TTC or pregnancy on prednisolone or similar part 9

[sarahs999]

Oh dear - we reached 1000 posts on thread 8 without noticing! I hope you can all find this. THis is a positive thread for all those diagnosed with High or Very High NK Cells and looking to start TTC or already pregnant on Prednisolone and/or Intralipid treatment.

Newcomers very much welcome!

Links to earlier threads:

Part 8: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/a1492407-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-8#33842381

Part 7 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1452035-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-7

Part 6 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1419032-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-6

Part 5 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1391787-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-5

Part 4 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1366323-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-4

Part 3 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1348773-TTC-pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-3

Part 2 here www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1323594-TTC-pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-2

Part 1 here www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1236324-TTC-pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar

Hi cartoon, how are you? Huge congrats if you're getting married. How are you doing on the steroids? Sorry I can't remember what stage you're at of treatment at the moment...

I'm on my third round of steroids and am feeling very wound up and emotional. Am testing this week and so far negative but am only 9dpo, but am not holding out much hope. Am feeling very depressed and desperate for a baby. Usually pregnant very quickly so am getting worried now that the steroids are affecting ovulation.

Re your wedding day, are you worried that you'll be worried about things going wrong or struggling on your meds v being pregnant making you really happy on your wedding day? Its a tough one for people like us, sorry I haven't been much help have I!

Hello everyone else, hope you're all doing ok...

x

Hi cartoonface, Personally I don't think I would want to be. In fact if I had the choice I'd probably take the month off taking the steroids and hold off on TTC that month. Each, on their own have a huge effect on how you feel physically and emotionally so combined you just don't know how you would be on the day. The pred makes me very edgy and agitated and also really wobbly and shaky and has given me some absolutely cracking headaches that painkillers won't shift. Pregnancy also makes me feel shaky and tired, and you don't know if you will have MS or not. All in all, not the best recipe for a wonderful wedding day!

Then again, I would have the age issue like sarah so it would depend on how many months it would mean having to put it off. Mind you, I'm a confirmed "living in sin" kind of girl for now so it wouldn't be an issue.

Thanks for answering! I know it probably sounds very trivial but I'm really struggling. We booked our wedding for may next year. We did it after the first mc to give us something to focus ono (at the time) squeezed in a baby fingers crossed. I got pregnant in may but lost that one too. I have not yet started on the roids. I'm 27 and we fell pregnant quite quickly both times. Waiting until may just seems such a long way off. So wondering whether to just wait a few months and start TTC in say Jan so I won't be too far gone. But as has been pointed out being earlier than 12wks could have me feeling not at my best shall we say. Im even thinking of bringing the wedding forward to December this year so its not as long to wait. I'm finding it hard to be patient after 2 mcs and particularly now I have the treatment plan I kind of want to just get on with it.

cartoon I can understand just wanting to get on with it esp when you've had mcs. Moving the wedding forward to December sounds like a good plan to me, you could get totally excited about the wedding and then start again on the treatment plan straight afterwards...

I have total roid rage, I'm not used to it as have been ok for the past two cycles but feel horrendous this cycle. Am hoping its because I'm pregnant but am really not holding out much hope. kittens I'm feeling just like you described so its good to know that's normal on the pred.

abney if you're on here is everything ok with you now?

sue nothing i say can help i know, i was shocked when i read your post from friday, I'm so so sorry you and your husband have been put in this position , what ever you decide no one will judge and we are all hoping for the best.
snoopy you are my hero , thank you for reminding us to not take everything for granted and to count our blessing , i will say a prayer for you that everything is back to normal asap.

Hi everyone,

Wow, this thread is some emotional reading! The care you all have for each other really shines through. What a wonderful example of how online forums can really work to be supportive and a mine of information. I would like to add my thoughts to those going through difficult times and decisions and congratulations to those with recent happy news.

I am 7 and a bit weeks pregnant at the moment after having had 6 miscarriages since my daughter was born in May 2008. All of these were very early, missed miscarriages (no fetal pole seen on scans) except for the first one which got a little further.

I am seeing Mr Shehata at New Life in Epsom. We have had 2 scans so far which show a heartbeat so we are really hoping that the natural killer cell route is working. Mine were diagnosed very high so I am taking 40 mg prednisolone and will be having second intralipid transfusion next week - if a scan shows that all is still progressing.

Although I am feeling so much more positive than I have before, it is still a difficult road to tread, especially since I am 41 now so all the extra risks that brings, so would really like to join this thread :)

Cate

Sue It is such an awful position to be in and it must be so hard when DH has very clear ideas about what he thinks is the best option. As others have said you just need to be armed with as much information as possible before you reach any conclusions about the way forward. I hope tomorrow's appt helps. Thinking of you. X

Snoopy Your post moved me to tears too - you are an amazing woman and Im so glad the chemotherapy is over. In my job (A&E nurse) I am constantly reminded
how precious life is and how we should all embrace our blessings. It sounds like you and your family (inc kitty Snoopy!) have pulled together through this awful time and I have no doubt this will continue through the rest of your treatment. I wish you all the love and luck in the world, please do drop in from time to time and let us know how you're doing.X

Things appear to be going well here. I have been listening with a doppler every few days and baby's HB always puts a big grin on my face! Still suffering with sickness but hoping that is going to fade away soon! Have quite a sizeable bump already so have given in to the mat clothes - anything to be comfortable!

X-posts Cate Welcome to the thread! Sorry to hear about your losses but congratulations on your pregnancy - you're in the right place for hand holding and advice! Is this your first pregnancy on treatment?

sue My heart really goes out to you, it's such an awful situation you're facing. I understand what your DH is saying but at the same time, I so totally understand your thoughts around what if your baby actually ends up ok with the one kidney. After all, we only need one kidney to live perfectly happily and normally, so it really depends on how much damage is done to the other kidney and how much perhaps it will repair/sort itself out between now and when it's born. I have read so many stories of people being given impossible odds on the BC nuchal/other tests board but then ending up with perfectly healthy babies that I honestly believe anything is possible. I so hope the guys at the John Radcliffe can give you some hope, and please do come here to rant/vent/share, we're all here for you. Huge hugs for you and your wee babe.

snoopy So very happy to hear from you, and what excellent news too, I'm so pleased for you! Now take it easy, one day at a time, look after yourself and please don't be a stranger, I'm certain we'd all like to keep right on hearing from you!

cate A big welcome to you, so sorry for your losses and fingers crossed for the health of your new pregnancy. Successes on Mr S's plan are right here to be seen, let's hope you're one of them!

cartoon I have to say if it were my own wedding I wouldn't stop trying for a baby, but then you have to understand that I have an age factor to take into account. I understand the need for a baby, but if time is thankfully on your side, then as kittens says both weddings and TTC (especially on this treatment) can take it out of you emotionally. Ultimately it's down to what you feel you can handle, best of luck in whatever you choose!

Olives your comment about your doppler also brought a smile to my face. So pleased things are going well for you!

/waves to everyone else, supposed to be working but having a quick read of MN, of course :)

Welcome Cate. I'm 41 too, 5 mcs, and currently 15 weeks pg. Congratulations!

Just popping in to say snoopy your post bought many tests to my eyes and was so lovely to heard from you. I am so glad you are over the worst bit and wishing you lots of luck with the rest of the treatment. You are incredibly brave and strong and should be very proud of yourself. Xxx

Hi Mollieboo I am fine at the moment but still terrified. I haven't seen anything since last Thursday evening ie a bit of pink the size of a penny. It was a bit more than that on the Wednesday hence my despair. Just taking 1 day at a time.

Cate welcome to the thread and sad to see how many losses you have had. I guess as you have had a DD each mc after was a terrible shock. Fingers crossed for this one.

Snoopy really good to hear from you and so pleased your treatment (Chemo) has ended. When people say that they are having chemo I don't think I
Ever appreciated how awful it must be for them. Let's hope that you do get back to 'normality' as quicky as possible. It sounds like everyone is taking really good care of you.

Cartoon I ended up getting married in between MC's. I booked everything within 3 months and was married within 3 months. This was the only way so that it did not get in the way of trying. You are so young you have plenty of time on your side. I think the best thing would be to bring it forward if you don't want to wait that long. I know when you have a mc all you want to do is replace it a.s.a.p so May does seem a long way off.

Good luck to all BFP testors. I am watching eagerly for the next 'batch'.

Abney hope things continue well for you. I still haven't quite got over the constant checking for blood. I know you must be on edge all the time, but things are looking good.

I can only echo what every has said about Snoopy's post - lovely to hear from you and what a thought-provoking post - so glad you have got through the massive hurdle of chemo.

Mercator brilliant news! So glad it has all gone well.
I am looking out for further news from PQ too.

Have noticed a couple of posts mentioning trying to conceive at 41 - just to say that's what I did last year, having LO just before I turned 42. You are not too old!

abney v glad all is settled now for you.

cate welcome to the forum and big congrats on your pregnancy, lots of positive vibes to you. It must be such a worry but excellent news that you've already got further than your previous mc's. Following on from what you said, I'm so glad I've found this thread. I had never posted on a forum before this, its just great to know I'm not alone going through all of this.

Does the list need updating? I'm on a pc so could do it now.

Hope this is right. Cate I've added you too.

Monday, 17 September 2012

The babies are arriving!

Stogan - V high NKC - cycle#2, DC#1, Baby girl Ellyson (DC1) born Sunday (EMCS) 11/03/12 7lb13.5.
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2, Baby boy Franco (DS2) born at 39+0 on Easter Monday, 9/04/12, 8 lbs 12
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks, Baby boy Arthur born at 40+6 13/05/12 3.66kg
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2, baby girl Matilda born DC#2 ? 39 weeks (CS) 14/5/12 7lbs.
Igggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2, DC#2- Baby boy Thomas born (CS) at 38+6 16/5/12
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Intolerant. BFP Clomid cycle#3, DC#1 40+0 - baby girl Amelia born 7/06/12 (CS) 7lbs
Freelance - TTC#1 V High NKC Thyroid/hashimotos - 4mcs (4th on 1st Pred cycle), Hydroxy, Pred, Intralipids, Cyclogest, . DC#1 - Baby boy Sebastian (ELCS) at 39 weeks 17/07/12 8.11 lbs.
Cheerfulcharlie - TTC#1 V High NKC, MTHFR, DC#2/ (metformin, intralipids, no pred). 40+1 wks EDD 24/07/12 Baby boy born 26th July, 7lbs 5. EMCS
batteryhen - High NKC, factor v leiden. DC#1 BFP cycle 3. 38+4
coleyoz - V High NKC. DC#2, BFP cycle2, 41+1 - Baby born??!
FrozenNorthPole - RMC, NKC status unknown, Cyclogest, aspirin. Baby boy James born 29/08/12, 6lb and 6oz at 36+5
PQ77 - DC#2, 2 mcs, then DS, followed by 4 mcs - 6-8 weeks. V High NKC (BFP cycle one but mc) Jonty (Jonathan) Edward arrived by c section 10/09/12 4lb 15 / 2.23 kg 33+1 wks
Mercator - DC#2 V High NKC, (Pred, Intralipids, Cyclogest) 4mcs (1 pre dd, 3 post - all at 6-8 wks) DS arrived by ELCS 14/09/12 7lb 2oz

3rd Trimester

Hopefulfor2nd - High NKC - TTC#2. ? 38+1
Dunnit - V High NKC - , IVIG, Cyclogest and Clexane. 38+1

2nd Trimester

HelterSkelter (IVF and immune therapy) 24 wks
Suemays - TTC#2. DD, followed by 6mcs all 6-8 weeks. V High NKC. Superov but this BFP a natural one. (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine) 21+2
Bertha337 - High NKC, 1 ectopic, 2 mcs, est 17+3
GreenOlives - TTC#2 DS followed by 2mcs, 1 ec, 1 chem. High NKC, Pred from BFP. 17+2 Next scan 5th October
Delta10 - High VNKC, 5 mcs followed by DS Pred baby, 1 further mc. Est 17+2
sarahs999 - DC1 followed by 5 mcs, high NKC (Pred), plus clexane twice daily for Factor V Leiden and Prothrombin, aspirin, cyclogest, intralipids. 14.6 wks
Jemimapuddleduk (33). 3 prev mc's over last 2.5 years between 7-11. Not tested for NK but prescribed 20mg pred, fragmin, asprin and cyclogest on NHS. 13.6 wks

1st Trimester

HavingKittens, 4mcs, 2 TOP TS21, 7th pg, 5th SO Cycle, VHNKC, 40mg Pred, Hydroxy, Intralipids, etc. 10+2, next scan 18 Sept, Nuchal 26 Sept.
Buster - 4 mc. VHKC (pred 40mg, lipids, clexane, cyclogest,aspirin) 8+3
Cate - DD followed by 6 mc, VHNKC 40mg pred, intralipids, 7w

BFPs awaiting first scans
Abney (44), TTC#2, SO 2, 6 MC No pred (2 chromosone, 4 unexplained), 1 DS Pred Cycle 1 & fragmin, 4 MC on Pred (1 fragmin),- super ov 6+3

STATUS UNKNOWN
Hannah77 - DD born 2003, 3 losses 21 wks, 17wks, 7wks. BFP 25th July

TTC ? ASSISTANCE - TTC 2ND or more

Pinkdragon - High NKC. Pred Daughter (after 4 mcs) TTC #2, super ov.
Arianrhod - TTC#2 DD then 5 mcs 5-9 wks (2 on treatment), V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine) ? super ov
Brownstag - V High NKC, 3 yo DS is a Pred Baby! TTC #2 on Hydroxy, -super ov
LJ71 - two older DCs, mc on treatment. SO, pred, hydroxy

TTC ? UNASSISTED - TTC 2ND or more

Iloveblue - under Prof Quenby for HNKC. 2 healthy boys, followed by 20 week loss, 2 early mcs, 15 week loss.
Willitbe - TTC#4 DS, DD, 1 mc, DS2, followed by 11mcs, (5-11 weeks). NKC not tested, TTC #4 (after m/c 12) Fertility cons prescribed pred.
Holldoll - TTC #2 High NKC - Pred, Cyclogest & aspirin. DS followed by 4 mcs, heart stopped around 5-6wk. Mc in March 2012 on treatment. Pred started at BFP.
ScooterChaser - V High NKC - TTC#2 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine)
Mollieboo - 5 mcs, 1 DS (lost my little angel), high NKC - pred, intralipids, aspirin, clexane, cyclogest

TTC ? ASSISTANCE - TTC 1st

Pebbles - TTC#1 High NKC, PCOS, super ov cycle 1 (post IVF - 1 chemical, 1 mc, 2nd chemical on treatment/IVF - SO
duggs1976 - TTC#1 -4 mcs all 7-12 weeks. - TTC #1 ? last chemical on treatment/IVF in April. SO
BellyD - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, TTC#1, 5mcs, SO, hydroxychloroquine
Carebear1 - V high NKC

TTC ? UNASSISTED - TTC 1st

ChoccyPud - V High NKC - TTC#1 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine). April - mc on treatment.
EchoJuliet, awaiting diagnosis, Preg 1 -MC 10 weeks (heartbeat stopped at 6w), mc 20w, mc at 8 weeks (heartbeat stopped at 6.5w)eurochick - TTC#1 High NKC, pred cycle 6, had 3 cycles of Super Ov, now on 2nd cycle of IUI No BFP in 20+ cycles of trying
London - High NKC, April - mc on treatment.
picolina - TTC#1 4 mcs, all around 6 weeks. V High NKC MC on treatment
Lemonsherbet - TTC#1 v high/high NK, Mthfr, thyroid issues, pred 1st trim & Intralipids 2nd on bfp
buster76 -V High NKC, Factor V Leiden.
Gransol - Seven mcs - all losses between 6 & 7 weeks

Oops Mercator I'm sorry I know you had a little girl and I put DS, still getting to grips with forum speak, altered it now! Hope you're enjoying your little bundle of joy x

Monday, 17 September 2012

The babies are arriving!

Stogan - V high NKC - cycle#2, DC#1, Baby girl Ellyson (DC1) born Sunday (EMCS) 11/03/12 7lb13.5.
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2, Baby boy Franco (DS2) born at 39+0 on Easter Monday, 9/04/12, 8 lbs 12
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks, Baby boy Arthur born at 40+6 13/05/12 3.66kg
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2, baby girl Matilda born DC#2 ? 39 weeks (CS) 14/5/12 7lbs.
Igggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2, DC#2- Baby boy Thomas born (CS) at 38+6 16/5/12
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Intolerant. BFP Clomid cycle#3, DC#1 40+0 - baby girl Amelia born 7/06/12 (CS) 7lbs
Freelance - TTC#1 V High NKC Thyroid/hashimotos - 4mcs (4th on 1st Pred cycle), Hydroxy, Pred, Intralipids, Cyclogest, . DC#1 - Baby boy Sebastian (ELCS) at 39 weeks 17/07/12 8.11 lbs.
Cheerfulcharlie - TTC#1 V High NKC, MTHFR, DC#2/ (metformin, intralipids, no pred). 40+1 wks EDD 24/07/12 Baby boy born 26th July, 7lbs 5. EMCS
batteryhen - High NKC, factor v leiden. DC#1 BFP cycle 3. 38+4
coleyoz - V High NKC. DC#2, BFP cycle2, 41+1 - Baby born??!
FrozenNorthPole - RMC, NKC status unknown, Cyclogest, aspirin. Baby boy James born 29/08/12, 6lb and 6oz at 36+5
PQ77 - DC#2, 2 mcs, then DS, followed by 4 mcs - 6-8 weeks. V High NKC (BFP cycle one but mc) Jonty (Jonathan) Edward arrived by c section 10/09/12 4lb 15 / 2.23 kg 33+1 wks
Mercator - DC#2 V High NKC, (Pred, Intralipids, Cyclogest) 4mcs (1 pre dd, 3 post - all at 6-8 wks) DD arrived by ELCS 14/09/12 7lb 2oz

3rd Trimester

Hopefulfor2nd - High NKC - TTC#2. ? 38+1
Dunnit - V High NKC - , IVIG, Cyclogest and Clexane. 38+1

2nd Trimester

HelterSkelter (IVF and immune therapy) 24 wks
Suemays - TTC#2. DD, followed by 6mcs all 6-8 weeks. V High NKC. Superov but this BFP a natural one. (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine) 21+2
Bertha337 - High NKC, 1 ectopic, 2 mcs, est 17+3
GreenOlives - TTC#2 DS followed by 2mcs, 1 ec, 1 chem. High NKC, Pred from BFP. 17+2 Next scan 5th October
Delta10 - High VNKC, 5 mcs followed by DS Pred baby, 1 further mc. Est 17+2
sarahs999 - DC1 followed by 5 mcs, high NKC (Pred), plus clexane twice daily for Factor V Leiden and Prothrombin, aspirin, cyclogest, intralipids. 14.6 wks
Jemimapuddleduk (33). 3 prev mc's over last 2.5 years between 7-11. Not tested for NK but prescribed 20mg pred, fragmin, asprin and cyclogest on NHS. 13.6 wks

1st Trimester

HavingKittens, 4mcs, 2 TOP TS21, 7th pg, 5th SO Cycle, VHNKC, 40mg Pred, Hydroxy, Intralipids, etc. 10+2, next scan 18 Sept, Nuchal 26 Sept.
Buster - 4 mc. VHKC (pred 40mg, lipids, clexane, cyclogest,aspirin) 8+3
Cate - DD followed by 6 mc, VHNKC 40mg pred, intralipids, 7w

BFPs awaiting first scans
Abney (44), TTC#2, SO 2, 6 MC No pred (2 chromosone, 4 unexplained), 1 DS Pred Cycle 1 & fragmin, 4 MC on Pred (1 fragmin),- super ov 6+3

STATUS UNKNOWN
Hannah77 - DD born 2003, 3 losses 21 wks, 17wks, 7wks. BFP 25th July

TTC ? ASSISTANCE - TTC 2ND or more

Pinkdragon - High NKC. Pred Daughter (after 4 mcs) TTC #2, super ov.
Arianrhod - TTC#2 DD then 5 mcs 5-9 wks (2 on treatment), V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine) ? super ov
Brownstag - V High NKC, 3 yo DS is a Pred Baby! TTC #2 on Hydroxy, -super ov
LJ71 - two older DCs, mc on treatment. SO, pred, hydroxy

TTC ? UNASSISTED - TTC 2ND or more

Iloveblue - under Prof Quenby for HNKC. 2 healthy boys, followed by 20 week loss, 2 early mcs, 15 week loss.
Willitbe - TTC#4 DS, DD, 1 mc, DS2, followed by 11mcs, (5-11 weeks). NKC not tested, TTC #4 (after m/c 12) Fertility cons prescribed pred.
Holldoll - TTC #2 High NKC - Pred, Cyclogest & aspirin. DS followed by 4 mcs, heart stopped around 5-6wk. Mc in March 2012 on treatment. Pred started at BFP.
ScooterChaser - V High NKC - TTC#2 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine)
Mollieboo - 5 mcs, 1 DS (lost my little angel), high NKC - pred, intralipids, aspirin, clexane, cyclogest

TTC ? ASSISTANCE - TTC 1st

Pebbles - TTC#1 High NKC, PCOS, super ov cycle 1 (post IVF - 1 chemical, 1 mc, 2nd chemical on treatment/IVF - SO
duggs1976 - TTC#1 -4 mcs all 7-12 weeks. - TTC #1 ? last chemical on treatment/IVF in April. SO
BellyD - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, TTC#1, 5mcs, SO, hydroxychloroquine
Carebear1 - V high NKC

TTC ? UNASSISTED - TTC 1st

ChoccyPud - V High NKC - TTC#1 (Pred & Hydroxychloroquine). April - mc on treatment.
EchoJuliet, awaiting diagnosis, Preg 1 -MC 10 weeks (heartbeat stopped at 6w), mc 20w, mc at 8 weeks (heartbeat stopped at 6.5w)eurochick - TTC#1 High NKC, pred cycle 6, had 3 cycles of Super Ov, now on 2nd cycle of IUI No BFP in 20+ cycles of trying
London - High NKC, April - mc on treatment.
picolina - TTC#1 4 mcs, all around 6 weeks. V High NKC MC on treatment
Lemonsherbet - TTC#1 v high/high NK, Mthfr, thyroid issues, pred 1st trim & Intralipids 2nd on bfp
buster76 -V High NKC, Factor V Leiden.
Gransol - Seven mcs - all losses between 6 & 7 weeks

Thank you everyone! Yes this is my first try on treatment. Trying not to get my hopes up too much - it is such a roller coaster. Feeling more sick this week which is good I guess but was hoping with the steroids that I might get away with it this time! Thanks for including me.

xx

mercator massive congratulations. Fantastic news.

So pleased to see that you are hanging on there abney. Also to see the success the 40 pluses are having. It gives me hope and reminds me that it isn't 'madness' to try for a baby over 40.
cartoon, I'm in the kittens living in sin camp so would personally put the wedding off not the ttc, but I too am in the 'old' league!
Congratulations cate!

As expected, I had a natural mc on Friday night, i managed to retain the foetus for testing. It's amazing what you have to turn into a positive to survive this journey isn't it?? Head and heart are a bit detached at the moment; survival, I suppose. I know I don't need to explain it to you.

sue I have thought a lot about you this weekend. I feel broken for you that you have to face such a hideous situation. If I'm honest it's something I've thought about in trying to have another child...'am I exposing myself to even more agonising loss/dilemma'. I am so so sorry that this is what you now face, and I know how pathetically inadequate those words are but please know they are from the heart. I shall be hoping beyond everything that you gain clarity at your meeting tomorrow. Most of all, I hope that clarity means you can see a future with your baby. This band of strangers is here for you, whatever xx

Welcome to the thread Cate. Sorry to hear of all you've been through. Wishing you the best of luck with this one. You are in very good company here as you can probably see. This thread and all the lovely ladies on it are an absolute lifeline!

Abney, glad to hear you've had no more bleeding. Hopefully, like mine, it was just things "settling in" that caused a bleed. I think the fact that it was watery is a good sign. That's what mine was like.

I'm another one who has conceived at 42 and am pleased to report that this morning's scan showed a good heart beat of 165 and measuring 10+4. Big up Mr Shehata! Or should I say small down Mr Shehata - he seems to have slimmed down somewhat!

Woohoo kittens, what a fantastic scan result! And yes, I thought that when I saw Mr S last Monday, he's definitely lost weight!

Hello everyone, kittens that's wonderful news re your scan :-)

abney so glad everything has settled down for you, what a relief.

sue will be thinking of you today.

I'm off to see Mr S on Saturday for a review after taking steroids, am on my third cycle but was meant to go back after one cycle for a check. I obtained more steroids from my local hospital so I hope he doesn't tell me off for not going back sooner! I will see if I think he has lost some weight!

Am 10dpo today and got a bfn, but its still early I keep telling myself.

xx

Clabbage So sorry to hear that

Abney Great to hear that it has settled, sounds like implantation to me.

Kittens Fabulous news!

Mollie My BFP wasn't until 12 dpo, you've got plenty of time yet! I never went back to Mr S at all after getting my treatment plan - NHS have sorted me ever since!

youve made me smile about mr s's weight he does have a bit of a belly doesnt he!

clabbage well done for being able to do that. i guess some time you do just have to swith to survival mode. i hope that by doing so you will get some answers. take care