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Fantastic 40+ thread - part 7

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lolfactor · 28/06/2012 20:41

Shiny new thread - over here everyone Smile

OP posts:
goldengirl71 · 09/09/2012 19:47

Good to hear you are healing, IrishMammy x

lotsofcheese · 09/09/2012 22:09

Thanks to all for kind thought & wishes - it's nice to be among those who understand.

I'm feeling a bit more pregnant today - think my boobs have literally grown overnight! A bit nauseated at times & hormonal in general - doing stupid things already Blush

My expectations are still low. Like Irish, I am on of the 2% who had a m/c after a good heartbeat at 8+ weeks. And a molar pregnancy is about 1 in a thousand. And severe, early PE about the same.

While it makes me unique (and not in a good way), it means I have little confidence in statistics & things that "shouldn't" happen.

Have bought a clear-blue digital & will check later this week & next to ensure the HCG is rising. Will make a GP spot this week & start on aspirin too. Here we go again....

Irishmammybread · 09/09/2012 22:58

cheese, glad you're feeling more pregnant, must be a good sign!
Hopefully the statistics will work in your favour this time,though I know how hard it is not to worry. Reading your story about your mmc after a good scan was one of the reasons I went for an extra scan at 10 weeks, I'm so glad I did because otherwise I would have been blissfully unaware until I started to bleed (at 11w6d) that baby had died. We would have probably told the girls by then and it would have made a heartbreaking situation even more difficult.

Eire, triplets! That must be so much fun. What are the chances of that happening again when you concieve next? We had a family birthday today too,our old chocolate labrador was 15! She doesn't do very much now but she can still potter around and she eats well and wags her tail so we'll let her keep going for now. The kids insisted on birthday cake so we made a chocolate one with candles for the humans and a shaped dog food one for the dogs. They sang happy birthday to her, she looked very confused.
I don't know what brands of aspirin are available either in the UK or Ireland , I've not bought any yet. From discussions on other threads it seems the enteric coated aspirin is better tolerated.I think baby aspirin is usually 75mg. I'm going to have a chat with our local pharmacist, he often seems better informed than the doctors!

Hi jksfii, good advice from goldengirl! Good luck on your ttc journey, I've found this thread a great source of information and support.

I'm back in the EPU for a rescan tomorrow. I thought the bleeding had stopped but it's started up a bit again . With my first MC I had to go back for repeated scans ,it took a while for it to be complete. The staff are lovely but the EPU is in the antenatal department so it's a difficult place to be when you're feeling emotionally very shaky. I just want this to be over now to try to start coming to terms with it.

hippychick66 · 09/09/2012 23:29

Just a quick message for my old matey gum - Sweetie, you and i have been on this thread for so very long. We've watched others come, give up and go and we've watched others come, get their babies and go. if dedication was enough we'd both have our cheeky last babies. I am going to buck the trend and say that i think the holiday is more important for you right now. It's not exactly a choice between a baby and a holiday it's a choice between a holiday or a slight chance at a baby (and at our age it is quite a slim chance - sadly).

Trying for a baby for 3 years has taught me many things, one of which is this :- we need to make the most of the wonderful little people we have already managed to bring into the world. This holiday would be a chance to spend time with the people who love you most and it would be a shame to cancel or move it.

I know it's entrirely up to you what you do and unlike me you have continued to get pregnant well into your 40s - so maybe there is a beautiful golden egg waiting to pop out for you but personally I simply have to stop believing it will happen for me. i know how bloody awful it is to have something that you can do with ease taken away from you. Getting pregnant, staying pregnant and having a good labour was something i felt i could do and do well and yet fucking mother nature has had the last laugh on me.

i so hope you are rewarded for your dedication but please do take the time to stop and admire your wonderful family too and where better than a fabulous exotic holiday. XXX

hopefulgum · 10/09/2012 02:03

Thanks Hippy. Wise words, and yes I think it is so important to love and enjoy the family I have (and I think I do that). As for the holiday, I think it will definitely happen,and I don't think a baby will stop it.

For now I am not planning well-timed sex for conception for a few months, but I won't stop it if it happens IYSWIM. Because I do realise my chance of getting pregnant is about 1%, so highly unlikely.

Eire and Irish, I too was of the 2% who had great scan at 7 weeks (with both miscarriages) only to miscarry at about 9-10 weeks. So heartbreaking after the good news and hopeful expectations. And the second time I thought for sure it just couldn't happen again. Mother nature is bloody cruel sometimes.

On a happier note, the sun is shining so I can catch up on all the laundry! Hurray. I have Mondays at home, but I work hard all day to catch up on the messConfused

goldengirl71 · 10/09/2012 11:26

Cheese, great news that you're feeling pregnant. Horrible stories about MMC after healthy heartbeat scans terrify me..no wonder you are remaining realistic. I wish you all the very best for this pregnancy x

Hippy, your advice is spot-on. I personally promise to stop trying for a baby if I manage to pop just one out Wink

Today I'm 12/13DPO (depending on who you believe) and have had a significant rise in temperature. This caused much excitement until I POAS which proved negative Sad My period is due tomorrow, at which point I will implement all my New TTC Resolutions. Watch this space...

lotsofcheese · 10/09/2012 12:02

Hello everyone! Skiving at work - severely lacking motivation today after a busy weekend!

Not feeling at all pregnant today & convincing myself it's a chemical pregnancy/early loss. Trying not too think too much about it but need to step away from Dr Google!!

Found some research online, saying that in over 40's, the chance of a m/c after a heartbeat is nearer 20% - that 2% figure gave me false hope last time......

Anyway golden am crossing everything for you. (As well as trying not to obsess!!)

diege · 10/09/2012 12:14

Hello! Great news Cheese on pregnancy symptoms. I have everything crossed for you that this will be an uneventful and boringly normal 9 months for you x
Irish Hope the rescan goes ok. It must indeed be stressful havign to wait in antenatal. I wonder if they thought of that when they planned it? Fingers crossed that things go ok.
Hippy!!! Lovely to see you, and good advice there. It is so easy to take forgranted what we have, and it does sound that you are really enjoying your boys and are able to move on.
Gum Enjoy the lovely weather. I know what you mean about washing - sad that it's the first think I think of when the sun's out Hmm You plans re: ttc-ing sound sensible and realistic, and you have that lovely holiday at the end to look forward to too.
At work looking out of the window as grey and gloom - where has the summer gone?? It'll be Christmas before we know it!! (sorry Golden Wink)

diege · 10/09/2012 12:17

x-posts there Cheese - please don't stress about symptoms, they do come and go and it is so early too. How many weeks are you now?

goldengirl71 · 10/09/2012 15:13

Just realised/remembered that when I POAS this morning at 10.25 it wasn't my first morning wee - that was at 7am when I was stumbling around with no glasses on and forgot to test. Could this have made a difference to the result?

lotsofcheese · 10/09/2012 16:01

Yes, golden it could!! 1st morning urine is the most accurate. And I'm a firm believer in 1st response; hence not being able to interpret a different brand. Looking forward to hearing your update xxx

MiaAlexandrasmummy · 10/09/2012 18:15

Hi all. Firstly, a big hoorah for cheese and your BFP! If you are worried about (lack of) symptoms, remember that I was freaking out as I had none for a long time - and even now, really don't notice that I am pg, except when I can't fit into tight spaces, or the bump decides to have a party.

irish so Angry that you have to be seen in the EPU. Unnecessarily cruel. When I had my mc, I was whisked off to a separate part of the hospital.

jskfii welcome here, keep asking questions, and you will find that someone will probably have the knowledge and / or experience to help you.

hopeful I am a big believer in dreams. I have had a lot of very symbolic ones about Mia recently, after a very quiet time. Then again, it is the lead-up to her birthday on Saturday, and while I am feeling calmer about it, it is definitely there in my sub-conscious. The Mia's Wood legals are taking longer than we thought, but really hope it will be sorted in time. We want to go there with her friends to have a picnic, pick blackberries, play hide-and-seek in the long grass, and plant a special tree for her.

golden we are having chicken tonight... any recipes you'd care to share?! FX for good news of your POAS tomorrow.

Big wave to everybody else here. I am certainly reading everything, but don't always have a lot to share at the moment.

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goldengirl71 · 10/09/2012 20:43

Just spotted what I think is very faint brown stuff on the toilet tissue. Period on its way Sad Angry Sad

hippychick66 · 10/09/2012 20:57

Ha ha - peaceful? Hippy!!!! Not exactly :)

My dear old hubbie was so good really, I kept moving the goal posts and extending the cut off point and he managed to keep up the enthusiasm. If I'm honest I'm still hoping for a late miracle and I still get egg whites and achey boobs etc. It never really ends!

golden I'm honestly not telling anyone to stop trying. You're in a different place to me and you are.... Gulp 5 years younger - you lucky thing :)

Sending much love to Miasmum. Will be 'virtually' holding your hand on Saturday. X

hippychick66 · 10/09/2012 21:05

Hope it is implantation not period - but I guess you know your body best. It's feckin' hard isn't it? :(

goldengirl71 · 10/09/2012 22:38

Hippy, I feel like ripping someone's head off - and it aint hormones Sad

EireHead · 11/09/2012 01:59

Sorry, I thought she was advising to accept what happens, and to enjoy what one has, and for the other posert to relax and enjoy herself.

CaliBee · 11/09/2012 07:47

Hi all....I'm so glad I found this thread.
I'm 42..and a half (!)...it suddenly seems to make all the difference again. I have three children 22, 18 and 15 from my first marriage and have been ttc with my lovely man for nearly 5 months. He is significantly younger than me (20's...ahem cough) but we're both fit and healthy. Sooo...I'm currently waiting results of tests (HSG, ultrasound, and the usual blood tests...oh and semen counts from OH ). We cant see the consultant until the end of October...sadly 2 days before OH leaves to join the army :(. Was really really hoping for a sticky bfp by then, but hopes are slowly fading. Even been tempted to buy clomid online raaaaa.
Anyway I'm hoping I can join in here....it may just keep me sane lol

goldengirl71 · 11/09/2012 09:35

Eire, I was joking love Wink

Calibee, welcome to the thread Thanks It's great to have a real live cougar amongst us! Shock Clomid online Hmm Is that really possible? How long is your OH going away for? I hope your dreams come true. There are women getting pregnant and having babies on this thread so stick around Smile

Well, my period arrived this morning after an evening of subtle beige on the loo roll (thanks, Mother Nature, for the gentle intro. Bitch.) I am very, very fed up, not least because my temperatures were high until this morning [nods to Diege]. So...I have some New TTC Resolutions:

  1. I will not be temping any more after 3DPO (this gives fertilityfriend enough time to confirm ovulation). There is absolutely no point in scrutinising temperatures each day during the 2ww and it only serves to raise my hopes cruelly. I will only begin temping from day 9 of my cycle, too.

  2. I will not be having sex five times during my fertile window like I did this month. Since my miscarriage I've had loads of well-timed sex and 'more is more' obviously isn't working for us. It isn't fair on DP with his erectile dysfuction problems around ovulation and when I got pregnant in January we DTD on the day of ov, two days before & four days before. I'm not sure how restrained I will actually be this time around but I would hope to be able to DTD on the day of ovulation, the day before and maybe one other day somewhere in the fertile window.

  3. I will use my Pre-Seed religiously (it arrived yesterday)

  4. I will never ever again dig around in my vagina looking for fertile mucus. Normal women do not do this. If it's there, it's there, if it's not...that's Pre-Seed's job, right?

  5. I will lose the 13lbs required to get me to the weight I was when I fell pregnant in January. The pregnancy plus quitting smoking caused the weight gain and I wonder whether we have an 'optimum' weight for conceiving quicker (thoughts, please)

  6. I will try to Get A Life.

randomimposter · 11/09/2012 10:02

tried to post the other small hours of the morning, but post wouldn't accept, so have popped back to try again...

gist of post was... big squish to my old mates Hippy and Gum.

Waves to all. For the benefits of the newbies, I am 44, and now 36 weeks pregnant with DS2, so am one of the ones Golden refers to. But for a long time I wasn't. It took nearly 3 years and 5 MCs (3 of them MMCs at 12w, 2 early ones) to get here, so I know oh too well how the disappointment and angst and "it's not fair" feels.

In fact I was about to throw in the towel, had stopped taking the supplements (DHEA, Agnus Castus, High dose Folic Acid and preg vits), wallowed in a large quantity of OysterBaySauvignonBlanc that my amazing Scooby pals sent me, and enjoyed Christmas and New Year 2011. Then in Jan I got a BFP, and from the start I somehow felt this was different. Of course I had wobbles, and paranoia, and stressy days, but underlying that I felt this might work out. And god willing, in 3 weeks or less it will.

Much luck and love to you all.

somewherebecomingrain · 11/09/2012 11:12

hello all - lovely from jollster. golden so sorry about AF - your resolutions are good.
i must admit that i can't imagine, if this PG works out, wanting another one further into my 40s. Being PG is an ordeal IMO and I love what life is outside kids and want to have that again. gum i am just imagining how great it would be to have several kids, fairly grown up, and the space and autonomy to lose a kilo and go on hols to Thailand. but we're all different.
eirehead your history is really interesting. again i can't imagine wanting another child in your position but we're all different.
anyway just expressing these sentiments cause so sick and dizzy and moody i'm just praying i never have to do this again.

hugs to all
xxxx

somewherebecomingrain · 11/09/2012 11:16

oh yes, as well as sick and dizzy and moody did i mention the anxiety... anyway chin up.
hello newbies
calibee i like your story hope to hear more.
xx

goldengirl71 · 11/09/2012 11:44

Ah, Jollster! I love reading your story (albeit a painful one). May I ask, inbetween MCs, did you have a 'conception drought' of 6 months or more? How did you manage that?

I would really like to know the intercourse patterns which resulted in all the pregnancies on here (I am not a voyuer or a pervert - I would like to rule out any abundance/timing of sex factors). Would anyone be prepared to divulge any information which I may find useful? If I sound desperate it's because I am. It has hit me particularly hard this month. Perhaps because Lotsofcheese has found success relatively quickly (you know I'm thrilled aswell, Cheese) I feel like I'm being left behind somehow. Is it normal that none of my eggs have been worthy of fertilisation these last six months? Could it be that I won't fall pregnant for maybe, like...ever? Is it the energy drinks? Is it because I have a cat? Is it because DP refuses to lose the briefs and wear boxers? Is it because I eat seventy-two bars of chocolate a day? Is it because I go to the gym during the 2ww? Is it because I don't produce EWCM? Is it because DP uses Viagra? Is it because I stole a whole roast chicken?

I went for a long walk to the shop to ponder these themes and I don't have the answers. Maybe you all can help me rationalise this achy sadness and tell me your conception tales.

So....the shop. I decided to arm myself with arrival-of-period goodies with which to console myself all day before DP gets home (I'm on a one-day strike from my freelance work. Needs must). I have rented a DVD: a comedy featuring John C Reilly and lots of filthy swearing and smut - my kinda film. I have bought Maltesers (family sized), energy drink, O.K magazine, fig rolls, a large chocolate bar packed with whole hazelnuts and Hello magazine featuring a stunning-looking Peaches Geldof's wedding. Married at 23 with a new baby, a rich daddy and legs up to her armits - f**king bitch Wink

goldengirl71 · 11/09/2012 11:48

MiasMummy, you are very cheeky asking me for chicken recipes. Just because I steal chickens does not automatically mean I can cook, right? Wink