After m/c - the wine and shagging thread: no 2!

[wilderumpus]

Hello ladies!

So we have had our mc's... and are moving on and thinking about making new babies :) Hurray, hurray!

Thanks Wild! I think, like, my man won't be super happy anymore, but a little was enough once and it will be again! Fx my little op next week doesn't delete any possibility that could arise from this weeks' insatiable day time lovin!

I've got the wine in....;-)

hello all! Wow lots of action on the thread today! and not just chat one

one They do spook easy! Glad you managed to finish the deed - I so know that slightly forced ttc sex! Both me and DH get so knackered in the evening, so we end up having slightly half hearted sex. We both prefer the morning, but that means risking one of the kids coming in

joburg I just fess up to DH as luckily he doesn't mind knowing when. TBH if I didn't, he would be too tired most of the time, so it's the only way I persuade him at the 'right' time.

Welcome joberg, cheese, Hayle and Carrot great to have some new people on the thread. Really sorry to hear about your MCs. It is super crap!

I too was told I could ttc straight away. But I had a natural MC at 7 weeks, and had a scan which showed all clear, so I don't know if that makes any difference. Also I got AF about 33 days after first day of MC bleeding - so I reckon not that disimilar to normal - my cycle is usually 29 days. I don't really believe that one is more fertile after MC - but who knows? It's worth a shot!

Hayle it's so hard seeing people due at the same time you were. I am really hoping to be pg by the time the due date comes (Nov) but who knows!?

wild wow your Dad died in a car crash? That must have been so hard, and when you were so young. I'm really really sorry to hear that. As I think I said before, my Dad's sudden death was the hardest thing I've ever had to deal with (and am still dealing with) - and I was 36!

Also wild yes I noticed that other thread. There is definitely a really aggressive thing going on with that poster. I guess she has had a hard time ttc, but I am not surprised she's rubbing up people the wrong way. Def wise to keep well clear!

Yes it awful, especially when you see then every weeks. She's sailed through it and I've ended up in hosp twice. Once with dehydration due to sickness and then when I was MC.
Oh well, can't change it!
I haven't had my AF yet and I had a natural MC on 22/6 so reckon its on it's way as I'm fairly irratable and moody! I want to be pg by September really but nothing goes to plan as we have all found out!

I'm so crap, Wild, while catching up this morning I read Boo's entry which drew my attention back to read what you wrote properly. Uff, I can't begin to imagine what that must have been like. . And Boo sorry to hear your father's passed as well.

I still have pos opks today so we're keeping on today and tomorrow. But that means implanation, at it's earliest, would now be after my little opa wednesday. OH is being lovely and comforting and supportive and says that he thinks the only problem could be my stress levels, and he's therefore coming with me to help keep them down. I have to say, he helped me through the mc and better care does not exist. Setting my occassional rants about our sex life aside, he is truly amazing, I'm so lucky and grateful and am off now to make him breakfast.

cheese we ggot straight bback ttc after first mc and concieved the first cycle. Sadly that wad a mmc (not related to the previous mc, just bad luck) we waited one cycle after the mmc so I could get my head sorted (it took about 5 weeks for af to come hayle)

No laptop for me for the summer so stuck on pphonr apologies in advance of I miss anything big through poor reading and, needless to say, there will be issues with spelling!!

Sorry to hear about your dads wilde and boo, my dad died 4 years ago and the thing that upsets me more than anything else is hat he never met DH or , more importantly, DD :( I'm convinced DD was my Christmas present from him as she was 'unecpected'

How are you getting on with dtd one, I hope you have had no more interuptions!!

I had our end of year work night out on Fridsy and one of my favourite colleagues has now left which was sad. I am normal a bit of a party animal so there was a bit of when I wasn't drinking so i wouldn't be suprised if they have all.put two a nd two tigeher, they all know about both mc. I don't suppose it matters but i would rather they didn't know. If it hadn't been for my buddy leaving.i wouldn't have gone at all to avoid speculation. At least i have the summer holidays fir the early . and can make unlimited trips to the loo for knicker checking ( all clear since brown cm scare) . We ate going on our hols on Tuesday and my mother is coming to help with DD so should have very relaxing week hopefully (and am very excited about telling mother about bfp, im going to burst if i don't shout it at someone soon;!!)

hayle i think we all feel your pain re he pregnant women, i am no longer a fscebooker as i couldn't take it any mote. I found out a friend wad pregnat the week after my first mc and it was almost worse than the mc itself ( and its horrible because you want to be happy for them, and you are, kind of, but its a hollow happiness.

I can hear Dzd now, she had v early nightlast night so esry morning id the price we pay,;! I hope this post is at least comprehensible,(i can see a couple of mistakes in the tiny window i can see) but haven't the energy to start fixing, its too hard.

Hi y'all. finally some sunny weather - I am in so much of a better mood!!

one really glad you have a supportive OH. It's too easy to moan about these chaps sometimes, so it's also good to be nice about them! My DH was around this weekend (the first and last in a while due to work, grr) and we had such a nice time, I too am feeling very loved up at the mo! (always useful when ttc is on the cards...! )

hayle yes you can't plan these things - hope your AF is on the way then you can get on with ttc!

chuckle glad everything seems to be going ok and the spotting stopped - I bet it was just implantation related. Great that you are going on hols, as it will give your body a chance to relax and let the pg take over! Hurrah! Hope it all goes well. Sorry about your Dad - that must be hard that he didn't meet your DH or DD. It is my only consolation - that Dad knew and loved DH and my two DD's (just). I am still grieving really - it takes a long time (been 18 months now). Anyway, enjoy breaking the BFP news to your momma!

Here's to a good week everyone .

Hi everyone

I am trying to get pg with dc1. I became pg in june but sadly mc. Found it very hard, especially having been able to see heartbeat etc. Didn't realise how uncertain and hard early pg can be.

Anyway, we have decided to ttc straight away. It feels like the right thing to do . Really hoping I can get pg before af comes but not sure if this is wishful thinking.

Was pretty relaxed about getting pg before mc but now feel quite desperate to be pg again. Trying to be more relaxed about it all.

Just a quickie on my phone to say welcome woody. sorry to hear about yr MC - after hearing heartbeat must have been very hard.
I know what you mean about getting on with it... Hopefully it will happen soon for you!

My mum put this into perspective when she told me to remember just everything that has to happen for a healthy pregnancy. Your body has some complicated stuff to do. I know it's no concelation.
Woody, I really hope you get pg soon, I also miss carried in June, my second pregnancy. Dd is 3.5 so this one was much welcomed.
Dh and I are child free two nights this week due to our early starts at work so gonna give it a good go!
Let's have some good news on this thread :-)

Hellooooo ladies!

sorry to see you here, but glad you have found this really supportive thread!

Back from deepest hottest Greece! 43 degrees was bloomin' hot. Have discovered i have a small addiction to olives. Yum. Am pleased to see that I have brought the sunshine back with me....

chuckle - a BFP!!! What brilliant news - many congrats.

guruwildeoverlord have been laughing my head off at your comments as I was lurking on the ttc thread when the certain poster came along and dominated the conversation. Was interesting to see the number of posts decreased significantly the month the poster was away sick etc. I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion but it is difficult having it shoved down your throat and being told you are wrong by someone you don't know!!! If i see that name on the list, I can't be bothered to read the thread now. boo as you say, the aggression can't be helping her ttc.

Sheldonella hope things are going well for you?

one I had the same little op before I started having kids. It was absolutely fine, although I was a little uncomfortable with so many people concentrating on my bits , but it certainly didn't hinder my sex life for a moment (literally)....!!! Good luck with that.

Over here, in camp 'OMG I have 3 kids at home for 6 weeks of summer holiday', the nausea has begun to wane, but boobs still inflating nicely. Am taking photos of them on a regular basis, so once all this is over and they've gone back to being raisins again, I can look back and show the implant surgeon exactly how I'd like them to look! Good idea - yes?!

I have my 12 wk scan this afternoon - exceedingly nervous. Had stupid dreams about no heartbeat last night.

Hi ice, hope all goes well with scan, am sure it will- how exciting seeing your little onev!
hi woody, hope you get your bfp soon.
You are right ,hayley,babies are so amazing it should be hard yo make one. Just feels sooooo hard somtumes, ( and so easy for other people).
Still getting brown cm here but its really not much so am trying not to stress. Off on hols tomorrow morning for a week and planning on phoning doc when I get back to try and sort out an early scan. If I can have scan before I go back to work it would be great (assuming I am still pg by then) ( I am such a pessimist :( )

chuckle I have everything crossed for you. In going to demand ask for an early scan next time because the whole nine months will drag with anxiety :-(
It's definitely hard to realise just how hard it is to create a life. It's truly a miracle when it happens.
Try to remember that when your three year old is being a pain!!

Ps ice love the boob photo idea. Every 2 minutes I say to DH 'do they look bigger now??' poor man. Then I tell him to keep his hands off as am stressing that dtd will cause problems!!!

Hi ladies, been feeling rubbish so not posted for a while.

ice good luck with the scan. Nice to hear your nausea has subsided, hope mine does. I had to come home from work today as I felt so awful. I feel a bit silly.

wilde Hope you are having a nice trip.

Chuckle Have a great trip, you deserve it.

Hello to the new joiners. This is a great thread and has really helped me through the hard times. I hope it does the same for you :)

More new people, lovely, welcome!

Hello Ice! Fx your scan is a lovely experience (I can't be lieve it's here already!)

Chuckle, having brown cm has got to be hard to sit with, but you are forging ahead, that's the bravery part.

Sheldonella (keep wanting to call you Shelodnia!), sorry you're struggling and feeling silly about it, it's common, if people aren't sympatheitic then they have a problem, so all you have then to do is be sympathetic towards yourself, hope you can find some comfort today.

I have a question ladies. I'm not actually pg but am in the 2ww, and I developed thrush over the weekend, and this morning without thinking I stopped by the pharmacy and bought a pill and popped it in, then read the guidance... can cause serious harm. I'm struggling to get any good guidance from google as it only refers to pg women so far but everything does stress not to take it if you are trying... have I just made the worst mistake ever? I'd hate to ring my gp for something that in 2 weeks could turn out to be a waste of worry.

I just found this...

"Can taking fluconazole during the first trimester of pregnancy cause birth defects?
The effects of fluconazole on pregnancy may depend on the dose that is used. Studies looking at the use of low doses of fluconazole (mostly a single dose of 150 mg) in more than 1,600 women during the first trimester of pregnancy did not show an increased risk of birth defects. A single dose of 150 mg is the most commonly used dose to treat vaginal yeast infections."

seems a reliable source. fx, fx, fx, fx.

Try not to worry one. I got a uti a couple of months ago and took some antibiotics and had the same sort of worry. I was reassured by the doctor that lots of women take medications at this stage without problems. I also did lots of googling like you and worried myself silly over it.

Thanks Sheldonella, silly for me to worry when am not even pg! I just happened to have a free moment and thuoght, ah, that's interesting that it didn't say not to take it, I just hadn't read it clearly, there are several sections of "do not take if", am feeling a little better.

How's your queesyness (sp?)?

one - I was prescribed thrush meds early in pg 3 by dr. Was fine. I'm guessing that if a pg woman can take it then it won't adversely affect a ttc woman? Anyway, you need to get the thrush cleared up quickly before your op.

chuckle so hoping that the CM clears up for you. Brown is old, red is the colour to really worry about. Chant the mantra that today you are pg and everyday that goes by increases your chances. I don't wish to teach you to suck eggs, but little things like that are all that kept me going in the early days. Am keeping my fingers tightly crossed for you.

sheldonella - DONT feel bad for going home sick. It's rubbish and knocks you out like nothing else. Rest, eat and keep drinking fluids. I ate my way through trees worth of bananas as I read somewhere they are a really good snack, and slowly digested too. They did seem to help - better than the toast, kitkat chunkies or salt and vinegar crisps I've favoured before....

Scan was fab. Had forgotten how brilliant they are, although I have to say the private scan I had before going away told me a lot more info and detail than the NHS one. got really emotional and had a little blub while she was scanning, which apparently didn't help with taking measurements. CRL was 8cm. DDay is now set at 22 Jan, so they've put me a week ahead of my dates. Officially 13+6 today! Yee ha!

Brilliant news ice
:-)

Haylebop I know what your mum means. My dad said that having got pg shows that we are 99.9% there and we should see that as a positive. Trying to take any positives that I can from what happened.

Well I am now having ewcm - don't know if this is too soon after mc to be a sign of ovulation. It I use first day of bleeding as first day of af on ovulation calculator then my most fertile period should be from tomorrow so that would make sense...

I just don't know if I'm reading too much into everything. Would it be possible to conceive in 2nd week after mc?

I can't answer your question but there will be ones on here that can. I haven't had my first AF yet, but have been dtd so I'm not sure tbh! From
What I can gather you can get pregnant anytime after mc.
It's prob best not to read too much and take everyday as it comes.

great news ice! congrats.

sorry to hear you aren't feeling great Sheldonella, you must rest up if you need to!

Hayle your mum is right!

woody I am sure you could be having EWCM now - it's perfectly possible to get pg straight after MC as far as I know.

Hope everyone else is well. I spent half the day without kids at the open air pool! Hurrah! Feeling much more chilled with the gorgeous weather - hoping it will impact on ttc...

chuckle have a great hols!