12 months on and most people on my TTC thread are pregnant so I'm starting a new one! Come and join me if you've been TTC a while or are TTC after pregnancy loss... we've been through it all!

[iloveberries]

iloveberries Age 31, DH 32, DS 2 yrs. Been TTC #2 for a year, 1 m/c, 1 ectopic, 1 tube removed. Will be starting TTC again after my next AF.

Still following the ladies on my original TTC thread but most of them are now pregnant so whilst I'm delighted for them I wanted to start a new place for those who have been TTC for a while and are still awaiting a healthy, sticky bean in the right place.

All welcome..... nothing if off limits, nothing is TMI, no 'babydust' though please

Ok typed a whole long msg and it all got deleted, so I am feeling pretty grumpy now.

Muchin did you get anymore EWCM?

Kitty the random restrictions the NHS places on some treatments annoys me, especially when they have no basis in medicine but in social issues.

Count I would't worry too much but like Berries says you may feel happier if you use a condom until the waiting period has passed.

My chart is continuing to baffle me and annoy me. I get two high temps and get excited then on the third day I get a low temp so FF doesn't put in the cross hairs. I have had one exciting symptom though, sore nipples on thursday and from then on. That was a symptom of ovulation I had every month before the m/c so I reckon I've ovulated but for whatever reason the temperatures haven't mirrored this.

Feeling a bit down even though we have this lovely weather. It seems to have brought out all the pregnant women! Walking the dog is an emotional minefield. I would've been around twenty weeks and showing by now if the pregnancy had progressed but it doesn't help me to torture myself thinking like that. On the plus side I'm going to New York this time next week which will be very exciting!

How are you Moo?

Hmm.

I discounted the high temperatures at the beginning of my cycle that were due to flu and FF has said I ovulated and am now 8dpo! I'm feeling cynical though...I'll believe it if my temps stay up and either I get a BFP this friday or AF (obvs you know which I'd prefer )

Hope everyone enjoyed the fab weather at weekend. Back to work tomorrow

Disco hopefully your temps stay up and you get bfp but if not wow a hol in new York very jealous.com . Totally understand how you feel about bumping into all the pg ladies. It does sting every time. I'm thinking I would have had a bump now. Instead I have all this weight I gained from comfort eating after mmc. no more ewcm. Had more bleeding sat and thought it was af but disappeared today. So have no idea what's going on.

So had friends over for BBQ on sat and a few mohitos was had. So nice to chill out and forget about past few months.

Morning everyone. Hope we are all well!!

Disco yey for ov hope you had some well timed sex!! Go sticky egg!!! I know what you mean about the weather and pg ladies. They're bloody everywhere. Makes me sad, especially as I should be gearing up for my 12 week scan. Instead I'm stuck wondering what the feck is going on with my body!!

Berries hope the witch has left the building and you are gearing up to ov and getting lots of SWI in (despite the hot weather )

Munchin glad you were able to relax and enjoy yourself this weekend. We are going to get there, I promise!

Sorry I've been AWOL, works been manic and had a lovely weekend with friends so not much time to catch up. AF is STILL here a week on!! WTF but other than that not much to report!!

On phone because IT have my laptop and I can't have it back until 9am will catch up with all later

Hi everyone - disco - great news that you ov'd! I know EXACTLY what you mean about the pg ladies - it's hard isn't it.....

munchkin good news that you sunk a few mojhitos.... perfect sunshine drink!

moo - it's hard not to think of what might have been isn't it? BUT - just keep focused on the end goal - you will get your baby. You will!!

No news here - at the start of a new cycle and AF only went yest so gearing up for my first months attempt at TTC since the EP. Feeling positive, negative, excited and scared in different measures! Given that I've just handed in my notice i am bound to get pg straight away secretly hoping but who knows??

Muchin I gained some weight (about 3lbs, but will it go?! Nope!) after my mmc too. Trying to lose it now but haven't dared weigh myself for a couple of days! I love mojitos, must have one in New York! I've never been out of Europe so it's a big deal for me. We decided to go the day inbetween finding out about the lack of heartbeat and the medically managed m/c so it seems amazing it's come around so quickly! I feel guilty I'm spending so much of my savings but what the hell...

Moo yes we did have well timed sex (the sexathon was worth it) but due to today's high temperature FF has shifted ov day from Saturday 19th to last Friday. If I put in an experimental low temperature for tomorrow then it shifts it back again! Make yr mind up FF!

So now I have two potential testing dates, this friday or the thursday after (unless FF decides I haven't ovulated at all). Not sure which to go for. May test on Sunday morning before I go to NYC and if +ve I'll know to stay off the booze. If -ve I'll test next thursday in NY and hope it's +ve if only for the shallow reason that I can then tell putative future child that I found out about their existence in New York! I wouldn't call it Gramercy though :)

I don't think AF being there after a week is that weird. Mine is generally 5-7 days. Anyway, glad you had a good time with your friends!

Berries woo hoo for new cycle! And even better, this time you actually get to try! That is very exciting. Don't be scared, just get stuck in with the sex. When do you normally ovulate? Hope it's not too long to wait.

Ok, better get back to naughty puppy who is constantly attention seeking...gimme a break doggy!

Good evening ladies one day down!!!

Disco 3lbs!!!! I wish. I'm afraid to get on scales and I know it's at least 7lbs. I had only lost it as had joined slimming world in jan and stopped as as soon as I was pg. but hit the chocs crisps and bread when we got bad news at the scan. but I do understand when you have only a little bit to lose its always the hardest. Well if you don't get your +ve before you go to NY make sure to have a cosmopolitan or two!! Don't feel one bit guilty re cost holiday yous both deserve it.

Berries and Moo good to see that's yous are all geared up to ttc this month and feeling positive about it. Always say this could be the month. Sorry Moo that af lasted so long.

Well starting last Monday my post erpc bleeding seemed to be on the way out. But it's more been like one day off and one day on. I actually felt it was like af starting on sat but then disappeared on Sunday and back today. How will I know if it is af. I really wanted to wait until after first af to start ttc. Starting to get peed off now. Sorry for the moan.

Hi lovely ladies, haven't been about much over weekend as decided to go out for lovely days out over weekend! Hope we are all feeling positive as i have good vibes for this thread this coming month! Even if it is just the start of fresh treatments for us all! Ihave decided to have a course of reflexology, worked for a few friends so am being pro active and going to have some pampering! xx

hellokitty - I had reflexology and even if nothing else i LOVED it, so relaxing! I am feeling super positive (it's the only way, right??)

disco - hol sounds fab, you definitely deserve it. I normally ovulate around day 17 so the shagging will start tomorrow night i think (day 10). I am using CBFM this month just to check I am ovving. If I were you I would test as late as possible before you go then you'll know if it's a BFP and if it's not then you can put the tests etc away and have a fab time in NYC. You don't wanna be test there incase it's not what you are hoping for. Fingers crossed it'll be a BFP for you though!

Munchkin - sorry i can't help with the bleeding question? No idea!

totally agree berries! you still going? x

Muchin it was hard cos I'd put on a bit of weight during the pregnancy through feeling too sick to eat healthy food, then I'm left fat, not pregnant etc. So like you I just ate...I know 3lbs isn't much but I worked out if I could lose 10lbs i'd be happy. I just can't do it! I can put on 3lbs just eating a normal portion of sunday dinner. My sister has lost 5st (respect) in the last year...maybe it is easier to lose large amounts than small, I don't know. All I know is my BMI is 25.6 and it pisses me off! I want to be able to wear my clothes without feeling like an overstuffed sausage skin.

It does sound to me like it isn't AF yet. How long is it since the ERPC now? When my period came back I knew about it, it was massively heavy.

Kitty hope you enjoy the reflexology!

Berries the problem is I'm not entirely sure when I ovulated. If I go by the first date FF told me I test on Friday, if I go by the second then it's thursday next week! I know what you mean about not testing on holiday but tbh it's the day before I go home anyway, I've had loads of BFN and I tend to have a quick cry now and then get over it. I just don't think I'll be physically able to wait until the Saturday! I also have a feeling I'm in TTC for a long(ish) haul.

How did the TTC sex go? Well I hope! My DP said to me today "So when are we going to have sex then?" and I told him he didn't have to as I've ovulated...I think he was a bit disappointed! Obviously the shagathon has made him happy! I obliged anyway

Hi all - sorry been AWOL been out enjoying time with my ds2 in thisivrly weather!
My gosh so many pregnant women walking around its really hard to avoid them, and I feel quite sad to think I would be having my scan by now!
The 2 pregnant women at work are due in nov so when I go back to work I will have to get use to seeing their growing bellies!
So not looking forwards to that and also seen more scan pics on BB and fb! Blahhhhhhhhh
Oh how you doing disco???? Ohhhh new York I would love to go enjoy!!!!! Shagathon lol you DH clearly likes it!!
ilove so glad your feeling very positive.
Moo- AF a no show still?
No AF here either my DH asked about it last night and I'm just trying not to think about it!!!!!
Have a jubilee cake to bake and decorate for dc school!
Better get to it!!!! And start by getting the bits needed!!!!!

hi everyone - no i am not going to reflexology anymore but mainly cause my reflexologist moved house so i haven't got round to finding a new one - i should really though! Things are ok here... day 10 today so think I'll ov in one week so going to get shagging tonight!! REALLY trying to take a more relaxed approach to it this time around though.... if only for my own sanity!

count great that you're spending lots of time with DS. Do your colleagues know why you're off?

disco - nice work on all the SWI!! Try to be positive mate, i know it's hard though, really i do!!!

Count I'm glad you've been having a lovely time in the hot weather, hope your son(s) enjoyed it. It must be hard thinking about going back to work with your pregnant colleagues but I'm sure you'll find the inner strength to deal with it. Yes, you'll be jealous and sad but I'm sure the shock of seeing them will wear off after a week or two. Did the cake turn out ok?

Berries hope you enjoy some nice relaxed shagging!

Nothing much to report here. I've been pretty tired when I've got home from work the last couple of days and have had an afternoon nap. Lassitude is getting the better of me and asides from doing some ironing I haven't done anything useful at all. Oops.

Moo has AF left the building yet?! Hope so!

Hi ladies, once again apologies for my absence work is crazy busy and we managed to lock ourselves out the house tonight so just relaxing after making dinner AF is still here, I'm getting a bit worried now; 9 days in total. WTF!?! Not sure what to do!!

Disco how is your chart looking? Any symptoms? New York sounds like a fab holiday, have never been even though we have friends out there. Must. Make. More. Effort!!!

Berries how are things with you? Any sign of ov?? Well done on resigning. Wish I had the balls to do that, but I earn more money than DH so am stuck with it for now!!

munchin and count how are you both?

Sorry not had time to read through all the posts as in phone and it's muchos difficult.

Oh Moo, oh no! I dread doing something like that. How did you get back in? AF for 9 days...that is a very long time. Your appointment is in June isn't it? Deffo something to add to the list-of-things-to-ask-the-consultant methinks.

Chart looks like this (cue lots of testing to see if I got the link to work, I always forget how to do it) www.fertilityfriend.com/home/discolite aha, only took two goes this time...I think I may have ovved on the wednesday though as I had sore nips on thursday. But tbh this cycle's chart is all over the place, what with flu and late ovulation, who knows...

Getting excited about New York now! Until now I've just focused on the 'oh no packing' side of things but now I've looked at our hotel a bit more (in Gramercy) and read the guide book a bit more I'm getting into the swing of things. DP had a friend who lived in NYC until recently, she's now in Nairobi which is less convenient!

We've booked into a brilliant/poncy cocktail bar which hilariously doesn't serve vodka (I don't like the stuff myself but appreciate it's usefullness in cocktails) and also apparently refuses to serve cocktails if you ask for them by name. Instead you have to say the ingredients you like...maybe I'll say vodka just to piss them off. Anyway, that will no doubt be an opportunity to laugh at hipsters which is ok by me.

Is your AF full flow or spotting?

Disco we had to go around to DH's sisters house and borrow a long pole with a hook on the end, then we went back to ours and while DH held open the letter box, I slid the pole through the letter box and managed to hook the keys, slowly turn the pole the other way around so the keys would not slide off and gently slide the pole back through. Needless to say it worked. But got very wet in the process!

Chart looks good :) and very excited about your New York trip for you. That cocktail bar that doesn't serve vodka and you can't ask for actual cocktails sounds like it will be amazing. Obviously though, you will be pg by then and will have to have non-alcholic ones

My AF is weird, a mixture of light flow and spotting. I am now worried I am in the early stages of menopause!!! Aaargh

Morning everyone. Hope we are keeping dry!!

Hiya ladies, woke up to lots of rain this morning!!! Wheres the sun gone?

Count thats really tough having to face 2 pg ladies back at work and I can appreciate how hard that will be. But hopefully you will be pg very soon and you will be happy to join in. Glad you are getting some q time with your ds. How did the cake go?

Berries hope your feeling relaxed and getting lots of dtd. Do you try following the SMEP plan? (sorry if thats a stupid question)

Disco I had a look at the chart. You got a dip on day 25 and then again on day 29, I think defo O was one of those days, could it be you O'd on day 25 and second dip was implantation. Sorry I'm not very good at charts as I only did it for a couple of months but I defo got an implantation dip when I got pg. Interesting Cocktail bar with no vodka (thought it was main ingredient in alot of them) So you won't be having a Cosmo then. I'm a bacardi fan so go for the mohito!!

Moo sorry to hear you are having such a long AF, its really annoying as you don't know what your body is up to and its delaying you getting to the ttc stage. But i defo don't think you are in menopause LOL!!! That is something old birds like me have to worry about. Good thinking on getting back into your house!!

So all is just going on the same with me. I agree Disco I don't think it was my period at the start of the slow down of the bleeding. But yest and today I have a very af like bleed and I have the familiar dull ache and boobs are sore so maybe it is starting now. I wonder has anyone had just a light af for the first one after a mc or would they usually tend to be heavy. Its exactly 5 weeks since my erpc. (after my ds was born my af didn't come back for 4 mths) I am due to go to my gp at 6 weeks for a checkup and I will be having a long chat, so many questions!!!! Hopefully she doesn't suggest that we forget about ttc and having a baby. Thats my biggest fear.

Moo that really is an amazing way to get your keys back! Still, at least you got back in eventually. I'm always checking I've got my keys now, especially when DP is away.

I honestly don't think you've got early onset menopause. I reckon you've just got a bloody (sorry) annoying period. Remember I used to get spotting for 5 days before my period, then bleed for 5 days? I got pregnant in the end though.

I'm entering symptom spotting madness now. I have spots, was pretty tired yday and the day before, slight cramp in my wombage area now etc etc and ahem, my toilet habits have changed (they did before I got pregnant too). My nipples have stopped hurting, my boobs aren't hurting at all (weird) and I've had no spotting yet and I'm 6dpo. FF have chosen to give me a free trial to fuel the obsessiveness, thanks for that!

Muchin thanks for your input! It's just all too confusing. My charts used to be cut and dried but like you said there are three possible points where I could have ovulated. Who knows. I think I'll go with the latest one for testing purposes to avoid multiple disappointments :)

As for your latest candidate for AF, I think yes it sounds likely when you combine it with the cramps and the boobs. I researched a bit around first periods after m/c and it seems that anything goes. Some people are exactly the same, other people get weird symptoms or absence of usual symptoms (pre-m/c for example I would have really sore boobs at this point in the luteal phase). I had a really heavy AF but other people get a really light one.

Ok, I seem to have written an essay again today. Oops!

Hiya ladies,
Good to hear everyone is feeling a bit more upbeat. Well done us!

disco the symptoms sound pretty promising don't they! I have had symptoms for the last 3 months when i haven't even been trying so am determined not to ss when i get to the 2ww!! Hope you have an amazing time in New York - are you testing before you go theen? I have everything crossed (legs excluded!) for a well deserved BFP.

moo that is a long AF but course it's not the menopause! It's your appt soon so get those drugs going! It'll be a BFP in no time lovely.

munchkin why do you think they will tell you not to try for a baby? Don't give up hope mate!

count i am in the same boat with the preggo folk at work. It is hard. Just focus on the fact they are having their baby and soon you will have yours - plus when you don't know people that well you don't know what they went through to get their baby. When are you due back?

Well we are on day 12 here - i usually ov on day 17 i think so we had SWI last night, more for the S than the I BUT it was the first time since we were TTC before the EP that we have had sex close to the fertile time and when we were, ahem, in the moment i was overcome by this "oh my god what if i get another baby stuck in the other tube??" It was dark so DH wouldn't have seen the fear in my face. i managed to carry on regardless but it shows me that despite all my outward positivity i am still shit scared about what might be. Still, i am definitely going to carry on TTC as i will not be beaten by fear.

What's everyone up to this weekend?

Anyone testing/waiting for AF??

hi all, well the household is recovering from an awful sickness bug at the same time as ovulation date?! arrrrrghhh may have missed the boat ! but tonight going to do something about it as may not be too late as sticks tell me so?! faint line still there. Jubilee celebrations this weekend and very much looking forward to the 4 day rest! DD is busy being a grot today but feel just her way of making sure i realise she is still not 100% yet ( bless her!!)
Good luck to all ovulating at resent and near future and also FX and LX for all those trying to void the big bad AF xxxx

TGIF ladies!!! Woo hoo love Friday nights.

Disco I think it may well be af although light but defo way different to the horrible brown bleeding the last few weeks. Sorry Tmi!! And sorry for going on about it. Anyhow have a fab time on your hols!!! Hope when you do test it's a big bfp.

Ah Berries my heart goes out to you. It's a catch 22, afraid if you try and afraid if you dont. You gotta be positive and think that EP won't happen again and all will be well.

hellokitty hope yous are over the bug. Nothing worse and goes through the whole house. Hope you've caught O on time.

I have it in my head that I left it too late to ttc as I am 40, that my eggs are too old and i am going into menopause and that's why I mmc because of poor quality.

Anyhow hope everyone enjoys the long weekend.

Munchkin - Don't think that!!! There are plenty of women who have babies at or after 40! Between us we're a right bunch aren't we, some 1 tubed ladies, some with PCOS, some feeling older than they'd like... it's never easy. But we WILL get there, and we WILL take babies home with us in 2013 and they will be the most adored babies EVER! Just keep positive.

Day 13 here so i imagine the EWCM will start showing up soon in time for day 17 Ov hopefully. I bought some pre-seed so may use that this month - never tried it though....

How is everyone else? We've already had one BFP on this thread and this month it's time for a couple more :)

Hi all - the cake turned out fab kids well chuffed I went all out went hobbycraft and went ermmmm crazy!!!! That shop is really good!
Moo - I agree with others comment dont worry! Your long AF will go soon and you can get on with SWI!
Munchin- ilove is correct I know plenty of women who gone on to having babies after 40, some actually gave up hope and got a huge shock!
Hellokitty - I'm glad the bug has gone, so you can get in some SWI!!!

I'm so enjoying time with DS 2 this is really showing me how big and grown he is getting!

I understand what some are saying I'm not jealous at all about my pregnant work mates! 1 has been trying for ages and the other had MMC just after me last year! She's gutted for me when she saw me in hospital and I told her what happened! Some of my closer mates know about what happened, I can only imagine all must know as you asked don't you when someone's been off for a bit of time! It's been a month since the ep and no sign still for AF ???? Oh well I'm not worried it will come when it comes!

Hello everyone. Hope we are all enjoying the start of the nice long weekend, despite the awful weather!!

Count glad the cake was a success and that you are enjoying time with your DS. Sorry that AF is still yet to make an appearance. It is so frustrating. Especially when you are eager to try and move forward. Glad you are being strong though. As Berries said in 2013 we will all be holding our much deserved and anticipated babies and this will all be a distant memory.

Disco are you due to test yet? Hope you have a cracking time in New York and come back to us with some good news!

Berries glad you got some SWI in near the fertile window but sorry that you are feeling scared. It's completely understandable though, you have been through so much, but we are going to get there and this time it will stick and everything will be fine and you will have a lovely happy and healthy 9 months :) we all will :)

Munch there are plenty of ladies at 40 and over that are able to have completely normal healthy pregnancies, do not worry. We are going to get there. I have absolute complete faith that this time in a few months we will all be on a nice ante-natal thread wondering what the fuss was all about (and not caring what the fuss was about either!)

hellokitty sorry that you and your family have not been very well. Sounds dreadful. Hope you are all feeling better now though and can enjoy some time off.

As for me............well AF has finally left the building YEY!!! Consultant appointment in 17 days although work have managed to arrange my internal assessment for the same day, and despite my arguments, my supervisor will not let me drop out. I'm not trying to drop out because of the appointment, more the fact that i don't feel 100% confident or ready to sit, but he seems to have complete faith that I wil get through, so i can't really argue with that. I now have 3 weeks in which to cram as much revision in as possible. Happy long weekend to me

I am off next week as well, and now have to revise through it all instead of relaxing and taking it easy. Sigh.......it will be worth it in the end, i hope.

Right best get on.