Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake overindulgence

[WhyAlwaysBoris]

Continuation of the last thread.

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your metalling moments. All welcome so come on in and get settled into the plush sofas!

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So settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

brilliant news midge so pleased for you!

I've left work on a half day so back to metaling at home, got acu in a bit. Will see if she can do anything for the metals

Good for you and your two fingers to yourself Tits sometimes we need to feel the fear and do it anyway or some such twaddle. You have done the right thing - f it!

Thanks Manda DH so far is fine (phew) and DD is just a bit pale but keeping things down. Obviously just me and my dodgy immune system. Bleeding is settling - despite having an internal and dildo cam to check my cervix. Take this as a good sign.

Sending Jaffa all the positive vibes in the world for this afternoon. Sure it helped for me this morning so here's hoping for a double whammy. This baby making business is hard hard hard.

I withdraw the licks - Manda is right - my germy licks should not be welcome to you TTC and pregnant ladies - just asking for trouble.

So relieved to hear of your wriggly bean midge that's great, hold on to that hope :)

Thinking of you jaffa :) x

Saw the midwife today, she's calmed me down and reasured me a lot re.aches and cramps. Scan booked for 30th May which is brilliant as I desperatly wanted it before my old due date and half term. Feeling positive but also very scared of the scan.

Not great really. My bloods are really bad. The physical markers are good, but my result has been given as 1 in 15 this time.

So, I had CVS, which went well. Baby's heartbeat seen after test, so low risk of mc afterwards. Results back next week, Weds or Thurs.

Darn the bank holiday delaying the result a bit... although I suppose they may call you sooner with initial results (the full screen takes a while longer, doesn't it, as they have to culture the cells).

Easy for me to say, but I feel good that your markers were good - not one soft marker for concern?

What did you measure today? Their machines seem a world away from the ones in the nhs, so much more detail.

I wonder if this pregnancy followed on immediately from a loss is making any difference at all to your bloods. I'm guessing if bloods are bad that you have high hcg and low papp-a? DId you have pre-eclampsia with your last term pregnancy?

Forgive all my questions and feel free to ignore if you just wanna curl up and employ denial for a few days... Just... y'know. If you wanna talk, I'm here.

So sorry the wait goes on jaffa. Thinking of you and hoping that the wait doesn't transcend into dog days. Distraction techniques are the order of the day.

Sorry you're still in limbo jaffa x

Oh midget I read through the whole thing and my heart was in my mouth but I'm so glad everything looks okay for you - so so pleased. Rest up and I hope you, mini-midge and DD feel better soon.

jaffa :( It's not fair that you have more worry but wonderful you are being seen so quickly and at such a knowledgeable place, fingers crossed they can put your mind at rest.

tits it depends if stuff bothers you. It doesn't bother me, it's for a future baby, and I reckon I'll keep going until I get one. So I'd make or buy whatever. But if you think it would upset you, perhaps not. I don't think there's a right answer.

As for me I'm all scanned-up and nearly 22 weeks with a healthy kicking baby girl, as far as can be detected. It is astonishing really. We've even talked names for the first time tonight when I realised she only needs to stay in there 16 more days and she'd need a birth certificate even if bad things happened. My next scan is at 25 weeks and that'll be the last dildocam, after that it would switch to growth scans making sure the placenta is staying attached and doing as it should.

Manda, my Papp-a is low, and hcg high. Also, the NT is a bit high at somewhere between 2.5 and 2.9. I haven't had pre-eclampsia. There is no relation to conceiving after mc.

I just feel so unlucky. It is as though someone has found a book of reproductive problems and I am working through them one by one. Miscarrying at 17 weeks was not enough, i had to have a second mc straight after, then this torment. I know there are few of the big ones left that I have not experienced, but feel sure I'll get to try them out if I keep this up long enough. And I am not sure I can. I am almost unhinged by it all. I have a DD that I have to care for, and I can't even be in people's company right now. The only time I am ok is when I sit and read. I just want to be someone else. I hate the bank holiday for drawing it out. And I do not have any faith in anything any more, certainly not luck. I will be the one in 15. I think the odds of me having what has happened already are pretty slim, so one in 15 seems very likely from where I am sitting.

I am also wracked with indecision about what I will do if it is the case. In theory, I thought I would go-ahead regardless. The reality is very different.

I can only imagine what a difficult & miserble time this is for you jaffa. FWIW I think you've had your share of bad luck and will be fine. You don't need to decide anything today so try not to worry about that, have faith in yourself, you'll make the right decision for you when and if you need to. x

Oh Jaffa I wish I could teleport you till next week, shit always happens when you can't get the answers quick enough. Who can blame you for thinking the odds mean nothing. I think most of us who have been through a lot of losses would always go back to that place, it's our default setting. I so wish there was something I could do or say, but only time will tell. But we are all thinking of you.

Well DD and I are as sick as dogs. The Vomit has turned to d&v (sorry way tmi). I am dehydrated and demented at the effect on the bean on top of all the bleeding. And Jaffa I know what you mean about thinking you will be the 1. The baby being ok yesterday is not stopping me being demented today. Not really been feeling movements today may have to drown it in lucozade and jump up and down. If this keeps up may have to go back in and beg for IV fluids. Lost all the weight I'd put on, this is bad as already was a little on the low BMI side. Realistically I know bugs don't damage babies but I keep thinking I will be the one where it does. And I already had ketones after day 1, which can't be good. A lot of my miscarriages have started with d&v so I can't get my mind to let go of the connection. This bug needs to bugger off out my house so I can retain some sanity and hopefully some perspective. So in summary not as full metal as yesterday but I would describe myself as half metal. Really don't know what I would do without all you as worried my DH sick yesterday and not sure I can see him looking that freaked out again(especially as he was supposed to be going to the cup final today). I'm a crazy, worn down, germy full metaller.

midget what a relief

Jaffa thinking of you. Try and keep busy to make the days go a bit faster - easier said than done, I know.

Golly I sound self indulgent in comparison to Jaffa. Ignore my Pity party, the norovirus has possessed my mind as well as my body.

Jaffa, so sorry you're still in limbo, I wish I could fast-forward time for you to when you get the test results. And still fingers crossed that they're good, of course.

Afternoon ladies - paltry offering of a pot of tea and oozy hot crumpets and jam.

May I join you?? ....I've been stalking following you ladies for awhile now and you have given me many laughs and some hope things can turn around for me.

After ttc for 4yrs I found myself (days off starting IVF drugs) pregnant naturally with twins, had a 6wk scan all was fine and dandy and at 12wks the most horrid mmc shock. I had the mmc medically managed and am now in my first period's 2ww - so with fingers and toes crossed I wanted to jump onto the thread as I seem to be metalling with the what ifs already!

Jaffa - I'm so so sorry that you have been dealt this hugely unfair hand, as you say as if 2 mc's aren't enough to contend with, I just so hope that the results this week give you more answers.

Midge - Congrats on the scan but I hope you're not exhausted with the hideous bug you've got!

Midge, to quote Ron Weasley, 'Are you mental!'

You are not having a pity party- you are pregnant, ill, have ill child, history of miscarriage and you were bleeding in a&e yesterday. If you are not allowed to feel sorry for yourself, no-one is! I am so glad you had good news yesterday, but completely get you being freaked out. It is hard sometimes, posting on here, but I do it because although kind and sympathetic people in RL are lovely, and can relate to the grief, I don't think anyone can quite understand the head-fuckery involved unless they have lived through it themselves.

I am feeling slightly more measured, I think I have exhausted my own rage against the world for today. And one day nearer to an answer.

Thank you all for your loveliness. It has really helped. X

Polka another one whose been through a whirlwind of highs and lows. Sorry you've found yourself here, but welcome.

Jaffa amen to the 'head fuckery* sister. Glad you've had a good rage, it does the power of good sometimes. Thanks for your kind words.

Starting to feel slightly human and DD is looking less like she will need a trip to a&e as managing to keep down a bit of fluid at last. She looks awful but got a little spark so hoping we are over the worst. Bleeding seems to be calming down, life is retaining slightly more perspective.

midge We all have a 'right' to our feelings and as jaffa points out, you're more than qualified to worry/metal with the best of 'em... although, your baby is fine! So sorry you and DD are so poorly though - norovirus really is the pits. Both DS2 and I had it back to back and then DD after us a couple of months back.

jaffa thread here on MN where a few women seemed to have results similar to yours... yet only one has a semi-bad outcome

I know that doesn't automatically mean you're ok, but it bodes well, I think. Especially with your soft markers being ok. Are you ok? Physically, I mean? No crampy-crampy?

Cross posted... that'll teach me to not refresh before typing away.

Welcome, polka

and, wait a minute. leedy? Bacon jam? What in the world?!

BACON JAM: edible-ireland.com/2011/06/10/ed-hicks-bacon-jam/

It is as if designed for pregnant ladies. Though possibly not as good as bacon-maple-apple doughnuts.

leedy To quote midge quoting Ronald Weasley... Are you mental?!

FFS, to quote jaffa quoting the ginger one*

I was given some bacon jam. Thought it sounded lovely but it was in fact just weird fatty jam. Although I wasn't pregnant then.