Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Recently graduated from the mosh pit? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake! Part ?

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Thought we could do with a new thread since the old one is full.

I have a few little bits (scratch mits, bibs) for wriggler but struggling to commit to clothes and actual important stuff! 16+2, have midwife tomorrow, why am I anxious?

tas sorry about AF. Not self indulgent, we all look out for each other here. What would you think about maybe just leaving the new job for now - other jobs will come up when you are ready and fit to take them? You seem to have a lot on at the mo in your head, maybe just focus on you for a bit then look outside your hole for other stimulation when you are ready? I dunno, but for me when work said to me they would take the pressure off all of a sudden I was able to take stock and think and get myself well. Then I got back to work.

Thank you for your advices, friends. I didn't see my friend though did try to, decided I was being a bit of a silly cow and she probably is feeling bad at this stage of the pg and needs a friend. I should be that friend. Her DS is awful and does hit my DS but I step in now and tell him not to! We generally parent each others kids, is cool mostly but yes, her DS is more terrible than two

glad you feeling a bit better mrspear. You have every right to have meltdowns here and there dearie.

martha your friend sounds awful, get rid. and don't try not to moan, we are different here because we get it. Is when people are smug or ignorant about how amazing it is that they are pg, how fucking lucky they are that everything came together enough to create a spark of life inside them that is growing into a sentient, healthy human being with a particular smile, talents, a zest for life and capacity for love... this is no small thing!

Sex week starts chez wilde tonight! a-woo let's make a baybeeeeeeee...

Ladies,
Not been on here for a couple of months. Last time I was here I was TTC after mc in March, to catch the supposed post mc 3 month fertility window.
I use a CBFM and was going a bit mental over not getting an ovulation reading so I decided to take a break from MN and find some other things to look forward to other than pg....basically get a life outside of TTC

Anyway I got a reading third cycle post mc and amazingly got a BFP just over a week ago....... unfortunately............ another shitting mc just a few days later.

I must have been a lot more prepared for it this time as I feel OK about it. Just accepting it and moving on. Not much else I can do really.

So - both occassions that I've known when I'm ovulating I've got pregnant but both mc happened about the same number of days post ovulation at just over 5 weeks. Does anyone have a similar experience?

I'm seeing my doctor tomorrow as I'd like to know what my options are for moving forward. I expect I won't get referred unless I have another mc but I'm 36 in a couple of weeks and she's very proactive so we shall see...

If anyone has had a similar experience and has been referred for treatment or given practical advice which has/hasn't worked, I'd really like to hear about it.

bottle sorry to hear about your mc again. i have had three and have been for tests at liverpool womens hospital. i also had tests at my local hospital after second mc as it was a late one. i have also had some tests at raj rai's clinic in london. they have all been testing me for blood clotting problems as i had blood clots in the placenta after late mc. i am now ttc and will be taking asprin and heparin to help with the clotting when i get bfp.

i am wondering if you have ablood clotting problem or an immune problem like natural killer cells which attack forgien bodies (the baby in this case). have a look on the mc board for more info on this. it seems you cannot get nhs testing/treatment for NKC as it's a newish theory but you can pay for private testing with siobhan quinby and hasan shehata.

There is a lady called LAF77 on the recurrent mc testing thread in the mc board who had similar mc's to you if i remember correctly - she has a baby now.

tbh if you can afford it i would pay for private testing now rather than go through a third mc. even if your gp refers you they might not do the full range of tests available until the third mc.

On another note, as some of us are getting bogged down in the crap of ttc, pg etc do you have anything else to concentrate on? obv's lots of you have children to worry about but i don't so i try to find other things. this year i am concentrating on doing a property development with my dh. we are saving up for the deposit at the moment and planning, researching etc. watching homes under the hammer!! we already have a rental property which was fun to do up so i am looking forward to doing it again later this year. also, loads of couple on these house programs seem to have a baby when they go back to do the follow up!

pebs my cycles can go on for months when I'm not on Clomid. This is the longest Clomid cycle I've ever had though, which makes me think it hasn't worked.

possom - congratulations!!

midget Yay!!

Sorry AF found you polka

wilde I know that feeling - sometimes self-preservation is all you can do, and that's ok. I'm sure there will be plenty of times when you feel able to be happy for her again.

Bottlered sorry to hear about your recent MC :( My last 2 miscarriages both happened around the same time - just after a hb on early scan (around 8-9 weeks)

Sorry I haven't namechecked everyone. This week I am being frustratingly unproductive, despite having an appeal case to prepare for next Monday. Now I'm (counts on fingers) CD43 I think, still no sign, need to buy some more internet cheapies as there's no way I'm doing a bored-so-what-the-hell-I'll-POAS test with my last remaining CB digital! If and when AF does decide to grace me with her presence I probably ought to get to the GP to be re-referred back to hospital. Ludicrous that I will have to go through all the investigations again when I know what's wrong with me but hey....

I really ought to be counting my blessings though as my friend who has had years of reproductive system problems and bladder infections has just undergone a hysterectomy despite being broody for more children, why the hell am I moaning about my cycles?

tits I'm the same with exhaustion, could not get to sleep last night and today felt awful just wanted to sleep in asda today!

Thanks pebs
I'll look up your suggestions.
I think I've heard the over active immunity thing - killer cells mentioned before, but that could be in relation to first pregnancy mcs.

Keeping fingers crossed that it's just shit-luck and not a pattern of how things are going to be, but i'd like to be prepared just in case.

x

twolittlemonkeys Sorry to hear about your mcs. Must be harder to take after hb.

thanks wild I think, on reading your reply, that is what I want to do, but my normally dynamic character is beating myself up about it. Thanks for listening.

bottle so sorry about your mc, hope you get some help from your doc

pebs property dev sounds good (I'm also a "homes under the hammer" addict - I've had a couple of days to myself lately and my main pleasure has been looking forward to that!)

monkeys you're allowed to moan about your cycles or whatever you want! I've always tried to look on the positive side and you end up saying things like " at least I don't live in Afghanistan", which is all well and good, but you're allowed to feel your grief/pain/loss, it doesn't just magically go away because someone else is suffering somewhere.

tits hi again! and state hope you're getting lots of rest!

Afternoon all, just a quick one from me so sorry for not name checking... I'm off to France in the morning for just over a week, just to explain my absence! I'll never be able to catch up with you all when I get back, but I'll try! Have a good week x

Hello Ladies,

Thought i would join in this thread now that i have finally stopped bleeding 2 weeks after my ERPC for a Missed Miscarriage.

I have a few questions:

Would i be fertile right now- even though i have not had a period since my ERPC?

When i conceived in April, i was taking Clomid- if i TTC this cycle, without Clomid, im worried im lowering my chances- has anyone been in this situation?

I am seeing my Dr in 2 weeks for results and will ask him then about giving me Clomid again... but im apprehensive to even TTC without it right now!

should i take a fertility prediction test- or will my hormones still be messed up from the miscarriage? Not sure if it will be accurate...

Any advice would be great! Thanks xx

cah and bottle im so sorry to hear of your losses devastating.

You'll see from other (more knowledgable posters) that it dies happen for some lucky ladies in the WTF cycle. Hugs

Fuck, I mean does not dies??? Talk about clumsy typing

cah you are in what we call the WTF cycle. anything can and does happen!

to get a better idea of where you are in your cycle you could wait until first AF and take it from there. you could also try ov sticks or temping as well.

you could get pg this cycle but it may not happen as some women don't ov in this wtf stage. i have waited between five and twelve weeks for af to return after erpc so i know i wouldn't have ov'd two weeks after erpc. but everyone is different hence WTF!!

ps take a pg test to see if it is negative before you ttc. it took weeks for the pg hormones to leave my body last time. you don't want to ttc and get a bfp only to find out it was leftover hormones. you won't ov until the hormones have left your body either.

Hi everyone.

Haven't been on MN much as trying to control my metalling...unsuccessfully! Had a quick catch up and glad to see lots of good scans , some bfps , and some decisions made - and that the excellent advice continues to be offered to newbies (sorry to see you here, but you are in sympathetic company).

I was sent for another reassurance scan last Weds by dh. It went fine, nuchal fold was too early to be measured accurately but looked thin and a nasal plate was seem, and I was dated at 11wks exactly although my lmp dates suggest I was only 10+2. Obviously a long baby... Next scan 23/7 when back from holiday.

Spent several happy days getting ready for holiday and then my lovely SIL phoned yesterday in tears. She was about 3 wks behind me. She was bleeding...and you know the rest. MC confirmed today. I feel SO desperately for her. Not sure what to do as I suspect I am one of the few she knows who has had a mc, but now I am pg again. When I had mc I didn't want to be near or speak to pg people. All those stupid, trite phases keep coming to mind, and I know she's had a few reeled off already; have just said I am on the end of the phone if she needs me (we are not local unfortunately).

And my metalling has increased x-fold. Selfish, but it has. Sorry for me, me, but needed to tell someone who'd understand my sorrow for SIL, but metalling for my situation.

echo pebs cah. AM so sorry to you and bottle and hope you are both ok. Definitley don't ttc before getting a BFN! what a headfuck not knowing if you are pg or just leftover hormones from the mc!

pebs while I am ttc I am now focusing on getting fit and finishing my uni course. I am now trying to fit ttc in around that, rather than the other way around (NOT in the constantly dtd sense! boringly, in the obsessing sense). I love that you are doing houses up, that seems lovely and hands-on and creative; I spend way too much time on my own, in my own head.

have fun on holiday backward!

hmm tas but even us dynamic types need some time off once in a while. Saying that though I didn't give myself a break post mc until the dr signed me off and told me in a very stern voice that I was not allowed to work for the foreseeable. Sometimes you just need to be told so you give yourself a break. I suppose get the application form out and if you fill it in, you fill it in, and if you don't, don't beat yourself up about it?

I saw my pg friend in the end and had a lovely time (her DS did kick mine etc as per. grrrr, I stepped in like mary fucking poppins all sing song voice, am so annoying) and in the end fed both kidlings their tea and offered to look after said son when she goes into labour. eek! I don't know how I will manage that, he is a really scary, aggressive and demanding little person whirlwind. I do feel like i have atoned for my Bad Thoughts though and am a nice person again instead of selfish.

DH came home early and has taken DS out! am in heaven and wondering what mischief I can get up to in this unexpectedly peaceful time :) Annoyingly all I want to do is eat!

Hi mrspear just wanted to say feel free to message me I have had 2 stitches now as I have an incompetent cervix and am expecting again (just) and I have to have a stitch no choice but as I have done it twice feel happier but am here if u need any hand holding or advice of what to expect x

hey ice we x posted earlier. Am so sorry to hear about your SIL. You must feel very awkward and it must bring back your own feelings after your mc, and remind you how fragile pregnancy is. I hope you are ok and what brilliant news about your scan! :)

Ice you are unlikely to say the wrong thing to your sister in law as you have walked in her shoes. and you are not an arse like Martha's friend

cah sorry you are here but you are in good hands god how many times I have typed that? Where Is my magic wand that stops people having MC's? my one (so far) successful pregnancy was in the WTF cycle. I believe in its power!

Right best go pass out and eat chocolate.

Hello ladies. I've been lurking for a while and thought I'd introduce myself properly. Had a mmc in May, then started ttc on the wtf cycle but AF got me first after 5 weeks! Wasn't actually that disappointed though as I was relieved to see everything hopefully back to normal. So this is my first proper cycle post-mc and we are ttc-ing again, although I think I may have ov'd last week when we were having a stupid argument and didn't dtd so am hoping we haven't missed our chances...I have 20 month old ds already and so want him to have a sibling. TTC is all I can think about right now (well, just being pg really) so am so hoping it happens for us soon. Looking forward to more chats with you ladies!

bottle sorry to hear about your losses. I hope you get some answers from your doc, fingers crossed.

cah this is the WTF cycle, anything can happen. I mc'd at 7 weeks and ov'd again (I think - didn't bother to test) about 18 days later. Was then a couple of days late starting AF from when I thought I would but no boob soreness so knew I hadn't caught then. Quite a few people do, though.

Hugs to everyone, dipping in and out atm.

Tas and Pebs I thought it was doing the deed but that could be complete rubbish!

I have been the same about taking opportunities since my MMC. We were planning to move house when I was pregnant, but now I am terrified of anything changing and we have had to pull out. Similarly, I should be looking for a promotion in my career, but I daren't, I feel like everything has to stay the same and safe until the world has been righted! I am also worried about starting a new job and losing my amazing maternity pay rights...what a minefield!

Midget I think there might be something in your theory, my mate got pregnant a month after she gave up trying! We called it sods law but it probably was because she relaxed a bit! Easier said than done though, as you pointed out.

Pebs have a great holiday!

Backward Sorry, hope your holiday is fab too! I replied to the previous page and missed out loads of people...sorry! What an idiot!

Bottle lurch and Cah sorry you are here, but welcome! The ladies on here have really helped me and on an average day this is the only place I get any sense!

I have abandoned the bourbons today in favour of jam doughnuts...they are so nice! Why don't people eat these all the time for every meal??!?!?? Oh yeah. Now my trousers won't button up.

Thank you all for informing me about WTF cycle! I have defo got 'due on' symptoms- sore boobs (which is bringing back pregnancy memories) and verrrrry moody (something i haven't been since i conceived in April)... so i am assuming nothing will happen until after this period appears, if it appears, my Grandpa died on Friday so added to the already stressed and deflated mood i've been in i'm not sure i will even get a period this month!