TTC/Pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 8

[Arianrhod]

A positive thread for all those diagnosed with High or Very High NK Cells and looking to start TTC or already pregnant on Prednisolone and/or Intralipid treatment.

Newcomers very much welcome!

Part 7 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1452035-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-7

Part 6 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1419032-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-6

Part 5 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1391787-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-5

Part 4 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1366323-TTC-Pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-4

Part 3 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1348773-TTC-pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-3

Part 2 here www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1323594-TTC-pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar-part-2

Part 1 here www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1236324-TTC-pregnancy-on-Prednisolone-or-similar

free I felt like this the other day. A bit of chocolate, lie on your left and count. I hope you are ok now and have had some reassuring boots xx
belly That is fab news, really pleased :)

I really think that the thread is starting a lucky phase , so good luck to everyone :)

I am ok, I don't know if babe is on the move, I seem to have someting wedged under my ribs on the right side, wether it is a foot/bum or head is anyones guess. I have a scan tomorrow so all will be revealed!

waves to all xx

mollie crossed posts. I wondered about giving up. I think if this pregnancy had not worked out we would not have tried again, but it is easier said than done. Keep lurking and post any news when you have some :)

willitbe I'm with you on that, I've also thought (increasingly lately) whether I should just give it all up and accept that perhaps my body is just too old now, but stubbornness kicks in and I think I'll just keep going a little longer, to see what happens. Lurk away, or join in as you feel like it, you're always welcome :)

free what happened with the counting?

Yes I remember you getting the same thing the other day Battery. For some reason this time the icy, sugary drink and then lying on my side didn't have the same effect as usual. I did get a bit of movement but not nearly as much as normal. Anyway, to answer you and Ari too I actually went to hospital - can't quite believe this is the first time in this pregnancy I have resorted to going! I've been close many a time but at 36 weeks I feel I have done well to hold off this long.

Monitored the heartbeat for a good half hour or more and everything seems fine. The baby was obviously sleeping but we indulged in a spot of Baby Bothering with iced water etc and it responded nicely, and has moved a bit more since coming home too. Movements have definitely changed though - but I am hoping that is down to big baby, less space and also having changed position. That might be what has happened with you too Battery in terms of it changing position and now prodding your ribs? Good that you will find out for sure tomorrow with the scan.

Hello again willitbe sorry you are having a tough time of it with the AF. As for when to stop I have no idea. Am I right in thinking you have three children already? It's hard for me to put my own stance on it as I have never wanted a lot of children and as I am not a mother already I don't think I can fully relate. I feel now if I were in that position I feel I might not bother putting my body under the stress of it all again really. But like I said, I can't yet relate properly to the need you are feeling. If you feel you can carry on and it is something that you really want to do, why not? But if it is something that will really take over your life and make day to day living worse then maybe it is worth having a good think about it. What does DH say?

Congrats bellyd! I definitely think the summer seems to help with our luck on this thread. Perhaps the vitamin d and other good things we get from more sunshine really makes a difference.

Great news helterskelter - must be a huge relief to be at the end of the first trimester.

'Baby bothering' is a great expression! Glad it worked out. I found (have I said this before?) playing music close by sometimes helped - something with a beat, like Seven Nation Army! Poor baby. Got my 6 week review tomorrow, wondering if I'll 'flunk' the Edinburgh test or not!

Just popping in to say hello before the packers come tomorrow and I've got no computer as we're moving on Friday. I feel like I've spent weeks clearing cupboards and drawers and ebaying etc. Can't wait for it all to be over and to just spend a little bit of time relaxing and enjoying ds.

I haven't been able to read very far back but it's great to see some good news on here at last. The bottom of that list was looking depressingly empty for a while.

Free - I can't believe it's only three weeks now. I feel very excited for you! Also, I think there's something quite nice about knowing Mr S will be there when your baby is born. It kind of completes the journey somehow.

Hello to everyone else!

Also just popping in to say I had a scan today in it would seem baby is in the extended breech position. The consultant is not too worried as he said it could all change over the next few weeks.

coconut good luck with the move xx

HI Battery, yes it could and probably will change. I felt sure mine was going to stay breech but it didn't. Glad all was well with the scan.

Hello Coconut yes I guess it IS quite good that I am seeing this journey through from start to finish with Mr S! That's if nothing happens before he is back from holiday on the 15th of course... Are you finding it hectic moving? It's all kicked off here too - far too much to do. I have lists and lists of utility companies to contact, insurance, movers from two different locations, countless home based things to buy/arrange delivery of and that's not even counting all the stuff we are now having to do in preparation for the baby. It's suddenly got very stressful.

Iggi you made me laugh earlier - I was telling DH (in the other room) about you suggesting Seven Nation Army for some Baby Bothering and he thought you'd said the Salvation Army. We had a good giggle about waking up to huge banging cymbals :)

On top of the overwhelming amount of household crap we have to get through before completing the sale on Friday (we are also short of furniture, getting baby things, having docs appts, DH is going through an audit at work...) I am feeling bloody awful with a dreadful cough and cold. My chest hurts and I have that horrible taste of infection in when coughing. Started to cough up some good so hopefully that is a good sign. Have to say this all started before I went off the Hydroxy (first day without it today) so can't connect the two. Even had to cancel meet up in town with Pebbles earlier, just couldn't handle the thought of the trains and heading into Soho at rush hour.

Also have been falling behind with work - my brain really isn't working properly at the moment! I have a good few pieces of work to do before officially starting maternity leave (well, starting to claim Maternity Allowance) on the 1st. So all very hectic and not the best time to be ill.

20 days to go anyway. Tick tock!

Can I ask if anyone can calm me down. I have posted this on SO thread has well. I went to GP to get FSH, LH and oestradiol done-was told they were OK. Then looked on google and am freaking myself out that I have no eggs left and they are poor quality

Sorry you're freaking out about it Lemon. I have no idea about the tests as never had them done but surely if your GP said they were ok they would be? I hope so. I am sure one of the others who has more experience with this will come along and help you asap. Post the levels so they can check it out.

lemon what are your results ? why dont you believe the doc?

I have put my results on SO thread.

FSH and LH are good 7.1 and 6.5 and oestradiol was 126. When spoke to receptionist she said GP had seen results and said normal. Then I used dr google. I know stupid and you can all slap me.

Then found lots of pages about ovarian reserves. Basically they were all saying at day 3 of cycle oestradiol should be low ideally under 50 but anything over 100 is regarded has significantly abnormal. One of the pages were saying lots of doctors are falsely reassured by normal FSH and LH without thinking about the oestradiol

From my understanding FSH stimulates the eggs and encourages the making of oestrogen and oestrogen levels feedback to inhibit the production of the FSH. So they were all saying that by having a high oestadiol it create a false low FSH, because you have all that extra oestrogen being feedback therefore lowering the FSH number. This is typically seen in patient with very poor ovarian reserves who will not respond well to stimulation. (you can tell I have spent a lot of time on google overnight). Some were even saying this is seen in peri menopausal people who are trying to make their next egg before the end of the previous cycle.

I do not know what my AMH level is because that was done by Mr S, who is on holiday at the moment and have not been able to arrange an appointment with him.

Morning ladies - lemon I'd wait to see what Mr S says before freaking out too much, I know what you're saying about high oestradiol levels possibly creating a false low FSH but you know, that might not be your case at all. Are you taking any oestrogen-enhancing supplements, as that could be a contributing factor? Plus everything I've read seems to say although these day 3 tests can be an indicator of all kinds of things, they aren't necessarily so, which is why consultants often take them with a bit of a pinch of salt, preferring the AMH test for a more accurate picture of what's going on instead. And bear in mind - you can be peri-menopausal for years (I read the other day it can go on for 10 years or more!) but that doesn't mean you're not fertile. Given that this particular thing is a concern for me, I've done quite a bit of reading around peri-menopause and decided to largely ignore it for now. Seriously, try not to worry (yes, I know, I'm not good that that either!) until you've seen Mr S.

Incidentally, I'm supposed to be seeing Mr S at 4:50pm at NLC today, but I see people are saying he's on holiday?? Since Cheryl confirmed he would be going through additional tests and giving me the forms to get them done today, I'm a little confused! Actually that's another sore point entirely, I believed OH and I were getting tested at the scan appt today, as per my last conversation with Mr S, so OH arranged to work from home today so he could come along and we arranged childcare for DD - only to find out that no, tests can only be done at TDL in London. I'm not a happy bunny, that means more delays in getting OH tested. Aaarrggghhhh.

Good luck for coconut and free in your frenetic house-moving times ... free I moved house when I was 8.5 months preg with DD - I wouldn't recommend it, but it can be done :)

Thanks Ari I may have gotten the wrong end of the stick, I think I was told Mr S was away so that was why no sooner appt than the one offered. It may be that his clinics are fully booked until he goes away, which is why you are being seen today.

In case I have freaked anyone else out care said Mr S said that an oestradiol up to 200 was OK.

Hope everyone else is OK. Good luck with the scan Ari

It's like I magically hear the words AMH and decide to come on and have a read. Lemon DO NOT PANIC and most important DO NOT GOOGLE or go on fertility friends to look up low AMH.

Mine is pants all it means is that you need to crack on and maybe not faff around too much with the less invasive treatments, depending on your other issues. So we went straight to ivf rather than doing iui / clomid etc.
It is not a diagnosis, it does not mean you will go menopausal tomorrow, or any of the other things you are thinking
xxx

Hi to everyone else xx

Well said helter :)

Ari, why don't you call TML and see if you can book a slot for your OH to take his sample in (or "generate" it there) this afternoon. The blood tests there operate on a drop in basis but the SA tests you need to book a slot. You might be OK though if you call first thing. It might work out that he can go there whilst you're having your scan.

Hi to everyone. Sorry, this is a flying visit. Just wanted to post for Ari.

Oh and to say to lemon, I got very depressed and negative when I got my blood results too but Mr S explained them to me and they weren't nearly as bad as I'd dreaded so try to lay of the self analysis, it won't do you any good.

I love how we all give out words of wisdom which none of us ever managed to follow ourselves

Lemon your results sound really good to me. Mine were worse than yours and I was told by my new immune doc earlier this week that they were excellent (for comparison - FSH 10, LH 6, oestradiol

Thanks kittens, I actually ended up ringing Cheryl (and she answered, which is a first for me, usually I have to leave a message) and she explained that with TDL you have to book appts for SA tests, just as you say. Unfortunately OH hasn't got time to get up to TDL and back this afternoon (work is just a bugger at the moment), so we'll try to book an appt next week for both him to 'do his thang' for the SA tests and both of us to get blood taken for the blood tests. And to be honest, I suspect OH wouldn't go if I wasn't there to drag him .. ! :) Thanks for the explanation tho, wish I'd spoken to you before endless confusing emails with Cheryl!

london Did you get those done with Mr G? I'd be interested to hear what the turnaround time is for your results, I'm not sure my sample has even got to Athens yet for those tests!

Dr G, not Mr G. I'm getting my consultants' titles muddled up!!

Ari, the turnaround is supposed to be 10 days, but that is just for the bloods. I haven't actually had the infections tests yet, but that will be my next step when I have the money. I am really interested in that. Will probably do what you did and go through Serum to save ££.

london how long did you have to wait to get an appointment with Dr G?

Can't help with the results etc but I think I can help with Mr S being away/also being there for appointments. He told me he's going away for work first and then on holiday, so am assuming there might be a period where he returns in the middle.

Good luck with the Chicago tests London! I spent hours pouring over Dr Beer's book too. It's great to read about all the positive stories in there too.