broke my kick counter band and that's making it worse. It now feels like the kicks are cushioned, does that make sense. Anyone?

*25+3

State Midwife and Consultant say kick counting is no more according to NICE guidelines. It is about patterns of movements and what is normal for your baby. Think they say from 28 weeks but I could be wrong on that and if you are worried I would ignore that. I have been told if babies pattern is different they would want to check me out. So if you are worried, even if it is metalling then just ring triage or MDU and they will check you out. So much better than driving yourself to distraction. I was monitored twice in the last 7 days because of different patterns and they still haven't got fed up with me. They also told me to go in at any time with the same concerns. Give them a call and put your mind at rest.

Plus of course you know the baby could just be in a different position as they have a lot of room at that stage - but still get checked if worried. x

I saw the bit about from 28wks when googling last night, also that stress can make baby less active and us less sensitive to movements, was pretty stressed past few days and hugely when I think the babys not busy enough, yesterday am, in tesco of all places, I got the biggest movement like I can't describe, it made me double over it was such a shock and feel sick, so I'm pretty sure its switched posistions, its typical though since I've posted I've had 4 big movements and lots of pressure like I normally get so I'm much calmer now. This baby is a little sod, it seems to enjoy messing with me. Or maybe until I wrote it all done I was too stressed who knows, I'm my own worst enemy!

If things go quiet again ill ring midwife straight away. Thanks for the reassurance midge x

Ok make that 10 big movements, think ill leave the mw in peace

yay glad all ok state

welcome daisy, bacon YUM. so sorry to hear about your twins.

midget thank 'ee kindly, I shall take what you say on board :) My pg is progressing wonderfully, lots of healthy cm (ahem, lots) boobs sorer every day and getting fuller, hormonal as hell, twingy here and there if I do too much, tired out, weeing loads... but feel wonderful. This is like my pg with DS and NOT the pg I mc'ed which felt wrong from the off. Terrible headaches, crampiness and dizziness with that one. am 4+5 in this pg, in the mc-pg it was at 4+6 they sent me to EPU the first time because of the cramping, but that wouldn't happen now :) So I know I must believe. I can honestly say I DO believe I am pregnant and all is fine, but CAN'T believe yet that I might have a baby. Is that too weird?! DH started talking about the baby as if we really might be pg last night too which was a real turnaround, so far we have sort of mumbled about how I am feeling etc but not openly been 'yay we're pregnant!'.

Anyway. I must believe all will be fine and take that risk that comes with falling in love again. thanks midget and everyone who has helped me this past week. :) :)

wilde glad to hear you're feeling properly pregnant. I went off coffee big time when pregnant with my daughter and so that is the symptom I'm always looking out for.

Glad baby's wriggling away state.

midget trying to think of some maternity bag top tips. Lots of maternity pads and only a few breast pads. I got the ratio completely wrong last time! Lots of snacks that you are bound to eat before you go into labour. Yoga pants. More snacks.

sounds good wilde i feel like this one might work out as well (kind of!). i am taking my injections and aspirin so i shouldn't get blood clots in the placenta like the second mc. i am not bleeding every day like the third mc. not really sure why i had the first mc as i didn't get tests but i feel like i could have a baby this time.

still get terrified at the thought of a scan though. i might be having one tomorrow as i am going to see my consultant.

Loving all this confidence. I know it can be scary and feels like setting yourself up for a fall and a little bit mental sometimes but it makes the waiting less anxious. Wilde it is just like falling in love again - wipes tear from eye at the thought of you and DH starting to believe. We believed this time round too although I am still in denial just a little bit

State the pattern you describe is my baby to a tee - he loves to wind me up and worry me and then kicks ten barrels of crap out of me when I get to the hospital. He likes to mess with my mind.

AFM, I have just purchased big pants and maternity towels - this is progress. I may even pack a bag by the time I am 37 weeks at this rate.

Glad its not just mine midge I get so worked up and anxious and I know that makes it worse and less likely baby will wriggle.

I was metalling hard as I've been getting organised as with dds birthday and christmas and a new baby in a month all together I have to budget and start now. And was worried I'd pushed my luck by having baby clothes folded in a unit in my room and we just got a bargain change table. But the chances of anything going wrong (mc and still birth) are something like 1 in 2000 after 24wks according to google. Obviously prem labour brings all kinds of other risks but since my elder two refused to be born that's one thing I can't bring myself to panic over even when deep in metalling mode.

Just made myself go all queer, moved our living room around (I didn't lift anything) and scrubbed a wall down (I have a jnr picasso it seems) and went all shaky, hot cross bun and juice and feel a bit better.

Anyway I need to gut my wardrobe out as somehow in about 15wks I need to fit an extra person in my room and my wardrobe doesn't lead to narnia, it contains it!

big pants midge! I loved my big pants after having DS actually. hehe. Have you got a god awful nightie to labour in too?!

exciting times state! am so happy for you :) not about the queer-ness. Hope you take it easy for a bit missy.

Am off to the drs to announce pg and ask about scan... Am really nervous about talking about it out loud to a stranger, and one that is in the know about these things! and a bit excited I have to say :) after last time I just really hope i come back still pregnant!

Good luck wilde :)

Well despite wanting to move house desperatly, I've re-organised and settled down and I'm sucking it up that we'll be here another 6mnths. And also not sure if I've mentioned it, had trouble getting dd a place in nursery, dp finally lost it today when two people near us had visits for dc a year younger than her and rang the head, turns out I'd wrote her year of birth as 2009 not 2008. We have a visit this afternoon

midge arnica tablets really made me more comfortable after having my big two my midwife mentioned them not many do. Also a lovely simple lavendar and camomile shower gel/bubble bath.

just popping my head in, as am knackered after a rather scrumptious lunch date with DH

we had a big discussion about 'fings' and have agreed we def want to TTC again, which we all knew, BUT - DH wants to start immediately we are gonna get the WTF cycle out the way then 'crack on'. manda will be beyond thrilled to know that we headed straight to H&B for £28 worth of Agnus Castus and BVits. However can someone please remind me why i am taking these? as i am a bit fuzzy - i am taking them anyway but i think it is something to do with egg quality or something i am taking folic acid too - i took my first batch of pills at 2pm

wilde i am all a mix of nerves and excitement for your appointment

daisy you are more than welcome here especially-with bacon rolls so sorry about your twins

glad all is looking good

midge i put drops of tea tree oil in my bath, it helped with the csection scarring but my friend recommended it for fanjo stitches too

ah feck it! Had a man dr, and while I KNOW men can be lovely, empathetic beings, this one was NOT one of them. First of all he asked what he could do for me and I said 'I'm pregnant' and he said 'I know! congratulations!' and I said how does he know and it turns out he was looking at the EDD of the baby I mc'ed :( WTF. I had to tell him that baby had died. I was trembling! That really choked me up and set the scene really. We fought over whether to date the pg from LMP which was 2 weeks out as I had a long cycle after a CP, or, as I wanted, from ov. I did not want a 10 week as opposed to 12 week scan, I want a 12 week scan. He finally relented saying we'll make up a new LMP to go with my dates and even THEN he wanted to make up his own date so I have one that says am 5 weeks instead of 4. twat.

Then I asked for a reassurance scan and he patronisingly told me about how that was, actually, what the 12 week scan was for. By then and all of it I was quite upset and just shut up because I didn't want to beg neanderthal man to understand my vulnerability and fear. I asked him about good vs bad cramping and he said 'as I have had so many pg's' - referring to the mc's - I should know what is what in pregnancy. What a twat moron bastard.

Anyway! I know all is well, I haven't got an early scan referral from him but might go and se my nice lovely lady dr when back from holiday anyway just for a cuddle. She'll see me right am sure of it :)

ANYWAY! am going to have a nice cup of tea and chill out.

Amusing bit is that my BP was quite high, which is never is (in fact it is usually low) but the situ, and then him being a twat had clearly wound me up!

sorry for me, me, me. big love ladies.

Well, lots of 'nice' metalling going on, I see - the whole starting to believe, starting to prepare

Egads, wilde I'm so sorry - what a knobber. Have you checked whether your epu is a self referral one?

manda it isn't wishing anything or anyone away. It's a complicated business. I hope you are ok.

will call epu at the ne hosp I will be seen at to see if can self refer when I get back from hols. so annoying having to do all the admin and explaining myself though, going through it all again to a stranger you know? But you gotta do! Might just go private anyways :)

not sure if I will be back on tonight but am off for holidays tomorrow so will 'see' you all in two weeks! Babies and mums better behave while I am gone, nothing more than the requisite plodding along, and I would love some new BFPs please!