TTC 10 plus months, Part 7

[lisacn]

A friendly, supportive thread for those of us who are taking a bloody long little longer time than average to conceive.

Need to head to bed but wanted to say that sounds much better sar - you must feel a lot better now. As you say, not out of the woods, but one thing at a time. Hope for more good news tomorrow.

I saw a quote on my FB feed today - a bit mushy but appropriate for us here I think? "Being strong isn't something you choose to do. It's something you are forced to do when being weak isn't an option". We will each of us get through this, I know it.

Sorry about the Eggnog imagery lemon - was just thinking of alcoholic eggs is all :)

Right must go to bed and read the bible. Should I clarify each time I say that, exactly what bible I mean.? Not the one with the Capital B, anyway .

A mini post before bed but just wanted to wish wine lots and lots of luck xx
Similarly, GL with the follie and lining growth sar.
Will post properly tomorrow but did have iui #1 lemons. Unfortunately will be calling up for scans for #2 tomorrow. ERTD came an hour ago- with very few symptoms either way. Fuckety fuck fuck.

Morning ladies,
Argh, my posts were huge yesterday, I guess I kinda missed you all when I was away. I wil try and keep it brief today. But at least it gave you something to read in the carwash Nelly, that made me giggle! I also very much liked your shopping list, which can be set to The Twelve Days of Xmas!! I also think I agree with Mr Nelly about getting your test out of the way, that's what I would do anyway. And then you can get back on the TTC thang when you come back. But you gotta do what's right for you. If you don't want to miss your egg this month then go for it. Strap the feathers on and start hopping on the bad foot
Lemons animal fat and booze, is this some sort of new cocktail I'm missing out on?! Do you remember in Friends when they made Ross drink the fat? Your holiday sounds lovely. Glad that it gave you a chance for heart to hearts with Mr Lemons.
Buzzy Ah the Polish plumber is back? Your "if only the builder / plumber could fix it" made me laugh... (and maybe think a rude thing
Sarlat Well done on getting through your appointment, it sounds like it's all going in the right direction. I really hope that you get your go next week. Keep up the good work lady! Also, isn't it nice when you get to speak to medical people who reassure rather than scare. Glad it was a good experience. And Noooo I'm not a writer. Too many spelling mistakes and grammatical errors! I really wish I was tho, that sounds so much more glamorous than "pensions manager" . I'm not sure I'm in my 'forever' job, there are lots of other things I'd like to do, but I get to work in the family company, from home and earn good(ish) money. I am starting a new blog tho (inspired by artemis yesterday). It's going to be about being dairy free, which restaurants are good to eat at, which are terrible and some of the other lifestyle stuff I'm doing (non toxic home, organic make-up - all inspired by TTC and hormone imbalance - I haven't always been this 'hippy' *shudder!! and I hope that comes across in my blog imagines self on this morning telling the nation how i princess, started my successful blog career and am now net sensation sorry just off in a day dream there!!). I had to do our renovation books last night as I am the accounts dept in our house as well as the full time breadwinner and wife, so I didn't get 'round to a) writing my blog, which I was looking forward to all day or b) reading from front to cover the latest copy of Elle magazine, which I was planning to do all weekend or c) have a nice evening with OH as it all got a bit stressy over that f'cking floor, my family, his family, our garden, his mum, the new lawn, some bees (??!!), oh and 'im not putting any protein on my plate for dinner (he gets to be resident chef). Yay, love an argument over nothing before bed to ruin all of my plans and evening. Oh and this morning we had no bread, so I had scrambled eggs on plate. Because 'stupid' didn't buy any at the supermarket, whilst I was on flat showing duty last night. This is not doing my mood any favours (as you can tell) and I really think there is something in my diet. Happy, happy, happy :) :) :) (as long as I'm getting all the right foods), and now back to the old pendulum. I'll be going out to buy some brown stuff soon.
Nelly I usually hate those kinda quotes, but that one rings true. It's the whole, I'm not brave, I'm surviving thing sometimes isn't it? Maybe we could include a modified version of Gloria Gaynor's "I will survive" in our tail feather, sparkly dildo fertility dance?!
FrannieAnnie I'm not sure what ERTD means in TTC speak . I tried to look it up, Google helpfully suggested "what does retard mean trying to have a baby" - not much use there then!! Although if we amend that sentence, it could read: "what does retard mean? trying to have a baby." maybe Dr Google is trying to tell me something?! Sorry that its gone wrong for you though and hope that you scan is ok. Big hug.

Love to you all, I'm off into the world of pensions for today. Only 45 clients to deal with today Waves to everyone I've missed. May your day be merry and bright (Nelly got me in the Xmas mood with her list! - her fault not mine )

Hi ladies. Work has been really manic, so no real time to indulge in my mumsnet obsession. Hope you are all ok. Sorry to hear about iui fails frannie and lemons. Also wanted to say to wine that I hope today goes really really well and shiny clean womble is on it's way. Big hugs. sarlat so pleased to hear your follies are now playing ball (or should that be egg?!). Good luck with EC.

We're off abroad for a week for a wedding (sadly not a fancy dress woodland themed one princess), so will be signing off. First though we have our ivf follow up appt this arvo, eek! Have a humongous list of questions, bound to ignore the consultant...

Have good weeks ladies and I hope to see several bfps on here when I get back!

Nelly I think the issue with the HSG is the risk that the liquid might push and egg or embie back up thetube or into the abdominal cavity, risking an ectopic. Personally I wouldn't risk it. If you and I are finding it difficult to conceive with 2 tubes why risk losing one for the sake of waiting? I'd try to move the test forward or postpone until next month personally. If you leave it on day 14, I wouldn't swi untl afterwards. It's better to be safe than sorry I think.

bee I love the idea of getting a plumber in to sort out the baby making! Now, where to find a dishy plumber.... I'm thinking some sort of audition might be necessary? (Princess, after typing that I have just read your post and I think we are thinking along similar lines!)

Sarlat Mr euro's three tests were at the low end of normal but not terrible. But his 2 iui samples have been below normal for volume and count. On the upside, the quality of those that are there is good.

I'm glad that you had more positive news today. How awful that the person last week made you worry so much. I really don't think everyone involved in assisted conception realises the mental impact all this has on us.

frannie sorry to hear about the arrival of ERTD. Good luck for iui #2!

Good luck for the appointment Gin!

Princess ERTD=evil red tide of doom. Less twee than AF, I think!

FF decided this morning that I oved on Saturday. I don't believe it though as I got my first OPK on Saturday and that was day 13. I have never oved earlier than day 14 on an unmedicated cycle. I certainly hope I didn't ov then as the IUI wasn't until Sunday. I think FF might be a bit confused because I slept very badly over the weekend so I don't think my temps can be relied upon. Anyway, that puts me in the 2ww and back on the steroids now.

Quick phone post. Took your advice euro and phoned to reschedule - for 9am this Thursday .

Have been reading the bible. No lightbulb moments thus far other than I think I've under-appreciated how important CM is, so perhaps missing opportunities, and also going to try charting for a but just to confirm if I'm right about my cycle. I do wonder if this past cycle was an early miscarriage . But knowing that would at least tell me I could get pregnant.

Hooray for weddings abroad gin. Enjoy, and hope the appt went well.

Quick wave to everyone else, and their plumbers . Mine is Ginger. I do have a very handsome vet though?

PS princess I dread to think what my family and friends would say if that shopping consisted of my Christmas presents? Oh, urine spray - how kind! With matching breast pads.

Gah. Cluster post. Also huge commiserations frannie on ERTD .

Thanks Euro Thanks for the FYI - ERTD is much less twee than AF. I'm also v. glad that we use SWI on this thread and not BDing. Big cringe. I actually couldn't believe the expression 'baby dancing' when I first stumbled upon it. Surely a massive joke? Then it made me think of Ally McBeal, which is just plain bizarre in the context of TTC. And then my Dad made a comment that perhaps we're not getting pregnant because we don't listen to Barry White whilst doing the deed shudder and then I found out about baby dust? FFS. Baby dust? Like TTC is some sort of magic fairy tale event? Magic baby dust anyone? in squeaky fairy voice. Stupid people. Good luck for your 2ww, I've got my fingers crossed for you this time as well. Here, why not have some baby dust . Oh and maybe we should have a sort of The Voice type audition for said hunks, perhaps called The Sperm, and then if they sounded suitable we could spin our chairs?! Just a thought :)
Gin enjoy your wedding (in normal outfit and in sun ) Hope all went well this afternoon.
Nelly I'd love to see their faces. How would the recipient react to the TCOYF?! I had to show OH some of the pics in there, in a sort of creep up and go, "LOOOK at THIS!" his face !!!!! I think TTC has ruined his boy mind forever! Still good preparation for birth methinks!

Note to self don't read mumsnet when on acupuncture table with needles in face, its very painful when I laugh

princess and euro you made me smile a lot with the plumber and the TTC lingo rant! Oh and distributing nelly's shopping list at Christmas. I am sitting here plotting who would get what...

Have fun at the wedding and good luck with asking the questions needed at follow-up gin!

Loving the cluster posting and well done on moving the appointment nelly.

So sorry you've had an iui fail too, frannie. Good luck for the next one.

Good news sar and pleased you've got someone to reassure you. Good luck for more egg growing this week and good EC soon.

Right - knackered after job interview here, so I am going to make myself a nice cuppa!

wine - thinking of you and good luck!

princess - i'm not sure my acupuncturist does do any good if i'm being honest! I'm clutching at straws and excuses but I think I will continue because I have read so much good stuff about it. Actually my periods are a lot less clotty since doing acupuncture so that is a good thing. Who wrote the @must be hormones book'? And I wonder why our hormones have got out of wack since ttc and m/c's? bloody irritating. and at hoping all those smug people get terrible piles and hot flushes!

nelly - What a lovely quote you posted. I'm secretly in to those mushy kind of quotes. Well done on rescheduling the hsg.

sarlat - Oh that's much better and you are sounding a bit more chirpier. one step at a time but that all sounds good. It still makes me cross that that idiot doctor started scaring you like that. Twaddle! I know there are a lot of hurdles to cross but this is going to happen for you.

frannie - oh I am sorry about af. Sometimes I think it is better when it comes with no warning as then at least it is there and not playing with you by sending out all sorts of symptoms. however, it still totally sucks. Onwards and upwards to IUI no.2.

gin - have a good holiday and wedding.

So I have just had my first NHS consultant appointment. The upshot is....drum roll....it's unlikely they will find a problem. 25% of people they see won't get an ansewr. Having said that, the lady I saw was very nice and I didn't particularly mind she was calling me 'darling'. So her plan of action is to do a monitoring cycle this cycle and to see what's happening. Very lucky that I'm on AF so she kicked me off with a scan (still find it gross when i'm on af, yuk!). Also will get my basic bloods retested again (amh, lh/fsh, etc). After this cycle a decision will be made as to whether I should have a laparascopy. I'm going to push for this. If nothing is found she says ivf as I have tried iui already.

I mentioned the luteal phase thing and she said luteal phase defect is very rare. If there is a short luteal phase , it could be down to ovulatory problems.

I said I thought I was going through a perimenopause but she doesn't think I am as she counted plenty of follicles on the ovaries. So I think I will park that massive worry until I get the results of my bloods.

Mentioned really sore boobs and she just said that's a hormonal thing.

I did ask how I could have got pregnant so quickly in the first place and then nothing for 2 years and she said over 50% of people who end up there have had a pregnancy before.

I was pleasantly surprised by the meeting really. It's all at a very basic level but I'm pleased she mentioned a laparascopy as I don't want to miss out on that kind of fun.

waving to critter, buzzy, euro et al

Evening

I'm all set for egg collection on Thursday morning. They expect to get around 6-8 eggs. Would have like a few more but don't want to be greedy. .

Hope the op went well Wine - have been thinking of you.

Nelly - that last cycle could have been ealy chemical pregnancy. If it was, I think this cycle coming should be slightly more fertile!

Joy - great that you had a good NHS appointment. They seemed to talk sense and reassured you too. I have also started to realise that many people who are long term ttc do have early miscarriages and then nothing. Nobody ever seems surprised but nobody seems to know why either. Even if these tests don't throw up a cause, you will know you have done all the investigations you can and you can march forward with a fresh clinic and fresh approach. I'm feeling all excited and optomistic for you.

Thanks to everyone for the good luck posts - I truely felt the many positive vibes.

Take trigger shot at 10.50 tonight. Really tired, but musn't sleep, musn't sleep.

xx

joyce :) good news on the appointment, they seem switched on and proactive

gin oooh where are you going??? Anywhere where the sun is shiny :)

frannie sorry about AF, i'm due in 2 days

euro good luck with 2ww and taking the Pred, I'm liking princess's idea about 'The Sperm' I certainly wouldn't say no to my Polish Plumber, he really was tall dark and handsome

nelly glad you've rescheduled and love the shopping list

sarlat yay to EC on Thursday :)

lemon when do you find out about your interview

princess man I laughed about your dads comment about Barry White and 'stupid' not buying the bread, the Polish builder is different to my Polish Plumber but both could be contenders

waves to everyone else and thanks for entertaining me during acu

That is great news sarlat. But proof positive, if ever we needed it, that sometimes Doctors talk complete shite; or at the very least deliver a worst-case-scenario that is not only completely premature, but usually in a tone that implies it's a full on certainty. All that worry for what may have been nothing. 6-8 sounds plenty as a starter . Will you do ICSI or IVF, apologies I can't remember your whole story. Hope you are still awake anyway! Also, I like your theory of this one being more fertile. Between that and the HSG I'm sure to get updiffed, right...?

LOL buzzy at you laughing in your acu, and hope AF stays away.

joy as others said to me after my first appointment, it's a bit too soon to say unexplained as you haven't had all the tests have you? But I guess unexplained should be better than perimenopausal?! But I am very pleased you feel that it was a positive appointment and you are moving forward? Have you been charting, I can't remember? (Can you tell I've been reading TCOYF today!)

Hope interview went well lemon, when will you hear do you think?

I am all for The Sperm! For a bit of eye candy at the very least!!

I have been hobbling tonight so need to go and make a cuppa to wind down before bed. Hope everyone is doing well, especially wine who will fingers crossed be not too uncomfortable, getting loads of TLC, and have the shiniest womble known to woman :)

Absolutley Nelly! Stay positive - it can happen and could just be around the corner.

I'm having IVF - DH's sample is fine.

Done the trigger shot. Phew.

Goodnight

You ladies do make me laugh and I love the elements that overlap - not TTC stuff.
Princess your rant about metaphors. Maybe it is a competition to see who can be the most coy? Smiled at you being a pensions manager. I worked in pensions until I took off to go tiki-touring.
nelly yay for booking your hsg. Liked the quote too. So very true for the past year here, at 4.5 shake yesterday. Don't like it when the earth gets more frisky, makes me nervous.
sarlat Glad someone spoke something helpful. They might be very bright these docs, but bedside manner obviously gets missed. Good luck with EC Thursday.
Joyce Very pleased you had such a nice consultant.
Having missed this month the tail feathers are going to get a spruce up and be super shiny . Mr Teu looked at me as if I'd gone mad last night telling him about tail feathers!

Gah! Hi to everyone else. wine hope it all went well.
I'm still struggling with the scrolling up and down, finding and remembering stuff!

Small update to say im alive, with womble and sparkly tubes. Didn't go at all like I'd thought as the fibroid had degenerated these past few weeks which explains the horrible pain I've been in. I most certainly could have done without open surgery but they did some rummaging and repositioning while they were in there. I feel like I've been hit by a train and will be begging for them not to take my morphine drip out! Registrar heavily pregnant do found her ivf is end of the road line yesterday rather annoying. Fibroid gate is def a chapter of my life I'll be glad to move on from

But Dr Big, in spite of being mortified at what has happened has come up with a plan v similar to what I talked about on here. I also get iui funding which I'm v happy about. On the plus side my womble hasn't been cut and we will be back on the trying wagon early July ironically what is needed to correct my uterus position and shift it fully away from my bowels is.....a pregnancy! If only I'd thought of that myself.

Soz for me me me ness but ive shirt term memory of gnat. Good luck sarlet though - bad scare monger doctor. I am reading so do keep posting funny things. But not too funny as laughing isn't on the menu. Chicken korma with cabbage and swede is though. Boak. Love you all. Off to stock up on morphine!

Hi ladies,

Sorry for the radio silence recently - combination of work and crappy internet connections has put paid to me catching up on anything!

Just wanted to say wine - I've been thinking of you. I'm so glad everything went well and they haven't caused too much short-term womble damage in the process. Keep stocked up on the morphine. Big hugs x

sarlat - I'm sorry about the horrid scaremongering doctor you had. Hope you managed to stay awake last night remembers having to put matchsticks in eyes to stay awake until 2am! Best of luck for egg collection - sending your follies growing vibes

joycep - your appointment sounds positive and like you had a good conversation about next steps.

gin - hope your follow-up went ok. Have a lovely and well deserved holiday

Hello and waves to all you other lovely ladies. Off for another manic day at work now x

Thanks ladygee. I saw my registrar again today. My tubes are in good nick but the dye didn't want to go through at first and then whooshed through. I hope hope hope that gunky pipes might just be the problem.

Oh I hope so wine, with a spring-cleaned womble and sparkly tubes that BFP finger will be pointed in your direction very soon. Do you know how long you'll be in hospital for?

Til Friday. Bit unsure how I'm going to actually get out of bed!

Morning lovelies!

Well done for getting through surgery wine and for the shiny womb and tubes. Fingers crossed the junk was causing issues and you will be in for one of the earliest snake babies of the fred.

Well done for staying awake and triggering sarlat. Growing thoughts to your follies. Mine don't need any. I had the cd10 scan (I have short cycles) and there was a fat 21mm one ready to pop, so it is IUI tomorrow.

Hi lady, nice to see you, hope work is good as well as busy. Maybe it proves a good distraction.

Interview went well, just got a call to invite me to an assessment, so we're into the next round... :)

Wine splendid news about the womb and tube tidy. Great, great news! Hope you are feeling ok. It won't be long until you graduate now . Enjoy the morphine for now and stay put and be pampered (as much as you can be). Hope Mr Wine is sneaking tasty food treats in for you. I'm not liking the sound of Korma and cabbage Poor you!! Great news on the funding too, although after the tidy I bet there won't be any need at all.

Lemons congrats on making the next round. That's very exciting. And IUI tomorrow. Maybe there will be a fresh bout of BFPs to set this thread on fire. I'll be cheer-leading from the side for new early snake babies with fertility feathers, sparkly dildos and pom poms - GOOOOoooooo SNaaaaaaaakkkkeeess! :)

Lady hello! Nice to see you. Hope all is well with you besides lots of work and bad internet connection.

Teu glad to hear the tail feathers are looking glossy.

Sarlat well done for the trigger shot and fingers crossed for egg collection tomorrow. Glad it's all sounding more positive and your doctor was scaremongering

Joycep thanks for sharing about your appointment. It inspired me to start getting my questions together for my meeting with the consultant (or whoever I get to see) next month. It sounds like it was both productive and reassuring. You must be relieved to hear that you have lots of follicles. And as nelly said above, they haven't done all of the tests, so you may not fall into the annoying 25% category (I still think this is a nonsense!) and there may be a tiny glitch which can be rectified super easily. The book is by Marion Gluck btw.

Waves to buzzy, artermis, euro and anyone else I've missed :)

I don't really have much news this morning. Except that the limecrete part of the floor is going in today and OH and his Dad will be huffing away together. I'm super glad I'm not there!! I've seen pictures of the insulating foamed glass loose layer and geothermal membrane that went in yesterday and all in and looking good. MIL very helpfully earthed up my potatoes yesterday, which I was saving for this weekend, so I'm a little bit but she wasn't to know so I'm not too . Right prospective buyers rubberneckers turning up any minute. Putting my best this is the best flat in the universe sales face on. Have a great day xxxxx