12 months on and most people on my TTC thread are pregnant so I'm starting a new one! Come and join me if you've been TTC a while or are TTC after pregnancy loss... we've been through it all!

[iloveberries]

iloveberries Age 31, DH 32, DS 2 yrs. Been TTC #2 for a year, 1 m/c, 1 ectopic, 1 tube removed. Will be starting TTC again after my next AF.

Still following the ladies on my original TTC thread but most of them are now pregnant so whilst I'm delighted for them I wanted to start a new place for those who have been TTC for a while and are still awaiting a healthy, sticky bean in the right place.

All welcome..... nothing if off limits, nothing is TMI, no 'babydust' though please

Moowoo- I think you should revise if you want and take a break and do something relaxing if u want!!!!
Ilove - I'm sorry AF got you it's hard when you heart wants something to happen its just how you feel!!!
Welcome Smile- I hope you enjoy this journey with us as your in good company!!!!
Disco - I can't actually I can believe the things people say, just bloody nosey and rude!!!!!
Anyone else I may have forgotten Hi!!!!!
I have not been doing much but today decided to plant some lovely plants in the garden very proud and it looks great!!!!
The weather has been up and down but no rain!!!! Whoop!

count hope you are enjoying the result of yesterdays hard work in the garden :)

Ah, my mood is even worse today.... :(
MIL just called, haven't spoken to her since the op, didn't really want to speak to anyone the week after, and then they went on hols, so this morning she phoned saying how sorry she was it went wrong again etc - and then she goes, I just have to tell you what just happened to my colleagues daughter blah blah blah. So apparently this girl (25 and single) gave birth last week without even knowing she was pregnant (I keep hearing these stories, but seriously - how unaware of you body can you be?!). Almost wanted to scream into the phone - in which way exactly do you think this story helps?!? People all over "accidentally" fall pregnant all the time, and I'm still VERY MUCH not pregnant!
People really just don't get this.

Ah rant over, sorry ladies!

Hope you are all having a more positive week, sun is shining again where I am, think having lunch outside today should help! :)

oh criky - i can't believe MIL told you that.....

i think you have inspired me to start a thread about 'insensitive things people say when you've lost a baby'.......

still gutted about AF arriving but hey - gotta get on haven't i??

starting counselling in July so hoping that will help me deal with some of this shit!

I know... actually, she isn't the first one in the last few weeks who have told me stories of accidental/sudden pregnancies. The only logic I can think of is they probably think - see, it will happen to you too before you know it! type thing, but when you are entering the third year of ttc and have suffered three losses, it just rubs it in really...

Can totally sympathize with feeling gutted about AF :( Since my first loss every single period has felt like a slap in the face. But yes - you have to get on. Take care of yourself, try to do something nice, and we'll all keep our fingers x'd that next month is the one that sticks!

What is with insensitive people at the moment???!?!?! mezza really sorry you had to deal with that, and bite your lip no doubt as well!!

I think people live in cloud cuckoo land most of the time and think you just look at a man and instantly fall preggers!! Well it's sooooo much harder than that!!!!

Appointment went well, have been given a script for 6 months of Clomid and need to go in for 21 day bloods when I start a new cycle. Feeling a bit more positive. Just wish it was 5 and the dreaded assessment is over too.

One down......one to go.......

Mezza omg!!!! Mil/mums!!!! People say the most awful things, weird sense of how this would comfort you. I found best comment that was said to me was I'm so sorry you must feel so low. They left it at that and it did sum it up. So least said is better. How you kept your cool with mil fair play to you.

Berries excellent idea for a new thread. Sorry your feeling so low today. It's hard to know what to say to give your enthusiasm back. But fx for next month.

moo great you got your drugs after worrying you wouldn't. Hope exam went ok.

Count well done on the gardening.

Feeling a bit up and down. My bf sister mc two weeks before me and she is now 7 wks pg. I'm so happy for her but at same time feel left behind and maybe I won't get another chance. Ongoing tension with mother not helping either.

Hi all as I said before people's mouths should come with a health warning because words do offend!!!
I def believe it worse from a loved one, family member or good friends!
Wow your Mezza - that's so cold and hurtful I don't know y people say such things! What do they expect you to say?
Ilove - that thread is a good idea?!!! I will def be posting on there!
Hi to everyone else,Munchin- yeh I understand how u feel someone I know had a mc after me last year got pregnant straight after and had her baby on the weekend! So happy for them lively people but it does hurt as your still waiting for things to go good for you!'
As we all deserve happiness of a much wanted baby right?
My garden looks lovely very happy with it!!!!

Hi ladies!! In pub watching match but just popping in to say that I passed my assessment!! whoop whoop!!

Thanks for all you're kind words and support!!!

Great one - Moowoo!!!!! We knew YOU could do it!!!
Hope you had a good few drinks to celebrate!!!
I guess the football results also added to the good vibes in pubs up and down the country!!!!!!!
Whoooppppp whhooooopppppp!!!!

Hey all. I got quite annoyed at a friend trying to give me 'advice' and sympathy the other day. I thought 'what the hell does she know about it. I don't want to talk about how I'm ttc and no luck.' But then when I was whining to dh, I did think that maybe they're trying too and she was even less confident than me to talk about it.

I guess as much as people don't know what is going on with me, I don't know what's going on with them.

That said, it's still freaking annoying when friends start tellin me to 'just relax' or try whatever pseudo-science conception trick they've read about.

Hope everyone's having a good week and enjoying the sunshine!

Way to go moo! :)

munchkin I get that too when friends announce their pregnancies. I try my best to feel happy for them, but can't help but feel left behind.

Good point mrscool about not knowing what goes on with everyone else. Going through all this has really changed me, and knowing what I do now I would never think of asking anyone a question like "so when are you guys going to start trying for a baby?". A few years ago though... I was totally oblivious.

So, AF turned up last night. I suppose I should feel relieved that it didn't take that long to get it back, and that we can now start trying etc, but to be honest it still feels kind of shit...
Went to get the first batch of blood tests taken this morning I had no idea what I was in for! Was expecting the usual 3-ish vials, but they took seven! Feeling incredibly dizzy still.
Now there is the 21 day test, and then my appointment at the recurrent miscarriage clinic in the middle of July. Whether they find something or not, I'm really dreading this whole process. :(

Moo Well done on the assessment! All the revision during your time off obviously worked, huzzah! But even more excitingly...CLOMID! Yeah! Seeing as you've ovulated yourself pretty well the last few cycles then clomid can only be the cherry on the top. Fingers crossed it works, and works quickly. You've waited long enough.

Mezza people just don't think do they? They think they are being helpful or kind or something but really, think a thing through before saying it! Sorry about AF, it really brings it all back, doesn't it? The miscarriage clinic - I can understand why you feel trepidation but they may find something they can treat, mightn't they? And then you could get pregnant with a better chance of everything going ok.

Berries so sorry about your period turning up. It is pretty gutting I know. If I can try to make you feel better, if you still feel pretty low then it may be because of period hormones. I felt dreadful and really depressed until my period exited, and now I feel quite normal which is a relief. We've just got to keep on plugging away, in all sense of the word :)

Count glad your garden is looking great now! My garden is nice and weed free but something has been digging up my young cosmos plants, grr! Could it be the dog? Hmm.

Mrscool if only it was as easy as just relaxing!

Muchin I hope your mum has a change of heart about being pretty annoying...

CD13 in my world, if I was average that would be ovulation pretty soon but not for me, grrr. I still have to wait for at least 7 days, going by previous months! DP just described having sex to conceive as a 'happy chore'. I know what he means! Hopefully it will snap him out of the bad mood he is still in cos we've both decided to give up booze. It really isn't a problem for me as I've been drinking so lightly for over a year now but he is really missing it...we need all the help we can get though after his viral infection. If the high temps killed all his sperm then this coming ovulation won't have a chance anyway. Still, you never know...

Hey ladies. Very quiet in here. Hope everyone is ok and those waiting are doing so patiently and those DTD are doing so regularly.

WE WILL CATCH THOSE EGGS!!!!!

Disco sorry that ov seems to have changed. Buggery bugger!!! Glad your DH sees sex as a happy chore though, but not great he is being a bit moody. He'll get used to the lack of alcohol though. If he knows it's not forever then maybe that would help. I have tried to say the same thing to my DH but he doesn't listen!!

Berries what's going down with you?

Count glad the garden is looking lovely. Well done for all the hard work :)

Mezza sorry about the witches' arrival. It's a bitch all of this.

Thanks for all you congrats. I have finally come down of cloud 9 and have to knuckle down now for the real thing in November. Aaaargh!!

In TTC news; I am currently 9dpo and my cervix is def closed (Hurrah!!) I also can't stop being thirsty and I am abolutely shattered all of the time (I could easily crawl under my desk and sleep right now!)

Am getting very twitchy to test, but know that at 9dpo it's pointless, so I must remain strong and stick to my original plan of waiting until the day before AF is due. I still have some more cheapies but have got 2 digi's on standby plus i have ordered 2 more FRER.

Just want to see 2 lines and get a stick frickin' bean

Congrats moo on passing. Well done and hope you enjoyed a few in the pub!!! It's hard to resist poas when you have them in the house.

Disco tell dh it's only very short term for him because as soon as yous have your bfp his ban on alcohol is over. Glad he's enjoying the practicing lol. That's what my dh says not to get pg too quickly!! We wish.

Mezza sorry AF arrived but at least your getting on with your tests and sure maybe this month will be the one.

Hello to everyone else.

Absolutely nothing happening with me, no AF, no symptoms, just still get very occasional spotting every now and then. Wouldn't have a clue where I'm at in a cycle so pointless trying opks or hpt sticks.

No idea whats going on with my cycle either, brown discharge today 17 days after last brown discharge, 41 days after last period started. Humm no idea whats going on.

Hi ladies-
Mrs cool - don't you just want to tell these so called friends "where to shove" the advice & sympathy!!!!!!
Mezza-Ahhh boo about AF! Wow those blood vampires really had there fill of you, let hope it's sheds some light! Fingers crossed!
Disco- " Happy Chore" I like that title!!! Hopefully not too long for your BFP and drinks all around! Well apart from u!!!
Moowoo- ahhh you will be fine for nov hopefully you will have your BFP and that will be a great distraction! Sticky bean yep yep! Step away from those TESTS!!!!!!!!!!!
Munchin- hope your body settles soon, it's horrible just that knowing what's happening!
I'm oving today I'm cramping from my right side, back pains !

I'm still here just had a manic week!

You're right disco - the hormones of AF do not help. I feel heaps better today though... new cycle and all that jazz!

Well done on passing the test moo! and clomid - FANTASTIC!

I am resuming reflexology soon and really looking forward to it! Hoping that it helps as well. Booked a holiday this morning already - get me so productive! whoop!

Wow berries well done on booking a holiday. Where are you off to? I have used up all my holidays until Xmas :( but that's my own fault for swanning off to Bruge and Wales and god knows where else :) Hope the reflexology helps you to relax and goes some way to aiding a BFP in the not so distant future.

Count well done on the ov front; are you still abstaining from TTC until after your holiday or are you thinking of giving it another crack a bit sooner?

Munchin sorry that your body is playing silly buggers with you. Hope you get some sort of clear and definitive answer soon!!

Well 10dpo today and I think the witch might be beckoning. Have the most awful cramps that come and go, they don't last very long, but boy when they arrive i really know about it. Kind of toe curling. However, temp is at the highest it has ever been and my boobs are still tender (not as bad though). AF not really due for another 5 days, so she would be sloping in early and definitely ruining my party (and my beautiful chart). A turtle this morning has been inconclusive. Creamy CM and CP low, soft and closed. Only time will tell, but needed to share as you are the only people who I can talk to about this stuff that actually understand!!

Bloody wet here today as well; stuck my head out into the garden before I came to work as I was worried that some of my young veg might get over saturated, but i think it might be ok. My biggest fear now is that the kitchen floods as we are scheduled to get a lot of rain (i live in the northwest!!)

Hope everyone has a good day and manages to stay dry :)

Hi ladies - totally relaxed day just home exercised and had a light lunch and just chilled loved it!!!!
Ilove- well done on booking a hols - whoop!
Moowoo- I have everything crossed for you that this will be your month!!!
I'm holding off the TTC till maybe August as I don't want to miss out on our hols if I do get pregnant!!!!'
Oving pain is worse then ever do u think it's because it's from the other side or maybe because it's the first since the op!
Ilove was it like this for u?

Ladies all this talk of holidays is giving me the urge to book one especially with all this crappy rain. Where is everyone off to??

Get you Berries booking a holiday at 6.30am!!!! I was still in the land of nod!!! But good on you.

Count you have great restraint not ttc when you know your o'ing. But I suppose you want to be able to enjoy our hols.

Moo I'm intrigued by your cramps. Do you normally get them this far in advance of af? Liking the sound of the high temps.

Smiles the irregular spotting is annoying. Bad enough not getting pg but could we just not have normal cycles!!!!

Hello to disco and Mezza.

Well I got into my painting buzz again tonight and finished the sitting room, took three bloody coats.

Morning ladies!

Count well done on being so strong during ov! Not long to go now until your are back TTC and at least you can have a stress free holiday not wondering or worrying if you are or aren't. Very sensible.

Munchin way to go with the painting!! The rainy weather does have some benefits then

As for the cramping, it's now stopped. Don't usually cramp until the day AF is due and the bleeding normally follows straight away and I'll cramp for 2-3 days. I feel nothing now. Weird.

Should really be getting up to tidy the house and put a wash on before we head out for a 2nd birthday party but just sooo tired (plus I have toothache!!!)

Afternoon Moo!

I reckon I'm gearing up to ovulate! Only CD 16 too. Signs - pains on left hand side last night, a temperature dip this morning and a high cervix. Yeah! Normally I ov days 20 to 24 so hopefully I'll ov nice and early for once.

The dog has just fished a ball out from under the sofa that I have never seen before, WTF?! DP has just come home and he's never seen it either. Mad. Has the dog been going to the shops without me?

In other news I've lost another pound in weight, making it 5 lbs in two weeks and with a BMI of 24.8 I'm officially not overweight, yeah!

Moo, hopefully the weirdness is a good sign? When is your period due? Quite soon now methinks.

Well done on the painting Muchin! I'm going to the tip today and will then commence stripping border off wallpaper I want to keep. That's not going to be fun...

Count, the pain could be worse cos of your op I suppose...even tho you're not going to use this egg it is good to know everything is going on normally!

Berries, glad you feel better. Hormones can be a bitch! Where you going? Our summer hols are in Pembrokeshire this year, my favourite place in the world.

Smile, that does sound odd. Hope things become clearer with your cycles. Have you felt better since Father's day?

at your dog and the thought of him popping down the shops on his own !! Aren't they wonderful!!

Great news on the ovulation Disco whoop!!! Will you be able to dtd tonight?? Hope so and well done on your weight loss, thats bloody brilliant

My SSing is getting worse. I feel so nauseous and have tried to be sick but nothing happening. There is a smell in the house that is really churning my stomach but I have no idea what it is or where it's coming from its just nasty!

My FRERs arrived this morning, I know I shouldn't, but I'm gonna test with FMU because the last 2 days I've not felt right and the cramps lasting for 1 day was just odd!!

Moo...are you sure you should? Those chemical pregnancies upset you so much. I know I'm guilty of testing too early myself but would you feel comfortable if it did come up positive but you knew you still had a few days til your period arrives?

Anyway, I've got my fingers crossed for you!

We DTD this morning so that's sorted. Just know ovulation will make me wait now I've got all excited!

Where did you get your FRERs from Moo? They're so pricey in the shops!

Disco I know you are soooo right, but the not knowing is killing me. Plus, i am armed with Clomid now, so I know I will ov again next month and feel like a normal TTCer also I feel different this month. The last two times I've cramped all the way through the 2ww but this time just that one day and nothing! I'll see how the temps look and go from there.

Got the FRERs on Amazon. 2 pack for £6.97 plus free shipping. Ordered them 20th, dispatched 21st and arrived this morning!!