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Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Recently graduated from the mosh pit? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake! Part ?

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backwardpossom · 04/07/2012 09:47

Thought we could do with a new thread since the old one is full.

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Midgetm · 28/08/2012 20:18

manda I lick you. How you getting on? I am 32 weeks and starting to believe although like jaffa says still metalling.

wilderumpus · 28/08/2012 20:22

wtf state?! And I thought the vit D thing was something all GPs/midwives were supposed to be on message about at the mo?! I sincerely 'chuh' for you. Can't help tho, am afraid Hmm am useless!

and I chuh for you miggle. Do they mean you weren't in the system yet so as far as they are concerned you weren't pg?! Omg. how indecent of you to mc before you had even had a scan. 'computer says no', eh. :(

webminx · 28/08/2012 20:22

Thanks so much for all your comments and welcome - especially Jaffa! I've been reading back through the thread and think you are all very brave for coming through the other side!
I didn't have any tests done - the early pregnancy unit at hospital were lovely and very supportive but said there's nothing offered unless I miscarry 3 or more times. I miscarried at 11 weeks - baby had apparently died at 9.5 weeks. Went to A&E with some bleeding, they tested my blood and said pregnancy hormone levels very high so unlikely I had miscarried - come back during week for a reassurance scan. Scan later in the week showed I had, in fact, miscarried. Took the pessaries etc. a couple of days later and after a week thought the MC was complete as bleeding had almost stopped but turned out it wasn't quite over and at work 2 weeks later, clots etc. reappeared. Subsequent scan showed a "stubborn mass" which then took its time to come away. Was all a bit traumatic. Glad to finally be coming out the other side but WTF cycles are so rightly named! Have no idea where I am - just hoping for the best. Mother and MIL keep telling me I might be unable to maintain the pregnancy hormones or don't have sufficient oestregen (?!) which could have caused the MC. Read the Miscarriage book on recommendation of other lovely MNer and this all sounds a bit nonsensical, so am trying not to murder both of them and just nod & smile.
Apologies for the essay!

Quicksie · 28/08/2012 20:41

Hi Everyone! Back from sunny Scotland...we had a lovely time and whilst I was away, I finally stopped spotting everyday, after four months! So webminx rest assured that you are not the only one with e WTF cycle of length!

lurcher I hope the scan went well....from what I have been told, six weeks is that dodgy time when they might see things, might not, which is particularly good for metalling I expect! Hope yours was a definite clear picture.

jaffa as usual some great advice from you. When I get my BFP I want to have a little jaffa sitting on my shoulder giving me sensible words of wisdom!

pebs plodding is good!

wilde I would echo the advice of manda - one GP I saw during my 4 months of constant spotting and bleeding said to go on the pill to sort it out - the other, who in most respects is pretty harsh and unfriendly, explained exactly what would be happening if I did that, and it didn't seem like a logical thing to do. I know it works for some, but it can also mask hormonal stuff going on that you want to know about! I loved being on the pill because it hid or prevented all the normal cycle stuff - now I want to know what is going on in detail!

miggle you are not nuts...I think sometimes the GP doesn't understand what we have been through, or haven't got time to acknowledge it (incase we breakdown during the 5 mins we have allocated!) On the other hand, some GPs are amazing and really fight your corner. I found all the staff in the EPU were brilliant, although I lot better in person than on the phone.

midget 32 weeks! Brilliant!

I am in the TWW now and it seems my first non-wtf cycle is a bit wtf...I am getting ewcm a week before my period is due!

wilderumpus · 28/08/2012 20:53

thanks quicksie. Am dreading finding out something could be hormonal, I wonder how they would fix that.

Btw I get ewcm in the 2ww, but just here and there - are you having lots? I thought I had ov'ed this month then five days later had LOTs of EWCM for a few days and then another peak on the opk so guess I didn't actually ov until a few days later! A smidge is all a-ok though :) good luck for this cycle, when are you testing?!

minx your Dm and MIL info doesn't sound quite right. so sorry to hear about your mc experience Biscuit hopefully your WTF cycle will be a-ok :)

lurcherlover · 28/08/2012 21:01

Evening all. Thanks so much for all your good wishes. The scan was fine - saw a little blob with a heartbeat Grin and it was such a relief to see the heartbeat flickering away. She did worry me a bit by saying there's a sac of fluid next to the baby which could bleed in future, but everything I've read says that it hopefully won't be a problem. Hopefully my body will just absorb it eventually.

minx welcome to the thread. We're sorry you're circumstances led you to find us, but glad you did as the ladies on here are super-supportive. I wouldn't start worrying about hormones and so on after one miscarriage (and it's progesterone that's the one to worry about anyway, not oestrogen, so your MIL doesn't know what she's talking about!). Fingers crossed your mc was one horrible event in your life, not to be repeated. Your odds of having a healthy pregnancy after one or even two mcs are the same as if you'd never had one - and even after three or more, you have an excellent chance of a healthy pregnancy, with correct medical management as appropriate.

miggle you poor thing, how frustrating. I don't know if there's anthing you could take to self-medicate next time you get BFP? A lot of people seem to take baby aspirin or high-dose vit B - no idea if they would help or not, but it might be worth doing some research to see if there's anything that could be worth a try?

StateofConfusion · 28/08/2012 21:21

Fantastic lurcher :) x

wilde its been really stressing me out the whole "if something goes wrong it will be my fault for not having taken the vit D I was prescribed" I've googled what I can and all it says is I need a suplement so surely my pregnancy multi vits better than nothing.

pebspop · 28/08/2012 21:22

wilde the hormone problem is low progesterone. it can cause early mc. they can give you suppositories to combat this.

good news about the scan lurcher.

try to ignore the advice from mil web. after three mcs I don't think anyone would dare to give me their made up medical advice! I would eat them for breakfast! just smile and ignore

hello manda. glad to see a graduate!

not sure about the d vits. do you not have the packaging from your last lot to get the dosage. maybe your gp surgery could tell you the dosage.

Quicksie · 28/08/2012 21:25

Great news lurcher, I am so pleased for you! Have they booked you in for any more early scans?

wilde thanks...yes there is quite a bit, and kind of a (tmi alert!) wet feeling. But then before I got pregnant I had been on the pill for years, this is my first proper cycle for a long time so everything is shocking and weird! We have been TTC so I think I will test a couple of days betore my AF is due. After the MMC I said I would not test until I had missed two AFs next time, yeah right! Fat chance! I would kind of like to know before the AF is on her way...so I can brace myself for the deep injustice of having to buy tampons and pay 20% vat on the buggers! I am investigating mooncups and hoping I won't need one!

wilderumpus · 28/08/2012 21:30

state do you have a specific medical complaint that makes it hard for you to absorb vit D? In which case get back to the GP. Or were you prescribed as a generic (scuse the term) preggo lady? If the latter am sure your preg vits will do the job, but if the former best to get back to the docs.

lurcher am delighted for you! :)

pebs do you know if there are any specific symptoms to low prog? I do have a teeny bit of spotting before my AF which I think I heard could be prog related. But during my pregnancy the progesterone was so fabulous that my body would not give up my blighted ovum for love nor money.

StateofConfusion · 28/08/2012 21:36

pebs they were just in a white box with my name/address sticker on, and the blister packs just said the name. Have googled but no luck.

wilde they didn't mention anything except raised BMI, but neither me or dp can remember if it was mentioned in relation to the vit D. I am also making sure I get outside every day.

Quicksie · 28/08/2012 22:12

state did your GP say they would repeat the prescription, but didn't know about alternatives? If so, you could just get a repeat of the sicky big ones, and ask the chemist when you collect them what the % is of rda. The chemist will probably be able to suggest alternatives as well, and you don't need to book an appointment three weeks in advance to go in to Lloyds or Boots! Then if there isn't an alternative, at least you will have the right ones.

StateofConfusion · 28/08/2012 22:19

He wouldn't do a repeat as me having a packet with me wasn't evidence I needed a repeat, nothing in my hand held notes either, I'm going to the chemist tomorrow with the blister pack to ask what % was in them.

Quicksie · 28/08/2012 22:24

state good idea. Sorry, I think you were probably very clear about that, my brain is not engaged after 5 weeks off work! The chemists round here are very good and always seem keen to help. When I went in to our local chemists for folic acid after buying tests the day before, the chemist had loads of advice to impart!

backwardpossom · 28/08/2012 22:32

Chuffed to hear your news, lurcher

Vitamin D - Sounds like a good plan, state. I got myself in a flap about it earlier after reading about it on MN and have bought some supplements for DS to have. I have just been taking my pregnancy vits and there's vit D in there, but I didn't really realise it was so important. I am outside a lot, but after this shitty summer, probably not enough!

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Quicksie · 28/08/2012 22:40

Hi possom I am just the same. I have been taking a supermarket brand preg vitamin (horse size) tablet but no one has ever pointed out the importance of vit D apart from the ladies on MN! And as I am not preg yet, I am a bit crap at remembering to take it, and sometimes take two in a day, sometimes none! Once I get a BFP that will no doubt be the cause of many a sleepless night.

StateofConfusion · 28/08/2012 23:03

quicksie I'm taking the tesco ones, they're huge, could hack pregnacare the smell made me gag!

MumTumWanted · 29/08/2012 10:06

Morning ladies I'm taking taking in addition to cyclogest pessary .....pregnacare b100 d vits and aspirin Blush guess I'm trying to cover all bases! But to be fair I'm veggie and I have dairy intolerance so I need all the help I can get !
I will be 6 weeks on Friday. I -stupidly- bravely decided to wait til dd had returned to school before having my scan so though I could have had it Friday I've waited until next Wednesday Confused I'm beginning to regret that choice Blush but on the positive side being 6+5 on Wednesday there should be no question about seeing a heartbeat ......

Welcome to minx also sorry u find urself here but the ladies are lovely x

Hi to the old crowd to manda lively to hear from u x Any news on Martha lately ???!

Quicksie · 29/08/2012 10:38

state isn't it interesting that at the time of yourlife when you feel most nauseous, the vitamin tablets become the size of a mattress and smell like cow dung?! I think perhaps they have been designed by a man!

mumtum I think you have done the right thing in waiting til school starts. Not long to go now til autumn term starts....

twolittlemonkeys · 29/08/2012 10:45

Hello all, just popping my head in to say hi. Still taking a bit of a break. Just got AF again - my cycles appear to be settling into their own version of regular, which is to say 6-7 weeks long! Last 2 have been 47 days, previous one somewhere in the early 40s. I still get a sinking feeling every time AF arrives, even though we're not really ttc.

Haven't caught up with the whole thread yet, but just wanted to let you all know I'm thinking of you.

StateofConfusion · 29/08/2012 11:49

mumtum although waiting is hard I think you did the right thing, I did similar and asked to move mine forward so I could avoid the june school holiday.

quicksie that really made me Grin the tesco ones are slightly smaller and less smelly fortunatly, I've tried so many now!

Glad things are begining to settle for you two x

Quicksie · 29/08/2012 12:58

two glad things are getting back on track, they dont warn you about all this at the hospital do they! My cycles are longer now too. Are you going to chart etc? I have no idea when I ov so might have to get technical and buy nick from school some graph paper!

MiggleMoo · 29/08/2012 16:57

Hi all, can anyone offer me a dummies guide to what supplements, vitamins etc I could/ should be taking to hopefully make our next one stick? We are very lucky and so far have fallen pregnant every cycle of trying but loose around 5 to 7 weeks it seems. I take folic acid each day but a few of you have suggested progesterone, baby aspirin etc but its all new to me??

MiggleMoo · 29/08/2012 16:57

Hi all, can anyone offer me a dummies guide to what supplements, vitamins etc I could/ should be taking to hopefully make our next one stick? We are very lucky and so far have fallen pregnant every cycle of trying but loose around 5 to 7 weeks it seems. I take folic acid each day but a few of you have suggested progesterone, baby aspirin etc but its all new to me??

webminx · 29/08/2012 20:12

Hi everyone,
Thanks mumtum! Fingers crossed for Wednesday for you and really lovely news from Lurcher. Like miggle, am also interested in a dummies guide to supplements etc that I could take to assist