Hop aboard the Santa sleigh for a festive baby (late Dec /early Jan)

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Jingle jingle....anybody joining me? I figure this HAS to be my month if I'm starting the thread :o

Thanks for the welcome. Good luck to all those testing soon. I'll be restraining myself from buying any sticks to pee on until next weekend... It's going to be a long week!

Hello Chair Great name! Just wanted to say that we went to SA when I was about 26 weeks pg - eek! Are you doing safari or anything? Might just want to consider going to non-malarial zones if you are, as you won't be able to take the meds if you're pregnant.

Hi Roxy pre-seed worked for us first time around! So fingers crossed for you!

Lime glad to hear your sons tests went well. FX for good results!

Pip and Wigg I say just go and enjoy. There's no telling if you are or if you aren't at this point and a few drinks can't really hurt the baby at this early stage.

Treats Sorry you've had a bad day emotional is a good sign!

1dpo here! :) Of course won't be completely confirmed that I ov'd until I have three high temps, but this morning's temp was definitely in my post o range. Unfortunately we didn't get to DTD last night... but did the two nights before. So hopefully that's enough. ACtually looking back on my charts, with DS we didn't DTD on the day of OV, just the day before.

Thanks last.

We're off to Jo'burg,I don't think we'll safari, but will think carefully about where we travel to while we're there to avoid malaria (not a bad thing to aim for what ever your TTC status I guess!)

limeleaflizard i still test early but my excuse is i'm using those super cheap papery sticks so not wasting much money. I don't get upset at an early negative as i know it may be false, i suppose i read some women saying it was all over because they tested negative at 10 or 11 DPO when testing that early isn't reliable. I just hope i'll be a lucky person who gets a very early positive. Bit silly really as last years pregnancy i got a faint positive on 13DPO , doubt anything would have have shown the day before - this was in days of buying supermarket tests- BTW ASDA do a great own brand one.

I think it might be game over for me.
Red spotting with small clots.

I know it's not over until AF sings but I think it's close.

Can't believe it!! 8DPO and AF has started.......

Had a bit of spotting last night but it didn't feel like period bleeding. Figured I'd hang on until my morning temp to see whether it was actually AF or implantation bleed. Trouble was, my temp wasn't conclusive - it was a tenth above the coverline, and only just below yesterday's. As today's gone on, however, I don't think there's much doubt. I've had some very grim pains and continued bleeding. It's not been heavy - not the like the first days of my last few periods - but it's been consistent.

So that's it - no Christmas baby for me. No 2012 baby for me either...... And clearly something's not right - even if DH and I had managed to fertilise an egg, it could never have implanted with a luteal phase of only 8 days.

At least I've kick started things with the GP - I'll go in on Monday and get my Day 3 bloods done and take it from there. DH (bless him) has said that he's happy to have his tests done too, but I think it clear that there's a fairly significant hormone malfunction going on here. On the bright side, that ought to be a fairly easy thing to fix. I know it's quite easy to take progesterone to sort out luteal phase issues.

lbot - thought of you today as I loaded up my Sainsbury's trolley with Tampax........

Pipbin - sharing your pain here, but hanging onto a shred of hope for you.

blackcats - sorry I can't be your poas buddy now, but I've got fx.

Oh no, Pipbin and Treats, so sorry to hear it isn't looking good, although I am holding out hope for you both.

Treats if AF does come overnight at least you have the comfort of knowing you've already kicked off the process with the doctor and can look forward to the bloods on Monday to find out what is going on with your lp.

BTW, thinking of you stocking up in Sainsbos, do any of you use a Mooncup? I heard about it on MN, bought one, and have never looked back. It is brilliant - so much easier, more comfortable, cheaper over time, and more environmentally friendly than sanitary products.
I really have now used my last box of tampons!

blackcats thanks for the Asda tests tip - will check out next time I am there.

I have a throbbing headache. Please can I have a night off dtd tonight?! It is cd10 so peak is not until early next week anyways.

lime I love my Mooncup. I've been using mine for 10 years now. I've just had to buy a new one as age has meant I needed the bigger size!

Well in the Pipbin house AF seems to have stayed away, although poas shows a BFN.

So sorry pipbin and treats -good luck with the doctor treats.

I feel grim - have been struck with a sinus infection, and because of irrational optimism that this is my month I can't take the good drugs...

treats so sorry...I don't know your full story, was this a one off? I had weird cycles after my ERPC.
I think you're doing the right thing is seeing your GP asap though. Luteal phase defect can be improved by various mean, i've also heard many women swear by B vitamins- B6 i think is the one but defo see your GP to get an idea of what your hormones are doing. Good luck.

I've been taking vitamin b6 to try and stop my spotting. You need to take 100mg of it with a vitamin b complex. Try Holland and Barrats vitamin b 50. It's 50mg of all the b vitamins.

Wow Pipbin you are the mooncup pro! Fx AF continues to stay away.

Chair hope you feel better soon. You could take paracetamol at least?

We're hoping to get out in the garden today - lots to do. Hope the weather stays fine for a change!

Hello girls,

sorry for the absence. Not much to report here but this morning I had a temp spike, which is a bit early - CD11 here - and a positive OPK. Which is now fading out gradually

OPK yesterday was around lunchtime and getting darker. I don't know if I missed it by not doing it at bedtime as usual but we were out all night. Or maybe it's not a proper positive and it's still not happened.

hmmm. I am beginning to resent OPKs! Hope everyone is doing Ok. Will catch up later x

How weird is this? My temp went UP this morning - second highest temp of the cycle (or last cycle I should say......) Can't explain it. AF having the time of her life with me today - really can't pretend that it's anything else.

Lime and Pipbin - I've been thinking about alternatives to tampons, actually. They (literally) don't seem to touch the sides with me anymore. I have heard the Mooncup discussed extensively on here and wonder if now is the time to check it out. It's sort of obvious that tampons would become less effective after one or two pregnancies, which is maybe why the Mooncup is so popular amongst mothers

blackcats - thanks for your message. I had a baby five months ago but he died in my arms at six hours old. So, it's really not surprising that my hormones are all over the place. I didn't waste time seeing my GP because I don't want the stress of thinking I can't conceive to add to all my other woes.

Actually, AF has been less traumatic this time round. The last few times have felt as though I was losing another baby. But I've been a bit more chilled this weekend. Partly, I think, because it arrived so early that I hadn't had time to get my hopes up, but also because I was so invested in getting pregnant again straightaway. Now that 'straightaway' hasn't happened, I don't think it matters so much whether it's this month, or next month or six months time.

Treats I don't know what's up. Of course I dont' want to get your hopes up, but a high temp even when you're bleeding is a good sign. Here you go

Must be the month for wacky cycles. I took my temp twice this morning in succession. SEcond much higher than the first, which would've been below where the coverline will be. Already manipulating temps! But the weird thing is, I've started spotting today, which should be, if all my other signs are right, 2dpo. I had spotting right after what I thoguht was ovulation the past two months as well, though couldn't be sure because I wasn't temping and never got a postive OPK. In both instances AF arrived 10 days after I thought I ovulated, meaning the spotting actually did occur 2dpo (that is if my LP is still about 10 days) But it's strange to have spotting after ov, right? I know we should DTD tonight just in case, but I'm just so tired, and feeling really cranky, just can't manage it. I'm flying to New York with DS tomorrow and I just need to go to bed. I had given up on this month before we even started actually so I don't really have any preconceptions anyway. So Treats I completely understand what you say about if it hasn't happened straightaway then it really doesn't matter. I'm right there with you. Feeling a bit sad as friends are talking about having second babies and they all seemed to get PG in one cycle first time around, so think that they will second as well. We had trouble first time around, so where does that leave us this time

Treats The Mooncup does take a bit of getting used to but I would never go back to anything else. I started using it because I get toxic shock from tampons, but I would still use it even given the option.
I've never been pregnant but I have now bought a new one in the bigger size as I think the passage of time has changed things.

Treats you sound as though you're really balanced, all things considered! I was reading that temps during AF are often a bit erratic.

Mooncups are great! I wish I had one 20 years ago, thats all. Google to find their website for info, but you can buy them in Boots etc. I got mine on my local high st.

Lastbox, your friends may not get pg straight away 2nd time round. I know lots of couples who expected this to happen and it didn't, and they have a bigger age gap as a result. Equally, it could happen the other way.

Good luck to us all, interpreting quirks in our cycles!

lbot - I was 15 months ttc for the first and nine for the second. So it could well be quicker. Some of that was knowing a bit more about the process, and both times it happened 3 months after DH and I gave up drinking. So there's no need to think that it will take a long time with the second just because it did with the first. Don't get despondent - you have living proof that you can conceive and carry a healthy baby, so there's no reason why you shouldn't again!

Definitely going to look into a Mooncup. Even the supersize tampons can't get a purchase (tmi? you'd tell me, would you? )

Got my Day 3 bloods done today and a follow up appt with the GP next Tuesday. So, no time to feel sorry for myself. And temps are back down to a typical pre-ov level. I was wondering for a while if there was something else going on - AF so early, temps so high - but I don't think so now.

Pipbin - any news?

blackcats - did you test today?

Treats More spotting first thing, and some during my run, but after that nothing much.
I get the feeling that AF will show tomorrow. If she's not here by Thursday, I'm testing.

Lastbox I teach I girl who's older sister is just 11 months older. Discussing this with her mum she said that #1 took two years and they assumed the same would be true with #2!

Hi all,
treats so sorry for your loss, i didn't know, how utterly dreadful, i suppose it must be some comfort that you got to meet him and had a few hours together. I used to get upset after my miscarriage whenever anyone showed sympathy so i won't say more . I expect your emotions will be playing havoc with your hormones right now, hope the tests show things that can be easily sorted out or better still that nothing is wrong.

I didn't test, had an early start at work today so no time. Tomorrow though!

Do any of you get Ovulation Pain? What are the symptoms? I am wondering if that is what I have right now. Will google later.

treats don't worry about the tmi, that is why we have an anonymous forum!

That is interesting about the alcohol... I don't want to give up my though! Though I'll obv have to give it up if & when I do get pg anyway, so perhaps it doesn't hurt to start early. Don't fancy my chances persuading DH to give it up though. He gets all smug if he goes for a whole week without a beer .

blackcats I will have my FX for you tomorrow!

Well I've booked in for the nurse to weigh me to decide if my BMI is low enough to be referred to the fertility clinic.
Although I have lost about a stone recently I think I'll still be just over the limit. And all because I'm short! I'm a size 16 but at only 5'3" I'm classed as obese.

Well done on loosing a stone, pipbin, that is great. Hopefully if you are borderline and can show the amount that you've lost - i.e. how serious you are, she'll be optimistic about how much your clothes weigh! I've had up to 5lb deducted for clothes by the nurse during pg. Wish it were so easy to deduct in RL! If she says no, can you go back again when you've lost a bit more?

blackcats - you're so right - it really was a comfort to have held him and to have known him just for that short time. We try to take all the positives we can out of the situation and that definitely was one. Obviously it explains why my hormones are all over the place, but also why I'm being such a control freak about seeing my doctor and getting things checked out

Glad - in a way - that you were so busy today - you won't have had time to obsess about poas. I'll be thinking of you tomorrow......

LimeLeaf - strictly between you and me and the rest of Mumsnet I suspect that the no-alcohol tactic helped DH more than me - 3 months is the time it takes for new sperm to develop and I think the alcohol-free environment is what they needed. However, I don't think I could have asked him to stop drinking without making the same commitment myself. It was surprisingly easy once we'd started - especially as we were doing it together. We just stopped having beer and wine in the house. We occasionally ask each other 'permission' if we're going out with friends, but once you've cut back, you find it much easier to go without. It hasn't worked this time round for us, but I've clearly got ishoos that need sorting - I had very regular cycles both times before.

Pipbin - BMI is such a blunt instrument isn't it? I'm the same height as you, but a size 10 and even my BMI occasionally registers as overweight. Good luck with the nurse.

I'd get weighed in the nip if I thought it would do the job!
They will have my weight from a year ago on file as I was on the pill then and weighed every 6 months.
I've been running and doing Weight Watchers. To get the BMI correct I need to lose another 6 pounds in the next two weeks!
I'm hoping like you said Lime that they'll be sympathetic. I'd be OK if I was an inch taller!