12 months on and most people on my TTC thread are pregnant so I'm starting a new one! Come and join me if you've been TTC a while or are TTC after pregnancy loss... we've been through it all!

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iloveberries Age 31, DH 32, DS 2 yrs. Been TTC #2 for a year, 1 m/c, 1 ectopic, 1 tube removed. Will be starting TTC again after my next AF.

Still following the ladies on my original TTC thread but most of them are now pregnant so whilst I'm delighted for them I wanted to start a new place for those who have been TTC for a while and are still awaiting a healthy, sticky bean in the right place.

All welcome..... nothing if off limits, nothing is TMI, no 'babydust' though please

Hi everyone.

New York was partly great and partly silly but I'm very glad I went.

Needless to say the spotting wasn't implantation and after a bfn and my period starting properly yesterday I've been quite depressed. Especially as the hordes of pregnant women aren't confined to the UK, there are plenty of them in New York too...

However I'm drawing comfort from the fact that whilst this cycle was stupidly long I am pretty sure that it was caused by illness and not just what they'll be like after the mmc. I ovulated 15 days after my temps went down after my flu and my post flu cycle lasted 28 days in total.

This cycle we are both going off the booze and going back to the gym. It worked in January so why not now? It may help with the depression too.

Anyway will catch up properly with all of you after I've unpacked and put the washing on!

I can I join? We're 4 months into ttc dc #2 after a miscarriage last year.

Welcome back Disco - sorry about AF! Another cycle right!
Welcome DailyMailSpy! So sorry for your loss! Welcome to the thread in which you can rant, share as much or as little as you want!
Have you ever woken up and just wanted to do something different!
I don't want to do the same old things I wanted to something worthwhile!!!

Hello everyone,

Hope you don't mind me joining the thread - seems the one that's most relevant to me of all the active ones. I've just joined Mumsnet having realised from the occasional look-in that it's a pretty good source of sanity, support and advice when ttc....

We had a mmc at 11 weeks back in December (having got pregnant on the 2nd month of trying) and here we are 6 months later and no joy. I know 6 months isn't dire straits (I'm 33 DH 30) but as it happened so fast first time we naively thought it would be the same next time. Been doing all the obvious things - good diet, lots of exercise, no booze, and lots of you-know-what obv.

It is v frustrating as lots of you know. The monthly game of raised and dashed hopes is so hard. I've heard mention of a test called AMH - maybe that's something we should look into. Welcome any thoughts on this (or any other ideas!). Thank you xxx

HI all,
welcome back Disco sorry about the BFN and the preg women in newyork. how was the big apple?
munchin- hope gp appt goes well.
ilove- yes i am in the 2WW- went for first of a 10 week course of reflexology very relaxing but some points were quite tender- she adv my thyroid is slightly out? and found out i had back probs with out me saying ( very amazed) and congested in my sinus/neck area- but apparently will help rebalance everything but feels it will help with falling pregnant?!
count- really nice to hear your feeling a bit better at the moment.
huge welcome to daily and always- very friendly thread here i find huge comfort from it.
Anyway about to go and enjoy a sunny day- big hugs too all x

Hi Mezza, Dailymailspy and Alwayshopeful. Hopefully you'll find this thread and its predecessors as supportive as I have over the last months. And hopefully it'll be lucky for all of us!

Rachie it must have been so upsetting to hear that news. Like others have said, surprising things do happen so hopefully you will get pregnant, even if it seems unlikely now.

Berries hopefully leaving that job will remove a source of stress! I'd love to get another job but don't want to as I know as soon as I get another I'll fall pregnant and then I'll have to leave almost straight away...well, if this TTC-and-getting-it-to-stick lark keeps on taking an age then I suppose I'll have to rethink.

Muchin glad that the GP really understood how you were feeling. I am still getting upset regularly and I feel that people think I should be over it by now (not that anyone has said that but I bore myself sometimes with my feelings, feel sure others must feel the same way). Also, whether you already have children or are older than others is irrelevant, if you want another baby you are entitled to try for one! Which bit of your house/flat are you decorating? I still have to do the woodwork and fireplace of my dining room which I'm putting off! I also have to book someone to come and hang the paper (again, putting it off!)

Count yes, it's the start of another cycle. This time no booze at all and exercise. Hopefully it'll work. Did you do something worthwhile and different this weekend? I didn't! I stayed in bed til 1pm today what with the jetlag and no sleep on the overnight flight.

Kitty the Big Apple was great but I was feeling pretty hormonal. There were good bits though, it wasn't all weeping and spots :) We just did the usual tourist things and I bought an iPad as they are cheaper (saved about £50). The only problem is I touch type so I find the on screen keyboard a right pain for updating Mumsnet! I've reverted to my slow old laptop for this! I'm glad you found the reflexology useful, every little helps I am sure...

Hey! Mooleywooleywoo Where are you? Hope you are ok. What stage of your cycle are you at now?

Thanks for the welcome Discolite - this thread is fab and I already feel more positive and (even more!) hopeful than before. Amazing what realising you're not alone can do....esp when there are questions we all have that only ladies in the same boat can understand!

Glad you had fun in the Big Apple. It's our "last big holiday before having kids" destination, though we've not planned anything yet (it's one of the ways we try and see each unsuccessful month in a positive light....more time to save up for NYC!!).

Hi everyone, sorry I have been awol; so much stuff going on at the moment, my heads in a bit of a whirl!! I'm still lurking though, just not had time to write (and I should be revising now!!)

Berries great that you are feeling better about quitting your job; wish i had the same courage as you, but I am the main earner so can't be doing that just yet! Hopefully, as the other ladies have said, the reduction in stress will help with TTC.

Munchin glad that the appointment went well and that your GP was nice. Everyone has a right to have as many babies as they see fit to have. Good luck with the decorating too. It'll be finished before you know it :)

Disco sorry that the witch found you. How very dare she!! But pleased that NYC was good and that you had a fab time.

Count hope you managed to do something different :) i wake up most days thinking that but never actually bother to do anything about it!! I always tell myself, maybe next time. Hope you are doing ok though.

Kitty did not know that reflexology could help with TTC! Hope it does the trick for you. Fingers crossed :)

Hello and welcome to Always, Mezza and Daily hope this thread brings you lots of comfort and laughs and obviously that inevitable and much coveted BFP!!!

8 days to go until my appointment. Am starting to worry that he might not give me the drugs. This will make Moo very very angry indeed . CD21 and I can tell you all that the PCOS has kicked back in with a bang since my HSG. Have not even bothered DTD. Think i will just wait for the consultant appoinment and hopefully get my hands on those drugs!!

Will try to pop in later. Have a good day one and all!!

hey everyone! welcome hopeful - nice nickname BTW! Hello dailymailspy - sorry to hear about your MC. wishing you luck here!

things just plodding along here normally till yesterday when as a result of ridiculous dizziness (had to pull over when driving), crazy tiredness, and pains in my left side, i am now freaking out that i have another EP. I know - i'm probably kidding myself i can even get preggo that quickly! But it's scary when you've lost one tube to have the possibility of losing the other one.

Anyway - i need to go to docs anyway to sort out some counselling for the depression (diagnosed at end of last yr and been trying to overcome it since) so i am going to mention it just in case.

Thanks for the congrats on leaving my job! I feel great about it (so far!)

disco - sorry about the AF but glad NYC was fab! I've never been :(

mools - are you ok?

rachie - how are you dealing with things?

Anyone expecting AF/BFP this week?

I'm off to see friend and newborn baby dd this morning, she knows what happened so i figure if i cry on the baby it will be ok!!

BFPs to you all!!! I only want mine if it's in the right place :)

p.s. hellokitty glad you're enjoying reflexology! I loved it!!

Good morning ladies and thankfully the sun has returned. Hello to Daily and Always hopefully this thread will prove lucky for us all.

Disco sorry to hear the old witch returned but glad that you enjoyed your hols. You sound positive about this cycle and hopefully this will be the one. Could do with excercising myself and stop the self pity bingeing!!! Maybe today I will start.

Hellokitty glad you are enjoying your reflexology and you never know it could do the trick.

Moo not long now to your appoint and of course you will get the meds, its just as its getting closer you are fearing awful things. I know thats what happens to me glass half empty!!!

Berries hope your visit with your friend goes ok and I can appreciate how hard it will be. My colleague in work had a baby with his partner the day I got my bad news at the scan and a couple of weeks later he brought us to his house to meet the new baba. The baba was trust into my arms before I knew what to say and I had to sit there and coo and smile and couldn't let it get to me. Defo get that dizziness checked and I'm sure it won't be anything bad and also go ahead with the counselling.

Count and Rachie hope yous are doing ok. And if I have left anyone out sorry.

Well I had a marathon of painting over the weekend but pleased with the results. Got the kitchen complete and moving on to the sitting room or hall next weekend. Its been 7 years since we did any decoration so its badly needed. On the ttc front i'd say I am still in the wtf cycle as I guess the every other day bleeding was not af. We dtd for first time since mmc, was very nervous as I stupidily was afraid maybe they had done something to me in the op and that it would hurt. But thankfully it didn't and thats out of the way and can relax in future. Had some spotting again yest but I guess that can be normal from reading different stories on mn.

Better go and do some work now!!!!

Alwayshopeful I know what you mean about the saving! I spent a lot of my savings on the holiday and it hurt, I hate spending large amounts of money. Guess I'm a modern miser. I'm sure you'll love it when you get there!

Moo oh yes, forgot you had that exam on the same day as your appointment. Good luck with the revising. Also make a list of reasons why you think you should have drugs to help you. Bring it out if you feel like s/he isn't giving you good reasons for not having drugs and give it your best go to persuade them. Having said all that, I suspect you are worrying yourself unnecessarily. If you are doing all the easy things to control PCOS e.g. weight etc (which I'm sure you are) then there aren't many options left to treat it in my limited experience. Anyway, don't fret!

Berries it must be very scary but you rationally know that the pain you felt is much more likely to have been something else. I get weird twinges all the time (I'm sure you did before the ectopic and never gave it a second thought!). Hope seeing your friend and her new baby wasn't too traumatic. Also good luck for the doctors re:the depression. How do you think it is going overall? Mine was definitely made worse by period hormones, it's getting a little better now.

Muchin well done on all the decorating! And DTD and it going fine. It is scary the first time.

Nowt much happening here. I had about four hours sleep cos of bloody jetlag, work was boring and I stupidly took a freshly bathed fluffy white/apricot puppy to the woods for a very wet and muddy walk. He doesn't look quite so pretty any more!

Hi all
Munchin and moo i heard about it as a friend had it to help her now has ds and SIL had it and very much now preg so heres hoping. If they said walking round with dirty man pants on your head would help i think i would acyually try it! we are now undergoing our first tests so hoping for a miracle in te meantime, if nothing else its relaxing and an hour off housework/mummywork and work work :-)
Disco how you feeling now?
Berries- hoping the dizzy spell is nothing serious! are you looking after ones self with lots of yummy food?
Rachie and count how are you doing?
goodluck all for BFP's i am due saturday but have AF pains and neg test today as could not help myself LOL I am addicted to testing and seriously require some sort of support group for this addiction! :-) xx

Kitty i like your philosophy!! And like you said, if it darn well works then it is defintely worth doing. at the dirty man pants though. I agree, at this moment in time, i actually would do anything. As for the testing, I am probably the worse person for testing. When there are sticks in the house, they just cry out to be peed on. So I do Although i have 2 digi's that haven't even been unwrapped.

Berries I know you are trying hard not to symptom spot, but dizziness is promising. When is AF due? Hope all went well at the doctors as well.

Disco i know how you feel about taking pristine looking cream dogs for walks. Twice last week Oscar had to be sent to the shower. Getting him in was a nightmare......never thought getting him back out would be quite so painful!!

Munchin well done on all that painting. Woweee!! And understandable that you would be a little anxious DTD for the first time. But you did it. YEY!!!!

Well i feel distinctively unwell this morning. Nauseous, AF cramps, really dry mouth, tired :( went for a turtle this morning and my CM is yellow. WTF?!?! It's kind of egg white, but yellow. To be very crude, it looks like snot

Isn't it pure crap the way the symptoms for being pg and AF on its way are so fecking similar! Get your hopes up and then bam!

hellokitty we all give into the temptation to poas. Sure I'm now looking around to see where best deals to but them. I chuckled at thought of walking around with smelly mans pants on your head. Good luck with the tests and fx you don't need them.

moo do you know when you o'd this cycle. Sounds interesting!! When I got pg this time I had loads of cm your describing.

Well I finished painting utility room last night. It's only small galley type but still enough awkward bits. Buts that's me now until weekend maybe if I get another surge for it.

How's everyone else doing?

Hey all, am not with pants on head today, just chillaxing and popping by to say hi to all! xx

Evening all!! Hope we are all ok!

Munchin well done on getting the utility painted. One less job to do!!

I don't think I have ov'd yet, well not according to my chart; and as we have only dtd tonight I hope I'm about to ov rather have! Plus, as I've not dtd since the last chem then it can't be anything that exciting. I wish it was.

Further to my last post, I think I've ov'd 3 months in a row now!! Let's hope it's a case of 3rd time lucky. Although, we only managed to dtd once, but that was in the day I ovulated so fingers crossed!!

How's everyone doing? It's very quiet on here!

hi folks, i am here! Been on a course for the last few days which is ridiculous as i am leaving soon!!

Had a tough week seeing newborn DD of my friend and then other baby news from friends, Dcousin (due when i was) texted to say she's having a DD and it made me realise i should be having my 20 week scan too - but i'm not :(

My RL friends have been utterly useless, thankfully i have you guys who understand.

-AF- BFP due next week, weds or thurs I think but not counting days! Had lots of 'could-be-either' symptoms. Trying to be positive though.

gotta go now - DS causing havoc ;)

Will catch up on alk the messages soon..... we must be due a couple more BFPs this month on the thread though :) FX xx

Hi everyone. First timer, ttc for 10 months, I'm 30, dh is 31. Not a bad situation I know but feeling very frustrated by docs and wondered if anyone has had similar stuff to me?

Even though we had only been ttc for 5 months, went to the doc in Jan as was having very irregular AF; lots of spotting either side - in some months was on more than off (oh, the knickers I've ruined!). Had lots of tests which showed that I'm looking ok, not PCOD, endometriosis, etc but still very irregular. In March started some blood tests to see if I'm ovulating. Hormone levels were low, but I'm not sure that there's a problem as tests were exactly 4 weeks apart and I think my cycle might be more like 32-34 days. Doc didn't give me any advice on blood test days (even though I asked). Now being referred to OBGYN which is taking AGES and in the meantime feeling v frustrated. Gave in last weekend and bought a home ovulation kit, but all this spotting means I'm not sure when to test. Last AF was "due" (I think) last Monday but spotting started 5 days before that; was on and off until today when I seem to be getting going properly. Ovulation kit says to start 12 days after 'the first day of your period' - as if it's that easy?!

Sorry for long post, but any advice or suggestions on using the ovulation kits or ttc in general? DH is lovely and sympathetic but can't really understand when I start talking about brown blood (also not the sexiest of topics).

Ohhhhhh it's quiet on here!!!! Big wave to you all welcome newbies!
Alwayshopeful13 & Mrscool! I really hope you enjoy this thread and share all the mind games our bodies do too us , spot the symptom game
And let's POAS game!
Moo - well done on the oving!!!! Whoop!
Ilove - how's you doing has the dizzy spells gone? It's weird I hope my cousins little one all the time feed him and change him etc and tell enjoy it! I guess I'm trying to really let go, so I can free up space in my heart for the thought of me maybe or maybe not having another one, as that is not really in my control!!!!!! Avoiding getting pregnant for now as we have family hols planned for December!
Ilove I was thinking I would of had my scan pic of my baby by now! And my BB friend had her scan as her profile picture great!!!
Was going to decorate boys room but db7 keeps writing on the walls!!!!
Db7 & Db13 we are their legal guardians been with us for nearly 5 years now!!!!!

Hi all, and thank you for the warm welcome! :)
Sorry for going AWOL, had to go away for work for the past week and everything has been a bit crazy.

count I know the feeling of not being in control - not knowing whether I will ever be able to carry a baby to full term is one thing, but this emotional rollercoaster on top of everything isn't helping... Good luck with the trying once you decide to get going again.

mrscool welcome :) Irregular cycles really does complicate things, doesn't it. My cycles were all over the place after my first miscarriage. not sure which tests you took, but the ones I'm having (as soon as my body starts working again...) is lupus, thrombophilia,thyroid, follicle stim hormone, LH and prolactin all to be taken btw days 1-5 of my next cycle, and then progresterone which must be taken on day 21. I don't know much about these things but I assume it's fairly standard, it seems really weird that your doctor didn't advice on blood test days! You might have had different tests though. Best of luck with the OPKs, I haven't been using them every cycle but after ages of no success I decided to give it a go last spring - and it turned out I ovulate much later in the cycle than I thought. It feels good to take control of these things and know a bit more about what goes on in your body. The spotting makes it trickier, but as long as your cycles are about the same length, you should ov around the same time each month.

berries I hope you are feeling better?

mooley fingers crossed! :)

kitty, munchkin, disco and all you other lovely ladies, hope your are feeling ok and having a positive week!

To those of you who have suffered miscarriages and/or ectopics - I was just wondering if you have any advice on how to deal with this emotional rollercoaster? It's almost three weeks since my op, and whilst I have days in a row where I'm coping fine, the meltdowns come with no warnings. Went to see my best friend and her newborn daughter this weekend and was expecting it to be tough, in stead I just felt at peace with the tiny one sleeping on my chest all day, and I thought - it will happen for us too in time. Now - she has had several miscarriages, a tough pregnancy/birth and a rough start with the little one so maybe because I know how longed for this baby is it was different, I don't know.

Then the next day at work, four pregnancy announcements from various places, two of the "whoopsie" kind, and I had to go for a very very long loo break... Then in the afternoon a presentation by a very very cleaver lady but 7m prego. No idea what she said, think I was just staring at her belly... I hate being so out of control with my emotions, no idea what to do though. Sorry about ranting on and on here - must say it seems to help a little though. My friends and family seem to have moved on and "forgotten" about it all in a way, but for me its still so raw and sore.

Hi Mezz- the rollercoster of emotions has become a part of my day to day life which I have now learnt to accept like a old time chum! Most of my family including my hubby has moved on!!!! I had to announce the other day that I was having my 1st AF since the ectopic and that was hard! He hugged me and said sorry he had no clue!!! It felt a bit better but I guess for him being strong and not getting emotional about it is what he dies best! I don't think I could handle a emotional crying hubby!
I have taken refuge in mn and writing in my emotions diary! Which really helps as I look back in how I was in April to now is amazing! I also have no problems holding babies! I guess it's because I never got to hold my babies it different but pregnant women is still hard for me! And I guess looking at a growing belly when yours never got there is hard! And when it's a close friend or work mate it double worse!
I guess I have real understanding of both missed miscarriage and ectopic as I've been through them both! Someone said " it could of been worse, it could of been a still born or a cot death" I just looked at them stunned at how insensitive that comment was!!!! Some people should walk with a talk warning " some words may offend"

Spelling error- "does" not "dies!!!!!!!!'

Count what a terribly insensitive and awful thing to say. I'm !! Whether you lose your unborn child or born child, the pain is the same. You have lost a part of you that can never be recovered!

Even though my plight is nowhere near as bad as yours and some of the other ladies on this site, I feel very sad knowing I should be getting ready for my 12 week scan rather than going on Clomid!

You are all being amazingly strong and courageous! And this WILL happen for us all