After m/c - the wine and shagging thread: no 2!

[wilderumpus]

Hello ladies!

So we have had our mc's... and are moving on and thinking about making new babies :) Hurray, hurray!

PS Any news cheese?

thanks chuckle. day only getting worse, sister in hosp but being a total pain in the arse (how does that happen? sick people are surely completely benign?!) and have to take kitten back to rescue shelter :(.

can't concentrate so work going badly.

need a cuddle from DH, greasy comfort food, a sneaky fag, lots of gin and maybe a shag, in that order

good luck with marking chuckle. poor you!

and thank you for trying to make me feel better!

sorry one she hasn't been back that i can see, just the morning of that day! oddness. little she was nice enough and her knowledge was broad, just a little dogmatic for my taste.

Sorry you are having a bad day wilde. Can you hide the friend on facebook? I think what is left from Sat and Sun is definitely still possible so try not to be too down. Hope your day gets better.

thanks sheldon you are kind. I am in a flap and have no idea why really.

I have unfriended her a while back for this reason (bitter cow emoticon) but her posts still pop up as comments on friends' statuses!. Boo :(

Wild you have lots of good reason to be in a flap, never apologise. Some days everything conspires to make it a shitty one. You're nearly through it now. And we all know that FB can be the devils' spawn for mc ladies so you've got lots of extra sympathy with that! Why did your sister being in hospital mean she can't keep her kitten? How sad and difficult that must have been for you! And I agree with the others, sperm are designed to hang about. And cm as you know can come and go in a crazy fashion, what does your opk say?

Where's Cheese with our update???

Chuckle you gave me a giggle with the idea of staring at your work while engaging whole heartedly in tea and tv!

Thanks one.

well my sis is in hosp often for long stays so she has had to leave her cat with my brother which is very sad. And my kitten can't stay with me because DH has developed asthma from her! He is ok at the mo so we feel bad taking her back, but if we keep her then he gets ill in winter when she is inside more she will be harder to take back - no one will want to rehome a cat as much as a kitten :(

day getting better - can see the end of it now! Told DH he was needed for shagging tonight and he said 'what?! I thought my tour of duty was over!' ah the romance of ttc :)

Will ov sometime over next three days i reckon. bladdy hell, what a long cycle this will be. 37 days?! OPK are neg one, was only pos on sat am... have been testing loads since to see if it goes pos again as still having fertile signs! BUT you can pop the egg sometime after a pos opk can't you? Doesn't mean will def ov in 48 hours... I never ever get ewcm (in abundance) after ov... but could be anything - I tell myself I am having a wonky cycle, to keep dtd and will see what happens but part of me needs to know I have ov'ed so I can sit back and be on the 2ww.

oooh I saw that That Poster was kicked off for trolling! and being rude to radical feminists or something on Dadsnet. Is on another ttc thread, she really has been kicked off good and proper. And she is well angry about it as apparently they are being unreasonable! Why won't she get that she can't just go around pissing people off and expect them to just shrug it off.

Oh, and I was lying about the anger thing. I think my PhD is actually making me insanely angry.

laters!

You poor thing with your kitten Wild. A part of me wants to offer to rehome it for you. My OH has taken in a neighborhood cat and I've told him he's not allowed to feed it, but he really enjoys having this cat around and it comes to visit him every day. My OH only moved in about 9 months ago and I think his striking up an independent relationship with this cat is a way of him settling in!(I'm aware it sounds like I'm talking about a child and not an adult man!). I think I would like to have a pet but I really want to see about this baby business first. In two years I will be 42 and past it and will get pets... or actually I might then try adoption... will definitely get a pet by the time I'm 45!

If your opks are negative, but were positive Sat am then maybe you did ovulate but still have ewcm??? Can't you get that for other reasons? Isn't it irksome (intentional understatement emoticom) that "THEY" haven't developed the eggcam so that we can follow in real time what is actually going on in there?!

Ooh, trolling. I must now really learn what that means properly. But in the meantime, ooooh.

apparently trolling ISN'T when you write nasty/annoying stuff in a thread purposefully to wind people up, and then wonder off leaving them to stew-which is what this lady confessed to doing for fun! and got cross for being accussed by MNHQ for, indeed, trolling behaviour. Fancy not knowing you are a troll!

You are kind to chat to me about this one. I feel calmer having had your ear to bend, thank you kindly :) Soooooo I looked online and was surprised to find that i really should have ov'ed 12-48 hours after the post opk but apparently 'personal' fertile signs can take up to three days to begger off after ovulation. So would take from that (and FF) that I have indeed popped my egg. Am not convinced though! Am not leaving it to chance... one more shag for luck or will spend the rest of my 2ww cursing myself for jibbing out at the last, ahem, hurdle (lovemaking = hurdle jumping?!) I didn't have any ewcm before though really (which is most unlike me) and now, ahem, most certainly do. It has been the oddest cycle. Oh roll on September and my bloody lovely holiday. I need to get away!

aw well if you would want my kitty then hopefully someone else will too :) she is lovely and great with my toddler so think she will get rehomed quickly. I will NOT get a pet now until my youngest child (oh please let me have more) is 5. End of. man they are surprisingly hard work, socialising them etc. I love that your OH is smitten, am surprised at how hard my DH is taking the situ over the cat, I think he thinks it is his fault but really, he can't help it!

Wow, (armed with the urban dictionary) am off to see what it was about!

Wilde - I have a slight thing like that with a friend of mine, our DSs are 2 months apart and she's pg with twins at the min and sometimes I feel quite mean, spiteful things about her cos she's due 8 weeks before I would have been and she does do some kind of stupid and insensitive things and she's not the most err concerned mum when it comes to her other DS but i know it's really me who has the problem so just trying to grit my teeth and swallow my bile!

cheese - update??

one - good pet / baby plan!

I'm having a bit of a pain - we moved house into a new build rented place in the burbs. It's a bad time to be selling anywhere (obviously) so we've rented our more central 2.5 bed terrace out. Now we're having a combination of old house inevitable problems, bad luck and very picky tenants and at the minute it is costing us a pure FORTUNE to get everything fixed. We have no savings because being mortgaged to the hilt for the last 4 years, plus maintenance, rates and insurance will do that to you! And I only work part time so we are really struggling with the flipping bills this month - don't have enough to pay the childminder, buy groceries, pay the electric this month so going to have to borrow some off my mum which I've never had to do since I left home. Never rains but it pours! Wish we could just torch the stupid place and not have to think about it, ttc is enough of a mind melt along with work, DS and general life without having the unfailingly polite but very demanding tenants' needs to worry about as well.

Facepalm

aw snow that sucks :( My friend has similar eh-house now rental issues. Am sorry you are stressed! here

ex-house-now-rental that was?! Eck, I need to stop working my brain is frazzled. am off for tv time!

and till tomorrow and ta-da! HAPPY FACE.

Sorry snow, house issues, that's a big stressor. Is there an end in sight? And facepalm, is this a term that's used nowadays? How is it that I don't know any current language???!!! (good night!)

Thanks for the vino! Getting contractors repirt 2moro evening so should know on Thurs if the biggest issue is fixable within budget. If not we might have to just take it on the chin, sell at a pretty big loss and walk away :( but there's far more important things than money, right? Like babies and bfps etc!

One thing I've noticed since the mc is a weird routine to my cycles. Some of it makes intuitive sense, like when I'm due to ovulate I have loads of sex dreams and tons of energy. In the week before my period is due I've had a tendence to not sleep a full night. This time I'm not even tempted to eat the sausages and chips (so I'm not pg!) but I was lying in bed thinking about how I could get that laundry on and maybe do some bits of cleaning... crazy! I'm going to be sooo tired later!

4.19am?! noooooooo. why you up at that time?! Poor one.

snow am sorry about your housey issues. maybe you can hang on to it for long enough that the market bucks up a bit?

Am a bit better today. Have come to terms with the fact that I just am moody and irritable because of work and that will be constant until I hand in. Knowing this (and thanks one for mentioning you were like that so helped me recognise it!) is good as I can then accept it and just work around it eat a lot of twixs

I am not exercising in the 2ww as DH did sport science at uni and is Wise About These Things and said to do swimming or gentle jogging instead of shredding... but I am not good at that and always over extend myself. so he said well, choose exercise or pregnancy then because making your body stressed will not help it decide is a good time to make a baby. So I eat cheesecake and 'relax' (sit tensely and ahem, angrily) instead.

Dtd last night just in case. no idea when ov'ed or even if I have! won't test for two weeks so...

Hope you ladies are having good days.

wilde - yep, if it's phd work you'll def be going a bit loopy! def not your fault, it's allowed

one - that does sound very strange but also pretty cool to have all the extra energy!

hoping the report we get back tonight on the damp in the house is going to not be too terrible and I wrote to the bank today about making our mortgage interest only for the next wee while to help out with money and if all that goes ok we'll be able to hang on for the next 12 months or so and see what happens. it's a sickener both of us working and then instead of having savings or money for holidays and nights out it seems to get sunk into a negative equity money pit house but i know we're far from being the only ones in this boat and obviously the most important things in life are family, friends and your health, not money so feeling a bit less stressed. Have to see what this bloody report says though!!

it is PhD work snow! I am going a bit loopy! I forget words easily when talking and am veeery short tempered and only want comfort stuff when not working; comfort food, easy stuff to do with DS, easy silly tv. Am reading a LOT of novels which is a suprise but it really helps me switch off and is my favourite hobby of all time. wea re off to the zoo on saturday as I intend to finish another chapter tomorrow :) Only three more to do then! WOOT.

one have you had any more spotting today? will you do any early testing this cycle?!

snow your house situ does sound very stressful. Hope you are ok. is it too early for ? arf better pick the child up from the childminder instead!

wilde - my phd supervisor also has 2 young kids and she always forgets stuff even now, like what age she is and stuff! before I had my DS her DS was about 18 months and she used to forget what she was saying to me mid-sentence and i didn't really understand why. now i do!

yep prob a bit too early for lol have to finish work and collect DS first. SiL is coming round to check out our new (rented) house tonight though so trashy TV and wine o'clock later on.

I know it's a bit early to tell but I don't think we've managed to hit the jackpot this cycle, too busy moving and being money stressed to dtd as much as we prob needed to and also my cycle is up the left being the first one post-erpc - i'm still bleeding a little bit today even over 3 weeks later so i'm thinking prob not going to OV until next month. Oh well, an October BFP is just as good!

Am having a chaotic whiny pre-menstrual day today. I let loose on one friend who had a go at another friend. And struggled with another colleague's inefficiencies. Need to sleep.

No more spotting Wild, thanks for asking. And totally bonkers doing a PhD so look after yourself, it's a very weird time you're in, you can return to a holding phase after hand in and to normal after viva... and, reaches for the diary... am cd 21 and 7dpo. No symptoms. But typical premenstrual spot so a bit angry to boot. ooommmmmm fs ommmm.

And yeah, MN is weird in the sleep time hours. Sleep on MN'ers!

Hiya! Hope all the PhD students are doing ok!

Well, so, eek, I tested on Monday and got a very feint positive. then I forgot about it. Or tried to. Cd 30 today, usually cycle of 26 days. Haven't tested again as couldn't find any more tests at home. Ordered some off amazon which will be here by weekend then will test again.

Only told DH today as he asked if I had come on. Otherwise had kept schtum.

You see, I am shit scared. Last pregnancy I got pregnant in the first month of trying, just like now. Had no symptoms at all, just like now. When I was pregnant with ds, I knew straight away, the heightened smell, the cravings for certain things, etc all before I had tested. This time nothing, nada. It's a long way to eight weeks, but I am so nervous about the whole pregnancy should really stop watching the midwives I have such a bad feeling, and it might be because I mc'd less than two months ago but what if I'm right. Mothers intuition?

So am So scared right now to be happy, don't think I've really accepted it yet. Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh.
Any words of wisdom? Iny head I know to take it one step at a time, get past eight weeks ( when I mc'd last time) then get to booking in appointment then to scan etc etc

and littlemiss I definitely will not be starting any sort of thread on the matter

Congrats cheese, a line is a line! Well done for waiting so long to test, you are an example to us all especially me, need to learn some patience

Hope yoU have a less chaotic day today one, good news that the spotting has cleared up ( and that you didn't post at 4am today!! Hope you had a good ling sleep!!!)

how was the house report littlemiss?

GCSE results day so am uber nervous for my kiddy winkles but not going to school as don't want to take dd in. Am hoping someone will email me the results.

Hope everyone has a lovely relaxing day with no wierd cycle goings ons, no incapable colleagues and most importantly, no annoying Facebook notifications!!