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TTC Super Ovulation part 2

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suemays · 17/05/2012 17:45

hey ladies,

There are a few of us who are ttc after mc's, however there will be ladies out there who are also ttc for the first time or second or third without success. If anyone is on, considering or had success on a super ovulation programme then do join us. How long did it take ? Did you try IUI with it.. ? Did you have PCOS?

Kicking this off and hoping some of you will join....

part 1 here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1385998-TTC-Super-Ovulation

OP posts:
Chasinrainbows · 27/08/2012 05:24

Jaffa - thanks for your response.i was thinking it was game over already. I did fmu but bfn today on 11 dpo too. Think I'll try and wait till 14 dpo now ( lol at the fact I think I'll beable to ) . Hope all is well with you :)

jaffajiffy · 27/08/2012 05:31

Well it's nerve-wracking, isn't it. Because we have prescriptions to fill for the early part of our cycle, it's not a bad idea to test every day even though normal people might make themselves wait. Just do whatever your nerves can cope with! And fingers crossed for that bfp x

Chasinrainbows · 27/08/2012 17:22

I think I'll test again in the morning.ive been feeling a tad nauseas which I only get when pregnant . Just thought it may be the pills. I'll keep you informed :)

buzzybee123 · 27/08/2012 21:02

pebbles sorry about the bfn :(

mel I thought Central homecare only charged for weekend delivery, but it might depend on where you live?? I got my first Ovitrelle from Boots for £37 but then get it from CHC along with my other drugs for £20. As others have said 10 days is fine, anything shorter could be a problem

breezy I always look at the bags and think 'could fit a dead body in that' why on earth do you need all that crap to go holiday with??? Sorry can't help on the TMI front, I'm on the gonal f. Scan results were good :)

well have been away to lovely Dorset for the weekend, now back to work tomorrow :(

Mel3062 · 28/08/2012 07:54

Thanks buzzy bee, that's what I thought to so I'm
Querying it! They said its because order has to be over a certain amount but it doesn't state that anywhere and now I'm desperate with bank hol so wouldn't have time to get pres back and try elsewhere frustrating!! Just finished Letrozole and had awful migraine again for 3 days I wonder if it's that :(

Mel3062 · 28/08/2012 07:55

Hope you've all had a lovely weekend despite the rain!!

Mel3062 · 28/08/2012 07:55

Ooh good luck chasing rainbows!

Havingkittens · 28/08/2012 10:43

Mel, I had to pay £14 delivery for Ovitrelle from Central Homecare when I wasn't getting the Gonal F with it. I can't remember what the minimum spend is for free delivery though as the Gonal F pushes the total up quite considerably. If you have to pay over £20 for delivery (assuming the cost varies according to location/distance) then it may be worth ordering two? That way you are not really spending the extra £20 on a pen you may not need as you would've spent it on delivery anyway. Just a thought? Cheryl doesn't actually work at NLC so she won't be able to send you one. I don't think they send them out anyway, you have to go in and pick one up. Oh, and if you do that you need to call first to make sure they have it in stock as the don't always. Oh, by the way, I was on my 5th SO cycle. I'd also recently had a hysteroscopy which may or may not have helped. The other difference was that I'd been taking hydroxycholorquinine from the beginning of the cycle and didn't take pred until I got a BFP. There is still a bit of a question mark (which Mr S would dismiss) with some of us about whether the pred was preventing conception.

Good luck to the testers this week!

Mel3062 · 28/08/2012 16:28

Thanks Hun I wish I'd thought to get 2 though I don't think I could as prescription just said 1 :( thanks for the info it was interesting. I hope the pred doesn't stop conception :( what is a hysterioscopy?? How did you manage to get one did mr s suggest it?? What was the hydroxy for? Again how did you get that did mr s change the pred for you? Had awful
Migraine again for 3 days I'm sure it's the Letrozole xx

Havingkittens · 28/08/2012 17:49

Ah, yes, I didn't think of the fact that you'd need a prescription for two.

Lots of people have got pregnant on pred so probably no need to worry, it's just that there are a handful of us who used to get pregnant very easily and then seemed to have struggled since being on pred. Mr S would probably say it was more to do with our age though. I am 42, I think Ari is 44, not sure about Sue, can't remember who else there was.

A hysteroscopy is an investigation to see if there is any scarring, adhesions or blockages in the fallopian tubes causing difficulty in conceiving. I had mine on the NHS. It was literally the only thing they were able to do to help me because of my age. The reason I had it was that I had already had a HyFosy, recommended by Mr S, which is another type of scan to check for scarring and there had been some possible areas of scarring seen. Lucky they turned out to be nothing. The initial reason for having this in the first place was that my periods were extremely light and short and that I had been struggling to conceive. I have had 4 miscarriages and 2 terminations for trisomy issues, one of which was not completed properly so had to have a further ERPC, so in total that was 7 surgeries, so they thought there may be a chance some damage may have occurred. I was given the all clear at the hysteroscopy. The reason I mentioned it was that it can often be the case that women can be more fertile than usual following such a procedure. I think the same is said of a Lap and Dye, which is another type of investigation to check for blocked tubes etc. Hope that helps!

I asked Mr S if I could come off the pred for a bit as I had been taking it for over a year and it was making me feel crappy for about 2/3 of every month, it took me a good few days after coming off it to feel normal again and then it would be only about a week or so before I'd be on it again. Something I was prepared to put up with if there was a means to and end but not if I was not even sure if I would get pregnant. As I have Very High NK Cells, Mr S prescribes Hydroxychloroquinine in some of these cases so he was happy to put me on it instead of pred until I got pregnant and then adding the 40mg pred once I got a positive test. Hydroxy (for short), is an anti malarial drug which Mr S uses in addition to 40mg pred for those who have Very High NK Cells and have miscarried on the treatment already. I haven't miscarried on the treatment but wanted to have a break from the pred. I think because it's taken me such a long time to get pregnant Mr S just wants to throw everything at it as this could be my last chance!

I didn't get any ill effects from letrozole but I think coming off the pred gave me headaches. Not migraines though.

Mel3062 · 29/08/2012 06:42

Very helpful thanks Hun. I'm 37 with borderline high/ v high nk cells. I've had 4 miscarriages gradually occurring earlier so hopefully this superovulation and nk plan will work. I may ask my nhs consultant if their is anything they can do as it did take us 18 month last time to concieve. It's interesting how you suddenly change medication and that's it!! Maybe it's coming off the pred that's causing me the migraines then ummm thanks hun hope you're ok xx knowledge is power as they say and it's helpful knowing about these things.

Chasinrainbows · 29/08/2012 09:28

Thanks mel 13 dpo and still bfn ...... No af though ! ..... Yet Hmm

Mel3062 · 30/08/2012 06:29

Fingers are crossed for you hun x

duggs1976 · 30/08/2012 08:17

Can I ask a question of you ladies as I'm out of touch with SO as not done for a while. How many days past ovitrelle trigger shot would u expect there to be a bfn? And then if pg subsequently a bfp? I know it varies but there is a lot of cumulative experience on here now with trigger shots and lines thought I'd ask?

Mel3062 · 30/08/2012 08:51

Not sure Hun it's a tricky one, I normally test 12 days past injection
Which is 10 days after predosolone unless af gets there first like this month grrrr x

Havingkittens · 30/08/2012 09:25

I never bothered to test to see if it was out of my system, as such, but I never got a line at 10dpo when I was testing to see if I could come off the Pred so I'd say it would be out of your system by then. Looking back through the thread, my extremely feint (just about visible to the human eye) BFP appeared 13 days after my trigger shot.

Pebbles73 · 30/08/2012 12:43

I tested 10 dpo and still got a very feint line from the ovitrelle.

duggs1976 · 30/08/2012 15:09

Oh well I'm 9 days past trigger shot and there was a very faint line this morning. But i guess that means nowt. I'll test again tomorrow and see if it has for lighter if so I knows it's at least coming out. Our ovitrelle pens are 250mg which is 6500 something or other so should be 1000 exiting the body each day, but I know we all vary. I feel about as knocked up as leaf so not holding out much hope.

Arianrhod · 30/08/2012 15:14

I tested 10dpo on previous cycles, which is 12 days past injection, and got a negative. I then test again at 12 dpo to see if any pos line.

Having said that I haven't bothered with the 10dpo test this month, partly because I am still not certain when I ovd and partly because I figured the other cycles have always cleared the ovitrelle by that time anyway.

14 days past trigger tomorrow, so either 14 dpo if I ovd naturally on the afternoon of my trigger shot or 12 dpo if I didn't. So, testing tomorrow, but not holding out any hope as getting what I am certain are pre-AF cramps now :(. I'm expecting AF to show its ugly head tomorrow morning - most likely right after I test! Mr Sod and his law.

Just for info, I got through airport security with my stash of gonal-f with no problems at all, the letter from Central Homecare did the trick nicely. Phew. :)

Pebbles73 · 30/08/2012 17:57

Mel this hadn't happened to me before on letrezole (on cycle 4) but I have had a two day migraine now and it's making me feel crap . Doesn't help that very busy at work! Hope yours had gone now and wonder if it is the letrezole

Good luck testing Ari and Duggs, fingers crossed for you.Glad you got your drugs through ok Ari and hope you had a lovely time.

We spent the long weekend in Devon at my brother in law's house, they have two girls aged 3 & 5 and I was very popular this weekend. They jumped all over me the whole time and wanted me to take them to the toilet, play games etc. Was so lovely and makes me realise what I am missing, my dh is soo good with them too and would make a lovely Dad Sad

Mel3062 · 30/08/2012 18:08

Oh Hun it's awful I have to go to bed but can't do that when I'm back at work. Not sure if it's Letrozole or the pred so I'm logging it down. Hope you feel better soon. It tends to get me over my right eye for some reason. Xx

Mel3062 · 30/08/2012 18:09

Oh I'm a lot better thanks xx

Pebbles73 · 30/08/2012 18:45

Thanks Mel mine had been right over both my eyes. Managed to get rid of it yesterday but not budging today. Think will have to give Zumba a miss tonight. Glad you are feeling better.xx

Mel3062 · 30/08/2012 19:27

Aww I do symphasise I find no tablets touch it either :( x

Mel3062 · 31/08/2012 06:53

Good luck ari and duggs.
Hope you're feeling better pebbles.
Got my 4th scan this am let's see if this increased 7.5 has done its magic I hope so!! X

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