TTC 10 plus months, Part 7

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A friendly, supportive thread for those of us who are taking a bloody long little longer time than average to conceive.

Morning all,

Just quickly checking in. And to say that I am very excited to be meeting some of you tomorrow. Is there a venue? I need to be able to print some sort of map off of Google as I am pretty rubbish with directions!!

Sarlat sorry to hear about the BFN but it's too early, fingers crossed for later this week.

Euro how are you today? Sorry to hear that your period was on her way over the weekend. I really, really, really hope that your journey is drawing to a close.

Carrie sorry to hear about the pressure. It gets to us all at some point, including the OHs. Hope you have sorted it all out with him now.

Lemon Morning bicycle ride in the sunshine sounds lovely :)

MrsT as Lemons says, don't worry about offloading here. We all understand. And we all take our turn with the sad stick. You're in good company. Hope you feel better today. Are you back at work yet.

Buzzy at your Italian holiday. All that lovely gelato and wine and pasta. ENJOY your time away and try and forget about all of the TTC bollocks. I must admit I did snigger about the talk of your allotment jungle and Beryl thinking that that was a euphemism!! I'm also very impressed with your fixing prowess. And I'm sure your OH wouldn't want you to feel so down about baby feet. Shehata was positive about your situation, I think you should hold on to that discussion.

Becks are you back from hols yet? We haven't heard from you for ages....

Critter Archers and tea. Very,very British! Love it :) I visited Goergetown many years ago and absolutely loved it there. Those gardens sound really amazing and very beautiful. I'm sure they weren't looking at you like a yuppy in the whole food store, probably, wow we're super impressed with her ability to quaff mega green juice. I did at the coconut water and elderly metro dog. Actually I snorted a laugh because Mr P loves coconut water and is always being ribbed about being a metro. He has a better skin care regime than me... Maybe your friends dog and my DH would get along and could go out for bowls of coconut water together?!?!?!?!

MrsD hope your flight went ok. Can't wait to meet you tomorrow

Teu hope your first day at the new job goes well today. Sorry to hear about imminent arrival of AF.

Beryl hope you have a lovely break. Sorry to hear you felt with all the small people around. DH and I always coo over little people, which does make me feel a bit but more often than not gives me renewed purpose in the brown diet and all the other TTC bollocks.

I read that horrible IVF thread on Satuday. It made me feel so angry. The OR who set it up for her entertainment is clearly the most heartless, insensitive, attention seeking, provocative sort of person. I was glad to see so many people stick it to her. I was also proud to see some people from our thread on there too. It made me realise just how cruel the smug babied can be. She is definitely on the list of people I wish the itchiest of hemorrhoids, the worst of incontinence problems upon in later life. I would like to think that she is the sort of person who will end up on Embarrassing Bodies with a film crew up her backside or fanjo (I know what TV people are like - I used to be one - and believe me they would not be nice about filming a middle aged hemorrhoid or leaking fanjo) . Anyway, it also made me think how terrific and supportive our thread is. The sort of place I like to be. Out there feels a bit scarey and I hope that we all stick together be it virtually or eventually in RL through pregnancy and child rearing.

In other news, we spent a grueling weekend at the house. I feel like I've done 10 rounds in the ring today. Steaming wallpaper off a ceiling was not the mos pleasant task in this heatwave. And we don't have a plumbed toilet at the moment so drinking lots of water and then having to be driven to the park for a wee is not very fun. Anyway, we are making good progress and hopefully looking to have most of the house completely done in the next 6 weeks.

Right, back to work. Waves to anyone missed. Hope you all have nice days today. Looks like it's going to be another sunny day :)

X post with Euro. Sorry to hear about AF. Hope you are still feeling more positive about IVF. xxx

Hey ladies, sitting at the airport all ready to go, mr b has wondered off with my passport anyway just wanted to say i'll miss you wonderful ladies, not sure how i'm going to cope for two weeks, got 3 bars on the cbfm so mr b better be ready sarlat its too early to test, I didn't get anything till 14dpo, fingers crossed, have a lovely meet up and i'll pop on when I can :-)

I can barely contain myself, I have just had a faint line on an OPK - this is the first time ever! I can't wait for my next wee to see if the next one shows another line

Morning ladies

Euro I'm sorry about AF. Hope that you are okay and onwards & upwards to IVF.

Sarlat Sorry about your BFN but as others have said it just might be a little early to test yet. I totally understand what you mean when you said about IVF being more pressurised and a harder place to fall from.

carrie How are you feeling today. Have the pains gone?

Buzzy have a great holiday and FX for a holiday baby!

teuchter I like the fact that your cat has a title. She sounds so cute.

beryl Babies do seem to be everywhere at the moment.

artemis any developments in the AF front?

critter at your furry legs and yellow shorts. I don't "do" Summer very well & am usually spotted with foundation running down my face, a snotty tissue clamped to my nose (hayfever) and squinting like Steptoe because I feel a div in sunglasses. I went out today in jeans and Caterpillar boots and wondered why I was sweating like a pig and feeling faint! I do this every year, promise myself I'll buy some decent Summer clothes and then before I know it the shops have their Winter stuff in (in about July?????)

kitty Hello, it's lovely to hear your update. Gosh a 12 week scan already, you must have a little bump now. Lovely

mrsTolis I'm sorry that you have been feeling down. Don't avoid us when you're fed up, that's what we're here for!

lemons 11DPO and resisting testing - I admire your resolve! Fingers firmly crossed for you.

princess at having to drive to the park to use the loo.

I had a rather crappy weekend, despite the lovely weather, complete with an unexpected TTC meltdown. I had been feeling rather accepting of things of late so doing the snotty, "we're all doomed" routine rather took me by surprise. I think it was a combination of 1) getting a letter from the hospital from the registrar about the results of my lap in which it said that I have an "acutely anteverted uterus" (news to me & not mentioned at my fertility appointment at all!) and 2) being indoors on Saturday while DH was doing overtime and sat here listening to all the families in their gardens with their children having barbeques and in the paddling pools etc.. I just felt so angry that I wasn't enjoying the sun with my own family and doing "normal" family things that people take for granted so much. Still feel pissed off about it all today!

Anyway....waves to everyone I have missed. Hope that you have a lovely meet up. I am still too chicken to come and will be kicking myself tomorrow no doubt!

sarlat - i am so sorry about the bfn. 11dpo is too early and don?t you have to wait until 14 days past transfer to test...? Are you on progesterone suppositories? I would give it a few more days to test...if you can bear it. I am glad you have got some people around you who are looking after you. You have been incredibly brave and I hope the next few days brings some better news.

mrstoll - I am sorry you have been feeling awful lately. As Lemon said, don?t you ever worry about spreading negativity. That?s what we are here for and I know that I am often spreading my negativity. I hope you feel a bit better this week.

buzzy - have a fab holiday! Hope you can park all this crap stuff to one side. And critter - i hope you are enjoying your long weekend out there as well.

euro - i am sorry about AF and IUI not working. I hope you are ok ..well as ok as anyone can be at starting ivf.

princess - where is this thread on IVF? By the sounds of it is going to really wind me up but moth to flame, glutton for punishment etc etc! And that?s great news about finding your LH surge...does this mean your diet is working?

pout - i am sorry about your crappy weekend. It?s very unpleasant how these horrible feelings can just sneak up on us and it?s especially cruel when you think you are handling everything. What is an acutely anteverted uterus? That?s not bad news is it? Don?t they say that people with anteverted uterus should be having swi doggy style? Sorry for that info, I am sure i have read that on my ttc travels. There is just no controlling that anger when it pays a visit. I find it can eat me up and it jst makes me feel so glum about everything. I hope it now subsides for you. Do you have a consultation with a doctor about your Lap now or have they referred you for ivf?

I look like a lobster. My factor 30 at the weekend didn?t seem to work very well. I was camping with a bunch of girls this weekend. It was lovely actually. However my friend did tell me that it was a good job I don?t work at my old place of work because 5 of my old colleagues are pregnant (and only 20 people if that in the office). 4 of them are due within a month of each other ? all their 1st, all of them got married less than a year ago. Also one old colleague who married a 38 yr old woman last year has already had a kid. Again maddening because everyone knew how much booze, coke and other class A?s they take.. Thank god I am not there . It?s bad enough hearing about it though. I just found myself sitting there glumly just shaking my head in disbelief that all these people I know from one office are pregnant. Sigh and humph.

Ah Pout sorry it was a rubbish weekend. It's really difficult when TTC woe sneaks up and taps you on the shoulder when you are trying to relax and have a nice time. Hope today has been better for you. I think I've said before but my mum has an acutely anteverted uterus and it didn't stop her getting upduffed by accident / at will. Why don't you brave the meet up tomorrow. I won't bite (unless you are holding a non-sorbet delicious icrecream ). I'm sure none of the other ladies are biters either and it will be so nice to hang out with like-kinds. Go on, I dare you I realise that in my post above it sounds like OH had to take me to the park to go to the toilet and that sounds like I'm a dog or something

Joycep Glad you had a nice camping trip. Perfect weather for it! Although sorry you are sun burnt. The thing you say about your ex-colleagues getting preggo so easily is one of the biggest reasons that I'm glad I don't work in my old office and that I work at home with DH next to me, Dad as boss and an office of people 80 miles away who I can summon on the phone at will. No hearing the moaning about children, no pregnant women looming around the place constantly ramming their faces with percy pigs and cocktail sausages, no surprise announcements from nit wit colleagues (I always found the blokes who had fertilised their women ugg ugg to be the absolute worst. Financial advisers aren't renowned as the most sensitive and lovely of men at the best of times). It's quiet in my office but actually I consider you guys to be my office banter and I like it like that. I hate your colleague with the habits very much. I always wonder whether the lifestyle choices will have an effect on the child. Not in a nasty way. I just couldn't cope with the guilt and wonder how other people do. But then again, maybe they just don't know how lucky they are and don't stop to think. We were discussing this with MIL and DIL last night.

Also, I forgot to mention. I had a lengthy chat with my Nan on Friday (she is only 74 - we are a family of young breeders - well some of us anyway). I was filling her in on my woes (we've always been quite close) and she mentioned that my Great Nan (who I remember, she died when I was 7 and was an absolute gem) took 7 years to have her and another 12 to have my Great Aunt, and I worked out in reflexology that she would have been 32 when she had Nan and 44 when she had my Great Aunt. Nan wonders if I take after her because everyone else (both maternal and paternal) has got pregnant really easily i.e. not even bothering to try, upfduffed on the first go every time without fail. So perhaps I have found my missing genetic link and it also felt nice to feel that I'm going through something which has already been experienced but ended up with a positive outcome. My Nan told me that her mum sat her down when she was 18 and told her that she might not be able to have children and that she should be prepared. I'm really glad my Nan told me this because it made me feel less of a freak in my family.

Oh and another stronger line on my wee stick this afternoon. Go Brown Diet, Go!

Afternoon everyone

Scorching here still... hoping it continues for the long weekend.

Hugs to Sarlat but 11 dpo probably is too early, wait a few more days then test? When do you have a blood test at the clinic? I can imagine it must be so much harder to face a BFN with an IVF cycle after everything you have been through and the increased hope. Still got my fingers crossed for you.

Hugs to Euro too, really sorry this wasn't your month. Are you getting the wheels in motion now for IVF? How are you feeling?

Beryl and Buzzy, hope you have fabulous trips... Buzzy I am particularly envious of the Italian wine and food, mmmm...

MrsT how are you feeling today? You can be honest with us... as others have said, there's no need to spare anyone on here if you are feeling down, that's one of the reasons this thread exists...

Princess well done on all that house renovating! Must be exciting seeing it all take shape though I don't envy you DIY in the heat (or trips to the park to cock your leg!) And how exciting to get the positive OPK... all good press for the brown diet. I am back on the booze free healthy diet wagon after the weekend but that is less to do with TTC and more because I had the distressing experience of seeing my own backside in a changing room mirror. With 6 weeks until we go on holiday, me on the beach is not a sight I want to inflict on the world. So I shall exercise my iron will

Teu we have a feline fur baby too though she's not much of a substitute as she won't be picked up and cuddled. On the other hand she is moody, bad tempered, a fussy eater and creates a trail of destruction around the house so perhaps not bad preparation for living with a toddler/teen... How was your first day in the new job?

Pout sorry about your meltdown. It makes me really how things pop up in letters that have not been said to your face. Have you been able to find out what the antroverted womb diagnosis means in terms of ttc? I've been struggling with other people's families too (see below)... and the summer dressing... I can't do it either. MrA announced on saturday that he hated what I was wearing, and pretty much every other summer dressing option I came up with, so I made him come shopping but he spent the whole time pissing about on facebook on his phone and barely looked up. Everything he liked I hated and vice versa. This from a man who thinks jeans and a t-shirt qualify as dressing up. eesh. You did make me with the Bobbit suggestion, I shall shamelessly steal that line if Rod Stewart is ever mentioned again

Critter I do love linen but the relaxed cool lasts right until I get out of the car and realise I look like a crumpled mess...

Lemons well done at getting out cycling! and not testing - someone else with iron will. Fingers crossed...

Wine did you get your scar sorted? How are you doing now? I know just what you mean about being able to envisage a successful outcome for other people but not yourself. I feel exactly the same.

Joycep really not fair at all those ex colleagues being pg, really good job you don't work there any more. I get really riled at people with shitty lifestyles (like Mrsden's McDonalds-scoffing neighbours) who can still fall on a cock and get magically diffed. Our neighbours have an indeterminate number of small children and we frequently hear them and their mates planning the week's drug purchases while in the back yard sinking cans of stella and dropping fag ash all over their kids' heads. It gets me soooo pissed off.

Carrie I'm sorry you had a disagreement with Mr C, badly timed performance issues do my head in. How are you today - has the ov pain gone?

Kitty lovely to hear all's going well with you, hope all is well with the 12 week scan, sure it will be!

Well the kippers were well founded, AF arrived properly on Saturday and made up for her late arrival by being extra heavy and painful. I had really got my hopes up this time (though with no real justification) so felt pretty miserable. I am especially annoyed that I spotted for 3 days before AF which is longer than usual, I thought clomid was meant to resolve problems with progesterone levels and luteal phase so I don't know why the spotting has carried on.

We had a couple of birthday/family parties to go to over the weekend so had to deal with lots of other people's families. No babies thankfully but lots of toddlers and older kids. There was a really cute little girl at Saturday's bash who turned out to have two mummies. They were such a gorgeous little family, completely besotted with each other, I was really . I don't know why but it made me feel particularly crap that me and MrA are less capable of breeding than a couple of lesbians. Though I guess they have the advantage of a spare womb/set of ovaries if one doesn't work...

I had better go, MrA is just home and I haven't got tea ready like I said I would, I am so not a domestic goddess... Waves to everyone, hope you all have a nice sunny evening wherever you are

Mini post as still high from sedation and minus three wisdom teeth. Thanks for the support guys and love you all!

Hello all,
So sorry it's been so long. Have a massive deadline at work this Thursday so have been working all hours (stuck over a computer inside when it's been glorious out there!) Anyway, will be glad to take an evening out tomorrow to take a little trip to London .

This is a bit shit as I still need to carry on working now, so this post is going to be superquick (and littered with typos). Big apologies- I get my life back in 3 days!
Just wanted to say a massive sorry for the AF arrivals. It never gets easier and it's so bloody hard not to get hopes up. Hope you are all able to at least have some wine or chocolate to dull the misery slightly.
carrie hope you're feeling better.
sarlat hold on in there- it ain't over til the fat lady sings. Thinking of you.
princess yay to + opks. How are you resisting a shag fest?!
mrs t teeth as well
beryl and buzzy have great breaks.
wine hope the scar is healing better now.
kitty lovely to hear from you- you are my ray of 'unexplained infertility' hope!
lemons fingers crossed and only a few more days to go..
joycep a quarter of the office? WTF? Thank goodness you're not there anymore.
Frantic waves to everyone else.

Sorry if I made my homelife sound all mysterious and exciting. Really not- just a potential move coming up that is quite an upheaval!

After saying I was strangely detached from the situation at the moment I decided to cry on the IUI nurse today. For no apparent reason. It's a strange old game this....
Love to all xxxx

Hi ladies, am going to try to catch up with you, as it's been far too long. Very much looking forward to seeing some of you in real life tomorrow!

princess I love long term ttc stories and how lovely to hear about your great nan. Honestly you deserve a medal for the brown diet and steaming wallpaper in the heat! Sod the Olympics, there should be a long term ttc-ympics :) And yay for the pee stick lines.

joyce thank god you are no longer at your old workplace! I'm cross/envy face and I don't even know the people.

pout so sorry to hear about the glumness over the weekend. Thinking about things like that totally set me off too. It's all shite. I've been finding myself getting increasingly bitter just walking round and seeing small children - how come everyone else can procreate? Having said that, I did read in a mag so it must be true that 44% of women aged 32-44 don't have kids. Where are they all??

buzzy have an amazing holiday and enjoy shag week

So sorry to hear about the iui fail euro and lots of good luck with the ivf. Are you on the short protocol?

sarlet it's too early to believe any pee stick results at the moment! I know when I was doing my cycle, some ladies got bfns, followed by BFP. And if it doesn't work out, you will get through it and have lots of lovely frosties awaiting you. I think my first negative hpt was the hardest to deal with (apart from af meltdown) but I had af symptoms so knew deep down it was right.

artemis so sorry for crap weekend of af and other people's kids. Doesn't get any easier does it?

mrst I was so poorly after having just the one wisdom tooth out, urgh. Far far worse than the ivf ops!

carrie so sorry you are having a tough time.

mrsd hope you had a good flight!

I'm still ing at the metro dog with his coconut water critter and bring joined by mrprincess. My furry baby is totally spoilt too. Archers and tea, lovely!

Hello to all I've missed!

Well af is a week late but that's expected with a post ivf cycle and I had about 10 days of serious ewcm, so think I ov'd really late. Feeling v periody and suspect it'll start tomorrow. Am hoping it's not an evil one cos I realllly want to come to the meet up and will try not to be too miserable/grumpy about af! But apologies if I seem like a mardy cow, it's my hormones honest! On the plus side, the cystitis I've had since ET finally seems to have been vanquished by a course of antibiotics, so I'll be able to tuck into some booze.

For those who asked, the flower show was lovely and I now wanna spend ££s in garden centres for our post stamp sized garden.

Weekend was ok apart from being repeatedly told at a wedding how mrgin would make a lovely dad and asked we're we going to start a family by one of his older ex colleagues. FFS. We managed to change the subject but she nobbled me in a corner. I was vague and retaliated by asking her if she was looking forward to having grandchildren at some point, ha!

See you tomorrow lovely ladies and waves to those who can't make it.

X post frannie sorry to hear about iui cry. Hugs & see you tomorrow

Massive hugs for frannie's cry and pout's melt-down. And have lots of fun tomorrow ladies!!

Morning

Buzzy - Italy sounds wonderful! Would love to plan a trip to Italy. I think people usually try another cycle of IVF again after about 3 months to give the body time to settle after all the drugs. But I have gathered that from forums, have not been told this by my Dr.

Lemon - so we are at the same stage of our cylces. Am I right in thinking yours is an IUI cycle? If so do you have to take any drus post ovulation the way you do with IVF? How have you been feeling?

Euro - sorry IUI didn't work out this time. It's all so unfair - we put heart body and soul in to this and it is just heartbreaking at times. But on a positive note, you have a new chapter just around the corner.

Princess - well done with all the home improvements. Can we see some photos when it's done? Your Greatgrandmother's story is interesting! I do think families repeat themselves. You are at an advantage over her however due to modern day knowledge and technology and medication. Woohoo for a positive OPK . If you have never had one before, this could be the final piece in the jigsaw for you. Wishing you lots of luck with this cycle.

Pout - sorry you have been so down. I don't know where these awful feelings emerge from but I think we all know exactly what you mean. Its always comes after a period of optimism too. Be kind to yourself and do nice things.

Joycep - My clinic is testing me at the traditional 14 dpo rather than pt with a blood test. This is because I took part in a trial which is monitoring woman who may be at increased risk of OHSS. Therefore I have had a few more scans along the way and extra blood tests. As a result of this, they are testing me at 14dpo too. Normally I would have waited to go back to clinic at 17 dpo or about 14 days post transfer for a POAS test. Your camping trip sounds fun. Hope the lobsteresque colour changes to a nice golden tan. Grrr to the stories of the super fertile types. Aaaahhhhh!!

Frannie - I too have cried with the nurses at clinics. But sorry you felt so sad. Somethimes a good cry helps a bit as it changes their behaviour towards you and they listen a bit more to your concerns. It's their job so sometimes it helps to remember the emotions that are attached to a person. I don't say that in a nurse bashing way. I am a clinician myself and facing lots of patients day in and day out does become normal and its easy if you are not careful to lose sense of the individual.

Artemis - sorry about AF! Big hugs (may need those hugs in return in a couple of days).

Mrs T - Hope you feel better soon. Enjoy the lovely sedation.

Gin - thank you for your wise words about IVF results. It is so hard waiting isn't it. The first week I was all chilled and really 'done' with thinking about IVF stuff. But going batty now. Sorry about those nosey wedding guests. Geeeez what are people like? I can't belive people would be so rude. It pays to have some standard one liners that you can reel out for these occasions. Don't have any witty ones myself but I usually just say something like "yeah, we might have kids at some point" Very unoriginal.

Is it today that some of you are meeting up in London? Have a lovely time and a good natter. Raise a glass of something nice (alcoholic or not) in honour of yourselves.

I am having my pregnancy test on Thursday which will be a blood test. I am going more crazy every hour. I was super relaxed right up until Sunday night. Up until Sunday night, I was a bit fed up of IVF stuff and ready to not think about it. But them all of a sudden, like a thief in the night, I began to panic.

We were told I had a perfect blastocyst and a perfect womb environment at the time of transfer. So to get a negative result would feel pretty crapola as I don't know what else can be done. (Other than tubes removed to remove toxic fluid) which is my deepest darkest fear.

I don't have any symptoms but I have now come to realise that is partly due to having no estrogen in my body at present. At the start of IVF, the drugs shut down the pituity gland which would normally be responsible for producing FSH/LH which in turn orders the ovaries to produce oestrogen and then progesterone and then more estrogen etc. These are elevated during early pregnancy. With IVF the Dr's choose when to give you these hormones in the form of drugs. Now the HSG has left my body (which gave me sore boobs etc dues to its estrogen content) I am now only left with progesterone. My clinic doesn't give any more estrogen during the 2ww as apparantly only progesterone is needed to support any pregnancy.

So that could explain the lack of some symptoms (assuming I have understood all this correctly). And the sympytoms I have had which are little flipping sensations in the womb and mild cramping for half hour on 9 dpo is likely due to the progesterone working on the womb lining. So these can not be attributed to pregnancy.

It feels a bit like no mans land. I am trying to help myself to come to tems with a very possible BFN. I am trying to listen to what my instincts are telling me to protect myself a little. But equally I know it still too early to call. Finding it all very tough again. Going bananas actually.

Thanks for listening, really helps!!

Hi sarlat. Hang in there. Only two days to wait! You can do it, and you do know some cycles fail, some cycles succeed, but you do have a freezer full of blasto-siblings, for a second child, I hope.

Mine is indeed an iui cycle, 12dpiui today. No drugs after iui (and as my LH surge was early this time, no trigger shot either). So everything I can imagine feeling is my body's doing And it is doing it's best to make me wonder. No clear pg-symptoms sadly - big boobs, but I always have them in the second half of my cycle, they do this dramatic deflation upon AF arrival. And let's politely say my digestive system is being a little different. Normally the second half of the cycle is a complete standstill in that department, but not now. However, that could be due to lots of things, coming back from hols and going on a loads of veg and running again regime should speed stuff up. Also, I thought stoppage as a positive sign... Anyhow, my LF is always 13days, so AF is due on Thursday, blood test the next morning if the witch did not show.

Lovely 10+ers have a great meet today. Jealous, but definitely stuck too far away. So would appreciate a blow-by-blow report of tonight!!

frannie I'm not surprised the emotions overtook you at IUI. I can't help laying there in a hospital gown while someone shines a headlamp up my woowoo thinking "this isn't how it is meant to be"... It's difficult to hold it together frankly.

Gin you dealt very well with the nosey wedding guests.

sarlat I can imagine that this is a particularly tense 2ww. Hang on in there!

Afternoon all,
very quickly to say, hang on in there Sarlat Not long to go now. Lemon has some very wise words for you above.
Frannie sorry about the crying. Hope you feel better. Looking forward to meeting you later.
Lemon hoping that you might be the first BFP on the lucky #7 thread :)
Gin don't worry about being moody later, I think all of us understand and you will be in fine company. You can have some anyway, so all will be well :)

Well, looky looky what I came across this morning www.nice.org.uk/nicemedia/live/12157/59280/59280.pdf I haven't had a chance to read, just trying to get a few bits and bobs done whilst I was stuck on hold manically googling whilst avoiding real work

Anyway, cannot wait to meet some of you later. Soooo looking forward to le grand reveal. It will be weird seeing you all in person and knowing real names. I'm not sure I will be able to handle real names and may have to call you by mumsnet names. Although, I'm not sure how I feel about being called princess in RL. Now I'm sort of wishing I had chosen a more sophisticated name....sigh. That's me for today. Planning to get away pronto so need to get my heap of stuff done :)

Ooh lemons, one of my first symptoms at exactly the same stage as you was a dodgy, runny tummy, I definitely didn't have the blocked up feeling. God I hope it's your month! And everyone else of course, especially you sarlat, fingers crossed.

Have a really great time today I'm sad not to be there. I'd love to meet you guys sometime, if you wouldn't mind me coming I'd do my best to get to any future meet ups.

Hello people on this exciting 10+ day. I'm gutted I can't be with you and second that we'd love one of you to post is an update. I will be drinking a glass of wine elderflower cordial at 6.30 in your honour. Other 10 plussers I think you should join me

lemon I so hope your kitty endorsed trots (!) are heralding in some exciting news. We are due a bfp on this thread. Same sarlet I can only imagine how long this tww is. I will need sedating when it's my turn. 11dpo is too early so sit on your fingers and we are all wishing you all the very very best. kitty lovely to see you here, how is it 12 weeks already?! Although I'm sure it's felt like 12 months from your end.

pout and mrst sorry about the ttc dreads. I think of it like the shrinks from the Twits. I might call it that from now on. They do strike without warning sometimes. I hope the clouds have shifted.

princess I read the whole thing. IUI is no longer recommended and this pisses me off. You can bet pcts take note of nice guidelines that way.

euro sorry IUI didnt do the trick. I wish you all the best with the next steps, I know how hard it must feel. But, you will find out more and we will cheer you on every step of the way.

frannie when I was waiting for my lap in december the anaesthetist asked me if I was ok and I sobbed like a baby! I didn't see it coming at all. But it's so emotional this business. Good luck with it.

I am currently back home after having to go back to hospital yesterday. The bleeding was a hematoma. The gp was worried about it on fri, rang the hosp and they told her to check it for me on Monday. Well, it popped yesterday and by god did it bleed! I waddled to the doctors withs sanitary towel in my skirt and she pressed on it which was a mistake. So it was straight back the the wretched ward I was on for a tedious wait of observations. On the plus side I no longer have a purple sausage on my tummy and can walk again quite freely (with panty liner stomach as it's still bleeding). Amongst all of this I am informed that I am really quite anemic and have been since October. This is news to me!!! It's all flagged up in red on my medical notes. So, the spate of palpitiations and extreme tiredness, scant periods etc all make sense now. Why I'm anemic less so. Will be having fortnightly monitoring for a while. I refuse to take iron supplements as my tummy is too delicate so have bout some digestion friendly stuff online. Nice to know my blood building acu and diet have worked then! This surely can't help in the ttc stakes. Also, my period is now officially missing in action and the hospital want me to do a poas on Friday to rule out eptopic after surgery. That is RIDICULOUS. would you?

Enjoy your drinks. And post, please!

wine - a hemotoma! Bloody hell, you haven't have had a horrible time of it. Massive commiserations. I can't believe that you're anemic too, the knocks just keep coming! That is totally and utterly shit, I really do feel for you, and I cannot believe that you haven't been told about this earlier if it was on your notes. Grrrrr! . And how incredibly stressful about a possible ectopic. Aaaargh!

lemons I so hope this is your month! I will be thinking of you on Friday when you get your blood test. kitty's experience is encouraging (if having the runs is ever an encouraging state of affairs)

sarlat hold tight - you just need to get through the next couple of days. I can't begin to imagine how hard and stressful this wait is for you, and I'm fervently hoping that this will have worked. But if it doesn't, lemon has put it better than I could.

princess I will set up a coconut water drinking date with Mr Princess and Jack (the imaginatively-named Jack Russell terrier)! I am super impressed about all the home renovations you've been doing - I bet your place will look stunning once you've finished!

gin well done on the wedding guest grandparent comeback - I can never think of anything to say in those situations - and sorry to hear that you're feeling rotten. Sympathies!

buzzy Have an amazing holiday! Looking forward to hearing all about it when you get back. I hope that admiring hunky Italians eating yummy Italian food is a good distraction!

mrstolis really sorry to hear you've been feeling low, and good luck with the HSG. I hope they get it booked asap so you don't have to wait too long.

pout I really am so sorry to hear about your meltdown. Seeing sunny families having barbecues makes me sad too. Thinking of you, and hoping that you're feeling a little better today.

euro so sorry that the IUI didn't work. Onwards and upwards with the IVF, although I wish that you didn't have to go through it.

joyce my commiserations on the sunburn. And grrr about the fecund yet unhealthy colleagues.

artemis sorry that AF has arrived - I was really hoping that the kippers would not be required. Are you going to do another round of Clomid this month? Are they monitoring you? Sorry, you probably already said somewhere in the thread!

frannie :( sorry that you cried. Poor you. This is the crappiest thing to have to deal with, and as others have said, it's probably good to let it out. I hope you are feeling ok today. Tail feather strokes to you.

waves to beryl, mrsden, teu and others that I've missed

Well I enormously :( and that you guys are all going to meet each other today! I can't wait to hear about it. I'm off this afternoon for a five-day poetry retreat (my secret hobby) in rural Virginia with about 20 strangers, so will be out of action until Sunday, but am hugely looking forward to reading the catch up posts afterwards! All is well here, I am still dutifully taking my progesterone to induce a period ahead of clomid cycle number 4, and feeling fairly chipper. I had a spate of barbecues at the weekend, but I firmly ignored all the little kids running about and endeavoured to concentrate my attentions on drinking two absolutely huge and delicious frozen blueberry daiquiris made by my MIL instead. :)

Sorry wine - that was meant to be 'haven't half' not 'haven't have'!

Thanks critter it's all been a bit epic! Hopefully things will settle down soon. You made me about the daiquiris. Enjoy the retreat, I bet that's a very cathartic hobby.

I'm sorry I missed a few people out earlier and I don't like doing that. My memory is shocking right now. Feeble wave to gin, Joyce, mrsd, artemis and anyone else I left out!

Mr W has just popped out to get husband treat extra special wine. Lately I can make a bottle last 10 days (its not as ace by the end) which I'm pretty chuffed about. We are having a month of abstinence mid June to July just for laugh not with sperms or eggs in mind or anything like that so I will be toasting you online shortly. Someone else must surely come and join me?!

Oh and critter, I don't think there is a chance in one billion that I'm pregnant. We shagged with no intent on cd12 and I had the op on cd16. I don't think any embryo could possibly survive a jet wash and I hadn't shown any signs of ov. Oh well it will be a chance to see my mate One Line

The has arrived. Rumour has it it's rich in iron. Not drinking it yet though!

wine I am right here with you! No because thanks to the pesky time difference, it is only lunchtime here and I'm sneakily posting at work should have brought a hip flask - but I do have a and two bags of crisps! It's a party!

Yay! I'm sipping on a very nice New Zealand Chardonnay. Give us one of your crisps!

Cheers to all 10 plussers in the capital and across the globe. We are amazing and strong and lovely.