12 months on and most people on my TTC thread are pregnant so I'm starting a new one! Come and join me if you've been TTC a while or are TTC after pregnancy loss... we've been through it all!

[iloveberries]

iloveberries Age 31, DH 32, DS 2 yrs. Been TTC #2 for a year, 1 m/c, 1 ectopic, 1 tube removed. Will be starting TTC again after my next AF.

Still following the ladies on my original TTC thread but most of them are now pregnant so whilst I'm delighted for them I wanted to start a new place for those who have been TTC for a while and are still awaiting a healthy, sticky bean in the right place.

All welcome..... nothing if off limits, nothing is TMI, no 'babydust' though please

Congratulations Irishmammy! What lovely news :)

Mezza it could well have been too early to test. The only symptom I had before my positive last week was an absence of spotting (I usually spot for 2-4 days before AF) so who knows? Also remember that every pregnancy is different, what is normal for one is different for another. For instance by this time last time I was pregnant my boobs were agony but they're not too bad at the moment. Hopefully things will go your way on Wednesday (fingers crossed)

Count glad to hear about the good test results. Just keep coming back here to keep yourself sane whilst waiting for the scan, you must be going mad with waiting...xxx

Moo the ale sounds nice! And just think, if you did conceive this weekend you could follow the Beckham's line and call the baby...Man. Hmm, maybe not! The signs sound great btw, hope you get those three high temperatures.

Muchin when are you going to test next? That funny taste in your mouth sounds interesting...

Berries I definitely think you deserved more than a group text. A group text is for acquaintances, not close friends, especially given that she knows your recent experiences. Still, people are funny creatures. It maybe that she felt it would be better not to single you out from everyone else, or probably that she just felt too awkward to tell you properly. Many people don't seem to be able to cope with another person's bad experiences. I've certainly learnt who my friends are after the m/c in March.

Well, like everyone else I am pissed off about the weather and a little fed up of listening to extremely loud music and positive declarations over the tannoy courtesy of the Race for Life going on in the park down the road. A fantastic cause but crikey it's loud.

I'm also having fun trying to figure out if my sister's new rescue cat is pregnant (long distance mind, she lives 200 miles away) by looking at photos of cat nipples (ahem). I know we really should hope she isn't as there are too many kittens in the world but...kittens...ahhh.

I went to a colleague's bbq yesterday and my dog and his chased each other around the garden all afternoon which was very sweet. He was totally knackered when he got home!

Hope you all have a lovely Sunday! I suspect we'll end up in a National Trust property as it's too wet to do anything else...grr.

Berries more insensitive friends. What the actual fuck!!! I mean, knowing what you have and are going through. No need at all!! Some people can't see past the ends of their own noses. It really sucks!!

Disco at you trying to determine whether the cat is pg. love it!!

Irish bloody huge congrats love. Absolutely fab news!!!

Mezza when do you plan on testing again?

Well I have a bit of an Eeeeeeek moment!! As you may (or may not know) one symptom of my PCOS is that I always have high levels of LH and therefore testing with OPKs is useless as they will always show positive! Well, I have been testing religiously since a few days after taking my last Clomid pill. They have been getting progressively darker and when I got home today, after holding my pee for a couple of hours I peed and got a very very clear positive. Informed DH that we will be engaging in bonking tonight as it looks like the Clomid is actually bloody working!! I am so excited. Thinking of dtd tonight seeing what temps are like in the morning and of low might have to dtd again tomorrow just in case!!

Is it wrong that I am this excited?!? Just need to shag as much as poss I think. Does anyone know how soon after a positive does the egg get laid?

On phone and trying my best to catch up but is very hard. Sorry if I have forgotten anyone!

moo that is good news and with the rate of BFPs on this thread we should have both of us, munchkin and mezza all knocked up within a few weeks please!!

I think it's roughly 24 - 36 hours after the positive so if i were you I would dtd today and tomorrow. Go girl!!!!

I know - I always thought I had great friends but i was literally agog when the "my wonderful news" text came through. Could not believe it.... I am now officially ignoring her. I don't want her to think it's because she is pregnant and I am jealous. Though having said that I am meeting our mutual pregnant friend next week (She sent me a really thoughtful text and the way the news is delivered makes such a difference) so it's clearly not about her pregnancy but about the fact I don't need such an insensitive person in my life.

God - sometimes you really find out who your friends are!!

Moo they don't sell HPT for cats! Nipples are the way to go apparently. However she has been a busy little cat and had had at least four litters already by the time my aunt rescued her so the nipples have already been, ahem, well used.

A genuinely positive OPK? That's fantastic! Just don't break DP in your excitement :) I think being excited is perfectly natural, going from epic cycles when you had not a clue when ov would occur to a stick telling you it is imminent must be very pleasing.

Berries ignore away! Do you think she'd even notice? Some people are properly thick skinned. Have you had any more symptoms? When is AF/BFP due? I so hope it is your time this time.

Muchin when do you test again? Mezza I know for you test day is Wednesday...and Moo probably in about 14 days given the +ve OPK!

Anyway, you all do need to get BFPs soon please if only for the horribly selfish reason that the due in March thread has 713 messages on it already which is just way to many for me to catch up on We need our own graduate thread for the forthcoming batch of BFPs methinks!

Right, off to make Butter Chicken for me and DP (tremendously calorific but hey ho) and then perhaps the muppets movie! How exciting. I have to say I've had a lovely weekend, I hope you all have too. It's hard to believe that 5 weeks ago I was so depressed I was considering going back on antidepressants, my mood just lifted as soon as AF had gone and I haven't looked back since. Just need a bit of sunshine and a whole wave of BFPs to make everything hunkydory!

Hi everyone, thanks for your good wishes,your support means a lot!

berries, with friends like that who needs enemies! Some people seem to assume after a few months(or even weeks) you should be over a miscarriage and they can just carry on as normal.They don't realize the initial feelings of loss and grief don't actually go away, you just get better at coping and keeping them under the surface. She sounds very insensitive.

disco, gestation in a cat is 9 weeks and a vet can scan fairly accurately to detect pregnancy from 4 weeks gestation so if your aunt had any idea when she(the cat) may have dtd she could book an ultrasound!

moo,(love the name btw) have fun tonight (and tomorrow!)

irish happy for you...let us lnow how it is going....fingers crossed for you!!!

OOOHHHHHHHH Congrats Irish - i remember you from other thread i was on telling your story of what you have been through!!! This is one of the best threads ever!
now if everyone else can now become pregnant also that would be great!
ilove- don't worry bout your incentive friends and there odd way of sharing there news! lets just hope they will get hit with some common sense and see how your feeling about it all!
Disco - glad you don't have any complaints! and you don't seem to be worried at all thats good! agreed about our own thread have not even looked on the march thread and I'm not going to!!!!!! ( stamps my feet- i want you guys there)
I'm feeling ok - no pains or anything for me to worry about my boobs hurt and the MS seems to of ermm hit me! but no complaints i just wished i could fast forwards! i can't stand waiting!!!!!!

irish congrats! really hope it goes well for you this time.
berries you are not being precious at all. It really is shocking how insensitive some people are. We had some friends visiting in April with their ds, she knows we have been ttc for 2yrs, she also knew about my two mc's up until then, still manages to come visit, announce their second pregnancy and say they had an mc two months before, but that was "ok" as "it was a bit too soon anyway". So basically rubbing in my face how easiy they concieve as well as undermining the pain of my mc's all at once. Needless to say I found it a very long weekend, and I have avoided seeing them since. I don't really want to loose friends over ttc, if all goes well for us eventually I'm sure I'll be fine, but I am finding some people very hard to be around at this time, and I'm choosing to avoid them for my own mental health.
munchkin yay - a fellow symptom spotter! :) How long has this cycle been for you now? Sorry about the BFN, hope it turns + soon.
disco any news on the cat?
moo get on with the bonking and bring that BFP on!!!
count MS is good sign! Bring it on :)

Hope you are all having a lovely Sunday evening!

I'm doing my head in with my symptom spotting madness. CD27, usually AF around CD26-27, so I must admit I'm getting hopeful. Keep running to the loo and obsessively examining the loo roll though...
As I don't know when I ov'd I am worried it just a bit of a long cycle.

Went out for dinner last night with friends and a couple of friends of theirs who just discovered they were accidentally pregnant. Found that pretty hard to deal with, and realised when I got home that the whole evening went by and I forgot to say congrats... So embarrasing, feel so self absorbed.

God mezza that is awful. Poor you. I have to say people are frigging dim aren't they. This particular 'friend' is one of those types who makes out she's "there for everyone" but just isn't.

BUT - your situation sounds promising with no show from AF so far. Are you just waiting for her or do you have another testing day in mind?

Well I had a dream last night that i got a BFP, BUT then i woke up drenched in sweat (nice) which is what I always get a couple of days before AF - so my guess is that she is going to rear her ugly head on wednesday. Course I can't help but hope, but the sweats is my most reliable AF symptom.

Girls night out planned for friday with 5 friends but 2 of them are the ones who've announced recently so i don't know if i can face it. I'd be ok with the one who told me sensitively but it's the other one, i just know i cannot face her without saying something or making a bitchy comment. I mean, really - who sends a text about their "wonderful news" to someone who's lost 2 babies and a tube in the last year???????

Sorry - this has had a major impact on me.

munchkin when is your AF due?

God - this TTC lark is hard isn't it.

Hope count, irish, and disco are all feeling well :) Send us some preggo vibes would you?!!! xxx

berries I had told myself to wait to retest till Wednesday as I have had two 30 day cycles in the past yr, but as I have no willpower poas'ed again this morning - BFN of course. Hubba noticed me staying in the loo for a while and told me off for being silly - I have never gotten a + before/on day of AF anyway, always has taken an extra couple of days.

Good sign is still no AF though, but I'm starting to become convinced it's just one of those freak cycles.

Nice dream , I hope it comes true, if not this cycle then surely next!

Re the girls night out, if you feel like it's just going to get you down, then I would just make up an excuse... I have pulled out of some things lately, this is hard enough as it is, you need to put yourself first. On the other hand if you think you would have fun and you just worry about making a bitchy comment, surely go. She sounds like she needs one...

Thanks Irish, my sister is a bit skint at the moment so she is trying old fashioned methods of cat pregnancy detection at the moment! Has your good news sunk in yet?

Count - morning sickness - horrible but normal! Feeling a bit sick myself now. I'm feeling less calm about everything today and a bit more scared. I suppose that is also horrible but normal, or at least understandable. The waiting is driving me mad too! I swear time has slowed down lately...

Mezza, if someone had said that in my hearing I would have felt murderously angry...how could she take a m/c so matter of factly? Also don't feel bad over forgetting to congratulate the friend of a friend, I bet they didn't even notice. As for poas, it's so hard not to!

Hi Berries, vibes sent your way! I would probably try to go out on the night out on the grounds that there are four people at least who you want to see, but I can see that pregnancy could well be a major topic of conversation and you don't really want to be hiding in the loo crying (been there, done that). Perhaps you could pre-empt insensitive friend by saying "congratulations, I really hope it is my turn next after what I've been through this year"...no harm in reminding her as she clearly has the memory of a goldfish! Lovely dream but try not to read too much into the sweats. I've been overheating lately so it isn't just a symptom of AF!

Moo, did you get a temp spike this morning? Or did all the ale make it unreliable?

Mezza what an absolutely truly awful thing to say; and especially as she actually knowns the hard time you are going through. I am becoming more and more at the insensitivity of friends and I am soooooo glad that only my closest best friend from school knows we are trying, because I would probably have had a full on melt down by now to people who can say such things! And like others have said, don't worry about forgetting to congratulate your other friends, I am sure that they will not have minded and know that you are happy for them.

Is AF still a no show? I hope that this is it for you, I really do; god knows you deserve it!!

Count sorry that the ms has kicked in, but got to be a good sign that everything is going ok. When do you have your appointment?

Berries if you are not feeling up to the night out then maybe an excuse to avoid it is best; however, I agree with Disco i think you should let them all be reminded of the terrible time you are going through and see what they say to that. Might make them think twice about what they say in the future. And again with the sweats and other AF type twinges - remember that with pregnancy, anything goes and that includes AF symptoms rearing their ugly head even when pg. Some people have full on bleeds when pg and mistake that for AF, so absolutely anything is possible. Have everything crossed that it's some random sweats and not those of AF

Disco understandable that you will be anxious, but as I said to Count, ms is a good sign :)

Well temp didn't rise this morning, on the contrary it's quite low; have dtd again tonight and peed on another ov stick and it's still showing positive. Boobs are not sore yet either which is always a sure sign that the egg has been laid. How long do ov sticks stay positive for? I am worried that either the Clomid didn't work or that it is having an adverse affect on my LH, which is not what i need considering that it is normally high any way!!

Right I am off to google clomid effects on OPKs!!!

Hi all another new week.

Berries don't feel under pressure to go out if it will be too upsetting. On the other hand if you think you will enjoy the night go out and feck the insensitive ladies!!! Hope your dream of bfp is a good omen. Liking your positivity wishing the rest of us Bfps's.

Count glad the ms has kicked in ( in the best possible way) sounds like all is going to plan.

Disco you sound like you had a nice relaxing weekend and glad all is going well.

Woo hoo Moo on ov'ing and happy dtd!!

Glad all is going well for you too Irish.

Mezza I don't blame you for poas as I do it too. Sorry it was a bfn but as long as AF is a no show you are still in with a shout.

Well ladies it will be exactly 12 weeks since my erpc tomorrow and 5 weeks since I finally stopped bleeding after the op. when is AF due??? Well that's anyone's guess. I'm so sorry for moaning on about it as I feel that is all I do but here is the only place I can go on about it. You know I would be just as happy to see AF as it would mean some sort of normality was returning. I was having dh family over yest for bbq and I am guilty as I poas so that I could drink without worrying. Of course it was a bfn but I have decided I might allow myself to poas once a week just on the off chance I got bfp before AF ever shows up.

Sorry moo I posted before I saw your message. Hope you ov soon!!

disco after what you have been through it it just natural to feel scared and worried. And I'm with you on time slowing down! omg... Every day is feels like a week in my world at this point! Take care of yourself, and take one day at a time. Hoping the bean sticks and is happy and healthy!
moo I have almoststopped being surprised at the things people manage to say. It really is unbelieavable some times. I'm hoping all is well with the opk/clomid confusion. fx this is your month!
munchkin I can't even imagine how frustrating that must be for you. Can totally relate to the relief of AF showing up as it means back to normal, but that is one LONG wait for you. Rant away about your frustrations - it's what this place is for, no? And totally agree with the weekly poas for reassurance, might as well for peace of mind!

Sooo... AF still hasn't reared her ugly head. Hopeful, but also worried, will be so low if she does.
Thanks for all your fx's ladies, we'll see how this goes, it ain't over till it's over...

Tuesday morning, still no AF. Test BFN. Baffled.

Firstly, welcome Paol and sorry for the BFN! When was AF due? Might just be too early to get a clear result yet. If AF is late though, maybe a trip to the docs for a blood test?! I know some women who don't get positives on HPTs so need it confirming with a blood test.

Alternatively, is it possible that you ov'd later than you thought? That could be delaying AF. Hope not though

Oh Munchin how frustrating for you. With my previous epically long cycles, I know how much of a relief it is sometimes to see AF (although I think we would all much prefer a BFP now). Fx'd that you get some closure on this, and soon!

Mezza when are you planning to test? As you say, in till that witch swoops in with her red cloak of doom it is definitely not over!!!

Well...........temp went up today. Not getting too excited, but it was a massive leap (36.19 yesterday to 36.42 this morning). Fx'd I get a further two to confirm and then it's back into that big bad 2 week wait. Aaargh. I have promised myself to keep occupied and not test until at least 13 dpo
who am i kidding we will see how it goes

Any other testers coming up? Berries is AF due tomorrow? Are you going to test after she is late??

Disco and Count how are you feeling today?

Sorry about the BFN Paolo

Moo - after having read too much on here about sensitive sticks I got Superdrug yest. Still BFN and cramping like mad, so getting pretty convinced just a weird cycle :(

Got to lay a plan for less obsessiveness next cycle!

Temp sounds good, fx tww next up! :)

Sorry. Posted on wrong thread. Am an idiot.

No worries Paol everyone is welcome here. I hope you get some good news soon :)

Mezza the fact that AF is not here yet can only be a good thing. Right?! Have you tried, ahem, erm, doing an internal investigation to see if your CM is tinged with any blood etc? If you don't normaly check cervix position then you will read this and think a) I am disgusting and b) i have gone mad

Just about to go POAOS - hoping beyond hope that it will be negative :)

Well, FFS!!! It still looks positive. WTF!?!?!?! Does this mean I am still yet to ov? 3 days of postives cannot be right.

That is mysterious moo! are you sure you are not pregnant?

I know that it IS good that AF isn't here yet just not feeling so optimistic all of a sudden. No trace of blood, but have had unusual amounts of CM lately.
Complete novice - but what should cervix be like if AF is approaching?

Definitely can't be preggers - have been temping religiously and have not had the temp rise i normally see; wondering if the urine i am using is too concentrated? Or i am ovulating twice I have been trying to read about how much you are supposed to drink/not drink before taking a test and I am getting very mixed reviews. I had not drank at all today (had an early meeting) and peed when i got in and it was very dark orange. Maybe that is what's making it positive

On to your question Mezza your cervix when AF is due is meant to be low, firm and open. The increase of CM does not sound like AF is about to make an appearance though, usually before AF you get dry/stick CM. Is your CM creamy at all? It could well be a very good sign, a lot of pg women get increased amounts of creamy CM because of the mucus plug that forms over the cervix to protect the bean :) Remind me when AF was due again?! Could you have ovulated later? Just trying to work out why AF is a no show but you are still on BFNs (maybe you are one of those women that either don't produce enough hCG in their urine or get a very very late BFP!)

That is so confusing moo, could the clomid be messing things up? Could it make you ovulate twice in the same cycle? Hope you figure it out, this is so frustrating!

Hm, well cervix definitely not low, however I haven't checked that many times, so a bit hard to say b/c of lack of comparison. CM creamy, even looked like EWCM a few days ago and I got all confused wondering if I was about to ovulate again.
Could definitely have ovulated later than normal this cycle, used OPKs but never detected surge. Had day 21 progresterone blood test though, came out normal which means I must have ovulated some time before then.
Cycles have been a bit erratic since I got pregnant the first time, so far the last year btw 24 and 30, avg 26.
I think I also get late BFPs, especially the last one which was the ectopic - tested for days and got BFNs, then got what I thought was a period so stopped testing, and turned out to be preg to weeks later anyway, just in the wrong place.
This is so confusing, messing my head up.

Hi all - sorry for all the confusion late AF's, BFN and strange oving!!!
Hang in there I have strong feeling that we will be getting someone BFP soon!
Ohhhhh Moowoo- that was me in my " I can't be pregnant" mood!
Ohhh so excited!
Also had my scan and with my dates all is well 1 baby in the right place!
I didn't breath until she said and that's what we wanted to see!
No HB as too early but all looking good! So happy not telling anyone in RL yet just want to keep quiet for a little bit longer!