After m/c - the wine and shagging thread: no 2!

[wilderumpus]

Hello ladies!

So we have had our mc's... and are moving on and thinking about making new babies :) Hurray, hurray!

Hello littlemiss, sorry you're here but hope you are back on the pg threads soon.

Sorry to hear you are not feeling good cheese, and hope you are still feeling poOp sheldonella!! Fingers and toes crossed for wed for you.

Glad you are feeling calm one, I may be wrong but i think the last time i felt anywhere near calm was October!! (just before the ttc / mc cycle began). I hope it continues and results in a lovely bfp!!

I am off to see mw for first time today. Am a bit nervous but also a bit excited about being officially preggers. Can't decide whether to beg for early scan or not, had chat with dh about it and he would rather not, im not sure i will stress any less so seems pointless, but then it would be nice to see a healthy, viable pregnancy. I guess I'll see what she's like before i decide!

Anyway, hapoy Monday morning happy!!

one tell me about it! Got hayfever and a chest infection and just felt rough, convincing myself it was morning sickness?! cd22 roughly here. Just waiting for AF now.... Make myself laugh when I turn every feeling I get into a pregnancy symptom.... Craving KFC? MUST be pregnant? No, oh well will have a zinger burger or two anyway

Yes the last time I felt this calm was also before my ttc/mc rollercoaster too Chuckle. We started in December and I was pg by January. What a long messed up year, I will so enjoy New Year's Eve and knocking 2012 on the head! Anyway, I feel increasingly like my mind is returning to me, socially and at work, I can read again, sort of!

Yay Chuckle and your mw appt! How exciting, wondering how your thinking goes about the early scan request, let us know!

And Cheese I know what you mean. I just walked up some stairs and my legs were like jelly when I got to the top, a sign I usually associate with AF's arrival (but is in this instance I think due to weight gain!!!), anyway, it made me think about how often I discount or emphasise experiences to fit with my current world view! Having said that, it is absolutley a sign to be craving kfc (one of my guilty pleasures!). How long are your cycles normally? I.e., How far along are you in the 2ww?

hey all

sorry for not being around, work meant an self-induced MN ban for a bit :) Will have to keep doing that as am super keen to get lots of my PhD done asap so I can get preggo.

sheldon sorry to hear about your spotting and shit treatment at the hosp, sounds mad that that Dr even bothers to go to work they soound so jaded and uncaring. Report, report. Even ones who don't give a toss understand about mc can be sympathetic and kind for goodness sake. At 9 weeks you would certianly see something conclusive. Good luck for weds sweetie.

littlemiss am sorry to hear about your mc. I was on, or lurking on, a board when you got your BFP and remember you! hopefully you'll be pg veeer soon. Hope you ok.

one I am totally laid back this month too?! And my fertile signs are being lackadaisical this month. I am only just getting my fade in on the opk (phew, was so happy to see a line) - am cd 17 today so was losing hope and thought I wouldn't ov this cycle too! DH is mad keen on dtd at the mo, am having to tell him to hold his horses as we are not ov'ing any time too soon! i reckon Thurs/fri... thurs would be typical for moi on cd20. Am so not fussed this month, I really wonder what I will be like in the 2ww! I have so much work to do it is being a tonic to baby-madness.

ALSO I happen to have been around 3 mums this past week who all have two children under 3 years old and feck me they aren't best happy. So am happy to sit back and enjoy my time with just DS to chase amble after and child free boozy evenings while I can! Made me really grateful for what I have instead of depressed and lusting after waht I don't. still avoiding anyone who would have been due around my mc baby EDD tho!

cheese sorry to hear you are poorly sick.

well miss the olympics! I found it so inspiring!

must dash, laters lovelies.

oh good luck for today chuckle!

Before my mc my last three cycles were 26 days each. Before that it was a bit of a lottery, pick a number, any number!

Well, Cheese, then maybe not long to wait now! How do you pass the time during the 2ww? What's your stance on poas'ing?

Hello Wild! How'd go your stay at home while your family went away? And from cd 10 I test 3x a day so I can report in that I also just got a faint fading in line. I think we're going to be 2ww buddies again! Could be anytime between now and Thursday for me. But I do feel less obsessive about it. I keep having to check my diary to remember what cd it is and when dtd time is whereas in the past it was all I could think of. I admire you that you were able to work on your PhD, I may as well have not been at work this year.

Now, I have a friend coming over in an hour to share a takeaway, a really good bottle of wine (a gift, not the cheap crap I usually buy) and the film Love, Eat, Pray. Anyone seen it?

Ha! I don't mean that literally Cheese!!! That's given me a real giggle!!!

Love eat pray? 6 out of ten. Spent most of it admiring Julia Roberts body whilst chomping on Pringles

Am mega tired today. Therefore I must be pregnant. nothing to do with watching the Olympics closing ceremony to the end

God, they really should have started earlier, I was up too late and then unable to go to sleep and woke up just before 7, argh! I thought it was better than the opening ceremony though, what did you think? (and yes, you are so pg!)

Wilde - hello, yes i remember u too, sorry to find u in same boat but nice to see (another) friendly face :) i was doing a phd when i was pg with DS - ended up submitting final thesis when he was 5 months, doing viva wh#n he was 7 months and graduating when he was 10 months...quite a year! So lots of sympathy and support from.me, def good plan to do as much as poss before getting pg again!

Feel weird not knowing what CD im on! Tho i hav pcos and v flippin irregular cycles in the 3 months i was ttc before i got.my.bfp i was pretty into knowing my CD. Only been 13 days from erpc tho and im.still bleeding a bit so dont think AF is likely to be showing up soon but of course we've all heard the 'rebound fertility' post-mc myths success stories and ladies getting pg again before af returns so just going to get through on wine&shagging for next few weeks and try to not get too obsessed with the fact i hav no idea if im even going to OV this month. Sigh. Pass the folic acid...and a large bucket of wine!!

wow so we have two PhD grads on this thread?! am incredibly intimidated :) I had one child during the PhD snow, he is 2.7 now! Thought it would be nice to start getting pg again for when I finish, not considering I might not have an easy time of it again and have a looooong drawn out evil mc :( I was signed off for 5 months, i almost jacked uni in, didn't see the point at all and was a bit depressed... but am better now and I am now using that as extra time and not, in fact, being sick at all.

one you made me chortle. and yay for possible 2ww together. Am still firmly against early poas... Am really hoping I'll ov by the end of the week then will have two days off! And then back to a new chapter I hope to have done before going on holiday in sept. (THEN only the intro and concl and a whole load of editing [incredibly scared emoticon])

anyway, can you tell I am iin serious work mode?! back to it :)

my post didn't make much sense, not sure why I conflated ov'ing and my uni time off?! bizarro. nope, can't remember. THIS is why I stopped being on MN.

snow I was on the ttc with pcos thread with you and am really sorry to hear about your mc. It's shit isn't it? Just wanted to tell you that since my mc (4 months ago now) I've been surprisingly regular with 30 day cycles. This is after 20 years of being so irregular that af always caught me by surprise (anywhere between 30 days and 18 months between af). I do think that sometimes a pg/mc can kick start the 'normal' hormonal cycle that everyone else has most of their life.

Sheldon I'm really sorry your dr was so heartless about your spotting. I have everything crossed that it turns out to be nothing. A lot of people have perfectly normal pregnancies after spotting early on, but I know our recent experiences make it all more worrying.

foof glad to see you back ttc. Hope you are ok. I'm not really back but keep lurking to see how everyone is getting on.

Selfish rant alert, apologises in advance as haven't read previous posts.

IS EVERYONE IN THE BLOODY WORLD PREGNANT APART FROM ME?!

Triggered by every woman i drove past this Morning sporting a huge bump. Ladies in this thread excluded. You're Allowed to be pregnant. Rant over. Thanks for listening.

cheese - a lady in my work's son is having his first baby today and she keeps giving me labour updates. gritting teeth. trying to keep perspective!

jodidi - yep it's definitely shit. keep having up and down days, some days i'm busy with work, with DS, with getting settled in our new house, with loads of diff things going on and I'm not really thinking about it at all. Then I go to the loo and I'm still bleeding a bit and i remember :( I'm just going to dtd every 2-3 days and try and not think too much about what CD I'm on because I seemed to OV at different times every cycle anyway from what I was able to tell. Stupid pcos! Glad your cycles are regular at the min tho :)

wilde - Dr Wilde and Dr Snowshine!

You're on the home stretch Wild! And your post made perfect sense to me... so... um.. is it me or is it you?!!!!! Don't worry, my previous OH did a PhD and he would do things like look for his pants in the fridge when he was getting dressed in the morning! I don't think I did anything odd, but I did become extremely angry for the last several months, and developed weird hightened senses, I remember the incredible feeling of fresh air on my skin as I went out very little at the end stages, and colours of leaves and things just astounded me. I was probably dying of malnutrition as I was living off coffee to wake up, pot noodle as it was quick and alcohol to go to sleep.

Glad your cycles have become so regular Jo, that's got to help.

Cheese and Little, ditto here, there are two women at work who are pg at the moment and although the initial shock of their news was difficult it's now more about how long their pg's seem to be taking, I feel like I've been faking interest for soooo long now.

As for my own little journey, we dtd last night and today I'm spotting, very unusual for me so I'm worried I'm not fully healed from that little cervix excision. Thinking about whether we should stop trying for this month. The Consultant said it would take 6 weeks to heal but that we could have sex after 3 weeks, so by that rule it should be ok. Might go and google other reasons for spotting after sex!

Will wonders never cease, apparently there's a thing called ovulation spotting, and I think, judging by the descriptions, that's what I'm doing. I wonder if I will ever learn all the ins and outs of this process? Anyone else done a bit of ovspot before?

oooh one we aren't that different then, which gives me hope I really am near the end! On my own I will eat frozen food, pizza or fish and chips because I don't have time or creative energy to cook. I drink coffee all day, have taken up smoking again (when alone, not when DS is at home and which is obvs GREAT for ttc. FFS) and would drink a few g and t's to relax before going to bed. being mum makes me totally different though.

(am I really on the home stretch?! really, really? [super hopeful emoticon]) I was angry! And stressy! but now I am doing ok, I think I just have to make sure I work EVERY day and keep momentum - it isn't doing the work that bothers me, it is when I stop and forget where i was. Also, I would argue with DH a lot (he thinks my phd is a hobby!) as he woulnd't help me find time to work, but now I just fit it in where i can and rely on no bugger but moi.

and to ttc! my opk line is v. nearly pos today so guess it will be pos tomorrow, bang on time! this is very exciting as my cervix and CM are not being as fertile as usual so thought i was in for the long haul this month... we shall see, maybe is all a big fake LH surge...

I have had ov spotting one, the first two cycles after my mc. is supposed to be a good sign for fertility.

little and we have Dr One!

cheese I went to stay and play today with DS. Arg, preggo central. I was so glum, kept trying to tell myself that it just shows how easy it is to get pg, that I didn't want their baby, and they might not have had it easy. But all I could think was IWANTONEIWANTONEWHERE'SMINE

Stress central over here. My boobs have deflated overnight, I havent felt sick at all today and I have had a bit of diarrhea tonight, which is exactly what happened when I had my mmc . Am trying to stay positive but its not going very well at the moment. Am back at mw tomorrow for booking in appointment (supposed to be next week but she is doing me early as she is on holiday) so I suppose I will see what she says. I dont think I can cope if it happens again Hope everyone else is having better days!!

one I'm glad you've mentioned this. DH and I started TTC on Thursday night, Friday morning I had spotting... Unusual but would make sense if it's a sign of ovulation.
Am on my phone at the mo so will catch up on everyone's news a bit later!
:-)

Oh, Chuckle...am holding out hope for you and holding your hand. What time is your appointment? Can she send you for a scan or would you have to go through your GP?

Yes, I was surprised when I googled it to learn it was a phenomenon all on its own, and that it supposed to be a good sign. I went and joined the august bfp thread as was feeling hopeful, but I'm back to my usual "meh" place now. It's so weird how quickly I've gone from thinking "I think I want to have a baby" (Summer 2011) to asking OH (September 2011) to ttc (December 2011) to pg (January 2012) to mc (March 2012) and through those massive oceans of desperation and distress to to this ... whatever this mood is. Again, not in a depressed way, still feeling uber calm (ommmmm! ).

Fx wild re the opk tcc business! Good sign Hayle, Fx there too! Is there anyone else in or about to be in the 2ww?

Appointment 9.45. I am guessing / hoping she will be able to send me for a scan but I don't know for certain. Will try phoning the GP when I get back if I dont have any luck with her.

Chuckle - how many weeks are you? Ask her to send you for a scan? Boobs do fluctuate, and stress can cause an upset tummy along with countless other things. Any spotting? Let us know how it goes.

Will be thinking of you and sheldon tomorrow.

littlemiss sorry to see you here as I'd followed your BFP success on the tycoon threads the month after me. I will keep my fingers tightly crossed that you conceive again quickly.

On phone so will be rubbish at name checking, but enjoy catching up on your news. Exciting about ov spotting - never knew about that...