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The BESH Eurovision Song Contest eva

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eurochick · 13/04/2012 13:56

Asseyez-vous mes amies and ready yourselves for the BESH Eurovision contest ever. Get ready with your Central European fashion, transvestites and inability to sing anything in tune. Get ready to rip your skirts off and leave your other halves no option but to make their mind up (do you see what I did there?) to get down to some swi and do your best not to think of Terry Wogan at any point in the proceedings. Finally, get ready to yell ?nul points? at the evil Droid should it dare to make an appearance.

Newbies, approach in high euro-camp mode, find and complete the BESHtionnaire to let us judge whether you are cynical and menkul enough to join us.

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Northey · 23/04/2012 10:08

Good luck, btw!

HaveALittleFaithBaby · 23/04/2012 10:08

Oh, no he didn't go in the end lem. To be honest, I think he'd have struggled because his neck and head were bad Friday anyway. We sold them to my sister's work colleagues, they said they were sorry we couldn't make it but they were very grateful for the tickets and hasn't laughed so much in years. So at least they didn't go to waste.
So lots of thumb twiddling today then? Maybe we should play a game? Hmm
I managed to shower and dress. I had to get out of bed - I'd decided to strip it, you know when it's due and once you've decided it needs doing, you think it smells a bit? So now I'm laid on the unmade bed gearing up for the next step!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 23/04/2012 10:12

Apologies for the oversharing, and sorry you are suffering too norf.

Pleased some people enjoyed the tickets, even if they were not the right ones (and that you got some money for it). Good luck with bed-changing, I rarely do that, as SB is way taller, and I am convinced that is an advantage, he is our designated bedmaker... I am the smelling-police though and I totally know what you mean, faith.

I'm off now - good luck norf if I don't catch you before your appointment!

HaveALittleFaithBaby · 23/04/2012 10:14

Good luck lem!
Sympathies for the rumbly tumblies, I have ibs so I understand!
I'd go norf but back a brolly...

Northey · 23/04/2012 13:17

I wimped out, fortunately, as the heavens opened about 30 mins later.

Just getting dressed in my lightest clothes, in case they freakishly decide to weigh me. A Random Thought - what if they offer me something other than Clomid? I hadn't even considered that, but of course they threw europa totally with suggesting ivf. What should I do if they suggest it for me? Would I rather have Clomid? I can't imagine ivf being very easy to manage whilst living somewhere else and AMNH having a job it's not easy to take leave from anyway... Gulp.

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eurochick · 23/04/2012 13:41

I guess it depends how you feel about it. My experience taught me that however much I want a baby, I need to ramp up the treatment gradually. For me this has been agnus castus and supplements, Letrozole, IUI. I think at the end of a couple of IUI cycles I might be ready. I wasn't at all when I was referred for it back in November. But I think I might be unusual. I think most people just want to get to whatever gives them the best chance asap.

If Clomid can get you ovulating regularly (I think you have long cycles?), it is a lot less invasive than IVF.

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HaveALittleFaithBaby · 23/04/2012 14:26

I think if I was in your position personally, I'd plump for the clomid first - I think euro is right. The drilling has helped a bit but not made you ovulate as early on as you/they'd hoped. Unless they give you good reason for not giving you the clomid that it. It would be drastic to offer you ivf straight off I think? You could always say you need some time to think about it and discuss it with AMNH, that's fair!

Northey · 23/04/2012 14:32

I agree. I think as long as there is an identifiable problem (that I have really long irregular cycles and my ovaries could prob do with a kick up the arse) we should try to work on that. Rather than going nuclear, so to speak. On way to hospital now, mentally counting cycle days...

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eurochick · 23/04/2012 14:46

The difficulty I found with my NHS clinic was that I never once saw the consultant I was supposedly under, only her underlings. This meant that decisions were taken about my case at the meetings that took place when I wasn't there. Of course, it's normal that teams discuss cases, but I felt that there was never really any opportunity to discuss things because the decision had already been made before we walked through the door 9for an appointment that would usually only last a few mins). A similar thing happens with my private consultant because he has his own ideas about how to run things and has often prepared my prescription before my appointment, but at least I can have a dialogue with the decision-maker in that circumstance.

Good luck, norfy.

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Northey · 23/04/2012 15:15

I've had that too, euro. I saw my consultant for my first appointment and since then have had underlings only, which I didn't actually mind until the imbecile last time (am reading through my file, and hae just come to the letter she wrote, which has made me massively ragey all over again). And your point that decisions have actually already been made in an earlier case meeting have made me really ready for battle. If I'm only being notified of a decision, why the fuck drag me in at all. They could email me the conclusions, quite frankly. So if I am here I am damned well taking a part in the decision-making.

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eurochick · 23/04/2012 15:21

I quite agree. A face to face meeting becomes irrelevant if there is no discussion. I felt that my last appointment was a waste of time. They could have just written to me to say my scan and HSG were clear, KFZK's looked fine and they had referred me for IVF, rather than having both of us take a morning off work to hear that at a 5 minute appointment.

You go kick some bottom!

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Northey · 23/04/2012 16:55

An hour and a quarter after my appointment was due to take place, I am still sitting in the waiting room. I am now the only person here. I can't decide if this has made me more ass-kicky, or has sapped all my life force.

CaveMum · 23/04/2012 17:01

Ass-kicky norf, get ass-kicky!

Northey · 23/04/2012 17:05

Just ARGH! What if they have forgotten me? How can this be taking so long?

CaveMum · 23/04/2012 17:16

Try whistling/singing to see if they notice you Grin

Failing that, go kick some ass!

Northey · 23/04/2012 17:18

I could cry with frustration. Just stuck in this bloody room with a video on loop about sodding pregnancy and babies.

CaveMum · 23/04/2012 17:42

Is there a receptionist you can complain to? This really is not on.

sinkingflameofhilarity · 23/04/2012 17:59

Bloody hell Norf. You have now been in, right?

Seriously though, some staff are a little, shall I say, shite. Make sure the clark gave your notes to the nurse, who've put them in the right pile etc. it might just be a usual over subscribed nhs clinic.

Have an Angry to get you feisty-ly aggressive again.

Northey · 23/04/2012 18:01

Just out. Need to have a massive cry gather my thoughts then will update.

Wonder how lemon got on.

sinkingflameofhilarity · 23/04/2012 18:12

Aw norf

Have a cheeky arm squeeze. (and a proper hug while I'm at it. Feel free to snot down my back, I'm beyond any embarrassment these days...)

sinkingflameofhilarity · 23/04/2012 18:13

Should we have unleashed the Dragon on them

Ok... I just wanted to use the emoticon.

But really, do you want a BESH posse round to sort the clinic oot?

CaveMum · 23/04/2012 18:29

Sorry, but we have dragons???????!!!!!!

Dragon Dragon Dragon Dragon Dragon Dragon

Norf, come back when you are ready and we'll be waiting with gin.

HaveALittleFaithBaby · 23/04/2012 18:32

I'm sorry you've had a crap experience Norf, regardless of what they said :(
We are here for you when you're ready.
Unleash the fury Dragon

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eurochick · 23/04/2012 18:38

ROAR Dragon

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Northey · 23/04/2012 19:34

Well. I suppose it's not all bad. I was just a bit overwrought after 2 hours of waiting and a slightly combative meeting.

Good news is, I have a prescription for Clomid (YAAAAAY). And that makes me very happy. It was just the other stuff that knocked me a bit.

  1. if this fails I will never qualify for NHS IVF, as they will count infertility from point of last conception, rather than point of starting fruitless sechsing. And by the end of three years from ectopic, I will be over the age limit.

  2. they want to do follicle tracking, which will be v hard to arrange going back and forth from Wales to England, what with the need to be in Wales for sechsing, and England for scanning.

  3. consultant wants me to do the AMH for ovarian reserves thing, as a private patient, as it's not available on NHS.

  4. she was snitty with me for prodding her to clarify the ivf situation, saying she wanted to spend time on clinical matters, not explaining Trust IVF provision policy. Which is grossly unfair - as she could have answered my question in 15 seconds, ad she was the one who blethered on for ages, answering questions I hasn't asked and had no desire to ask.

  5. if Clomid doesn't work, her basic plan is just to try Clomid for longer...

Sorry. Massive stressy dither from me now

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