TTC Super Ovulation part 2

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hey ladies,

There are a few of us who are ttc after mc's, however there will be ladies out there who are also ttc for the first time or second or third without success. If anyone is on, considering or had success on a super ovulation programme then do join us. How long did it take ? Did you try IUI with it.. ? Did you have PCOS?

Kicking this off and hoping some of you will join....

part 1 here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1385998-TTC-Super-Ovulation

I emailed yesterday to request 21 August, when I will be 6+4. Obviously, being the weekend I've not heard back yet. So, we're a week apart.

Doh I'll only be 5.3! I had it booked for an ovary scan. So when I rang about a scan, they advised me to keep that appt as mr S has hols. My last period was July 6th. Ah well I can't expect a HB but will be good to see mr S before too long assuming I've not mc before then

No idea why women like us aren't whisked in for an blood test reading and then monitored every 3 days for 2 weeks until the 7 week scan ? that's what the Americans do and if the hcg isn't doubling you have an idea and can at least try cyclogest or brace yourselves. I wonder if that's what I'd ask for in my next ( if I get one) bfp? It can only cost £50 surely for each test so even if u did 2 that would be worth the peace of mind. Am sure fmu is the issue as it is more concentrated if you don't pee for 4 hrs before - could u try that Later today?

Ah, so we are a mere day apart then! My LMP was 7 July. I guess it won't be Mr S that does my scan then. Damn!

duggs I agree. I had hcg tests during my second mc and at least it was one way of knowing. Shall we invent something like the portable blood testing thing diabetes patients have that measures hcg?

I'm sorry to be so "me me" today. I'm aware having a bfp is a very good first step.

We went to see the film "Ted" to take our mind off. It's very funny for about 1/2 hour. The story goes off piste after that, but still worth seeing if you like soft toys being crude.

Thanks for support today.

Ok panic over til the next panic we are back on 3+. Took two tests just now.

duggs I agree completely, why can we not have the standard of care (especially those who have miscarried at least once already) that the US has? Imagine the peace of mind it would give. Drives me nuts that our NHS, while good in some respects, is much more worried about £££ than it is standard of care. Not the individuals, I hasten to add, I'm sure the nurses and doctors are just as frustrated as we are!

jaffa Don't you worry about the "me me" bit - everyone understands and even those of us still 'waiting in the wings' as it were don't mind and empathise with what you're going through (and you kittens). Frankly I think it's fantastic that the both of you are PUPO, and am crossing everything everywhere for the both of you!

Quick question from me, AF has taken me a bit by surprise and arrived on CD23 today. I'm usually a 27-day cycler, but I ovulated early this cycle on CD11 so although that's still a bit early I guess a 12 day LP is okish and since I still think I had an anovulatory cycle last month, despite the Ovitrelle, perhaps my body is just getting itself straightened out. Anyway, my question. Mr S agreed to do an hysteroscopy with this AF, I think he said it should be done towards the end of AF so I'm trying to arrange this with Cheryl now although I'm very aware this is stretching even Mr S's saying it could be done at short notice since if I did hear him right and it has to be done towards the end of AF that will mean I need it done this Wed/Thu. May well be a bit TOO short notice, sigh. Anyway, I'm blathering. What I wanted to ask was, for you ladies who have had this done, could you drive afterwards? I'm a bit concerned that even if Mr S can fit me in this week (and if I get the ok from the insurance company, which I still need to do!), OH won't be able to get time off work at such short notice to come along to bring me home.

It's done under local anaesthetic, isn't it? (although that thought rather brings tears to my eyes!) How do you feel afterwards? Should I instead be investigating train options? I sort of hoped I could drive, but thought I'd better make sure!

Morning ari, great news jaffa! I felt ok afterwards but rules of a general A say you can't drive for 24 hrs so they make sure someone is there to collect you. They even made me wait until they physically saw DH . I wouldn't worry too much I believe they prefer to do the hysteroscopy at start of cycle to ensure there is no way u could be pregnant so a couple days after should be ok (but not dr so I could be mistaken)?

Oh - general anaesthetic duggs, not local? Hmmm That could cause a problem then, both for driving and for my med insurance as they said they wouldn't cover anaesthetic costs. Bugger. But thanks for the info :)

Ari, I think I was told to have it day 5-10 ideally. They like to do it before you ovulate to make sure there's no danger of disturbing a pregnancy. They can't really do it whilst you have AF as it's not really possible to get a good look at the uterus walls. I felt quite crampy afterwards. I had it done on the NHS though so it was only 2 stops away from me on the tube to get home so can't offer an opinion on driving. I think I went back home on my own though.

Jaffa, glad you are feeling more at ease and have gone back up to 3+. I also POAS today and got a proper dark line, which came up pretty quickly. So, we're both making good progress. Mine wasn't FMU as such either. I don't know if there can be such a thing once you're a week or more into pregnancy, what will all the weeing in the small hours of the night!

Ari - mine was done through the NHS a year or so back. I didn't even have a local, although I seem to remember they advised me not to drive. Not too uncomfortable at all.

Thanks ladies. Silly question time ... do you inject the gonal-f in the same place/way as the ovitrelle, or is it supposed to be done somewhere else? Bit of a panic here today as I hadn't ordered mine yet, expecting AF to be end of the week. With it arriving today, and supposed to be starting gonal-f & letrozole day 2, ie tomorrow!, I had to get my skates on with the ordering .. only to be told by the Healthcare people that my prescription had expired! Serves me right for leaving it to the last minute .. :)

Ari I usually start on day 3 so if you can get Cheryl to send another prescription to Central Homecare today they should be able to deliver by Wednesday which should be fine. Yes, inject same place as Ovitrelle.

You start on day 3 kittens? Mr S says in his letter that I'm to have the injections days 2, 4, 6 and 8 (with Letrozole the usual days 2 to 6) .. ? Central Homecare said it was ok, they'd get the clinic to fax across the updated prescription, so I'm still on track for delivery tomorrow. Thanks for the injection advice - oh I do hate injections, and here I am, willingly doing 5 inside one month! I must be mad :)

That's strange. I think my instructions were to take Gonal f on days 3 5 7 and 9! I think the tamoxifen may have been 2-6. I have a shocking memory! I remember there was one cycle where I was panicking about not getting my meds on time and Louise told me it would be fine to start a day later. If you're worried why don't you call her?

I actually found, after really dreading the injections, that I hardly felt them at all.

I'm not, it's ok - I have Mr S's letter here from the last visit, so I'll go by what he's written. Good enough for me :)

The nurse just called to say she will try to get to me by 7.30-8am tomorrow, which means I may not be late for work but it's going to be a rather gruelling day! Will get in from work at 1am tonight, have to get up at 7, quick shower & dress, hopefully have a doze whilst I'm having the drip, put on make up, go to work 'til midnight. Bloody good job the pregnancy tiredness hasn't kicked in and I'm bouncing throug my day on 40mg pred!

kittens hope it goes well today and your racing around logistics fall into place!

ari I've heard the gonal-f ones are very thin. Sounds like you've had some mad arranging to do as well! How we are supposed to plan events and holidays during this time of appointments and drug deliveries, I have no idea.

No update from me. Awake at 4am again.

Morning ladies, glad to see the bfp ladies are still going strong.

Ari hope you managed to get everything sorted, I nearly got caught put be early af this cycle!

Well just had my follie scan and I have reacted a bit too well!! About four between 12mm and 16mm and lots of small. He said I could abandon cycle or risk multiple pregnancy so naturally I taking the risk!

Oh and best of all no fluid this month, yipee!!

you GO girl !! That is good news pebbles

Thanks Duggs and excuse the spelling mistakes on iPhone. My lining was also better this month 7.5 on day 9 where as last month was 7 on say 10.

Have you taken the adoption thing any further or are you going to try naturally for a bit? I saw on pred thread you ate going away for Xmas which sounded lovely.oojs like we will be going away to Thailand with about ten other friends for Xmas. Shouldn't really in case need money for ivf but life is to short and don't want ttc to take it over completely.

pebbles Oh now that's fantastic! Funnily enough I was thinking this morning, what would I do on the slim offchance that I respond too well to the gonal-f/letrozole combination ... and just like you, I'd take the risk. It's a no-brainer, really ... risk multiple pregnancies vs not have a chance of a pregnancy at all! :) Well done your body, yay those follies! :) If you don't mind me asking, what are you on now - gonal-f too, or just letrozole? I'm always curious to know what works for people.

kittens Hope you're enjoying (?!) the intralipids ... it really is crazy how we have to juggle all these things.

Louise phoned me this morning, Mr S can squeeze me in for the hysteroscopy at 9:30am on Tues morning (that would make it day 9) .. but I then have my follie scan probably Thu (day 11), it's looking like - what will the hysteroscopy do to my lining though, if anything? Happily my gonal-f was waiting for me at work when I got in this morning (WHAT a huge box, goodness me!), so that's one problem down.

Praying this is the 'magic' that does the trick for me, pregnancy-wise. If this, the anti-bs for the infections (finishing in 2 days) and gonal-f don't do the trick between them, along with the DHEA I've been taking for 4 months now, then I'm totally out of options.

Wow pebbles, that's amazing! Really really wishing you lots of luck with this cycle!

ari, that sounds like perfect timing for your hysteroscopy. It shouldn't have any detrimental effect on your lining unless they find any scarring which they need to remove. Hopefully it will just prime you nicely for implantation

Happy (but extremely knackered), to say the intralipids were fine and finished in plenty of time for me to get to work on time without me having to make up any stories! Phew! Today's going to be a loooooong day though. The 40mg pred are helping somewhat though.

pebbles that's such a great result! Good to know your body can do this and it's cheaper than ivf, right? So now some shagging

ari you have tackled every single thing you can, or will after this last thing. I really admire your fortitude. Here's hoping your body gets the message and all the planets align for a positive result soon.

kittens glad you made work on time! And the intralipids are actually ok, aren't they?! P U P O!