The Rat Smacketeers will all get BFP's this month and we are Brooking No Argument!

[TheLittleFriend]

See a Rat. Smack it.

Sparks who said our cooking was actually edible

Good going on the veggies - it will CHANGE. YOUR. LIFE. (said in a John Torode stylee). Nothing is more satisfying than bringing your dinner in from the garden.

Smegs I'm so glad to hear news of your extra long tubey tubes. I can see a lovely healthy egg wafting its way down one of them and towards an equally healthy swimmer imminently.

Oh bean. I am so sad to see you go. But I hope the decision is the best one for your family in the long run and see you next month with your ironic bfp

scrambled good to hear your tubes are clear and that it wasn't too painful for you. Brooking furiously that you get a post hsg-bfp this month.

I am officially a wally. After my "I won't even touch a hpt until CD35" speech, I felt compelled to go and do the one in the bathroom cupboard. Which was a bfn. Which reminded me how shit it feels to get a bfn

Aw bean am so sorry to hear things are getting so bad, but please don't leave us. We are one for all, all for brookers. Many hugs to you my dear.

Sorry everyone is feeling down right now, this TTC lark is so difficult on us and our loved ones. But look at the rewards at the end, all those lucky PSEPP grads who now have their snugly bundles of joy. Come on ladies chins up and onwards we all go to our BFPs.

Ah, Little I'm sorry. It is so gutting isn't it.

Sparks how do you know we aren't the size of house We will be in approximately 9 months Well done on the veggies

Little - that's because your body is waiting for the arrival of your CBD to show you it in words. Your CBD which out of interest was posted this arvo.

What CD is it anyway Little?

Evening, hope you aren't all stoned on poppy seeds!

Sorry to hear about the down day in Brookers land, we WILL all get our lovely snuggly babies, I know it! I know from bitter experience how mundane and boring TTC can become, in fact I think I found it hardest earlier on in this process and apart from the odd down day now I am on the whole a lot more positive and determined at almost 3 years in (which is quite ridiculous really considering I only have half the equipment now too!) Bean I shall miss you greatly and I hope with all my heart that your story has a happy ending whatever happens.

Generic In answer to your questions the NK cell test is just a blood test which along with the consultation, follow-up and treatment plan came to about £700. I know this is one of the most expensive tests though so you could probably get all the RMC tests for £1000 or so. As the others have said though I would be inclined to see GP first to see what they can offer. I definitely think it helps to investigate, it felt like I was taking back some control as conceiving is most definitely outside of our control for the most part! The progesterone is not to do with the NK cells, I think it's just to help make sure I have a nice healthy womb lining for an embryo to burrow into, I know in America most women are given progesterone in early pregnancy.

I didn't mean that last post to sound quite like it did and I certainly don't think that you ladies will have a 3 year long process! I found it hardest to be in the middle ground of not conceiving in the first few months like everyone else seemed too but also not being in the TTC for years group either IYSWIM? Now I am officially in the long-term TTC (and needing medical help) I feel more at peace with it all I think? And I feel more blessed than ever for having lovely DS. Not sure I am explaining this very well at all, so I will sign off now and get my steroid filled, sleep deprived body to bed! TTFN x

And I meant to say earlier Bean I will miss you greatly, but do understand that after a while TTC can take such a toll on your whole life that it feels like it is swallowing you up. So I can understand that there comes a time when you must just decide to have a break from it. I know that this time last year I was doing an awful lot of soul searching about only having DS and not any more and I was beginning to come around to the idea. And the reason I'd given it so much thought was because I was beginning to worry about the amount of energy I was expending worrying about the whole TTC thing.

Then we got our BFP anyway (oooh, maybe I'd 'relaxed and it just happened?' ) but I think I do see where you're coming from.

In any event, I wish you the very best (and hope that you'll pop into visit and maybe come back when that ironic non-TTC BFP pops up?).

Take care my lovely xx

smegs - glad it was good news at the hospital today. Hope it wasn't one of those horrid gown with your bum poking out that I'm convinced are there purely for drs' amusement!

maybe - glad you are in the system. I understand why you might want to put it of but think definitely best to get things moving. Knowledge is power and by pure sod's law, it means you'll get a bfp ASAP and look like a fraudulent hypochondriac.

bean - I'm so sorry to hear that your thinking of leaving. I hope that you won't and even if you take a break from ttc, you'll still come and post. It just seems like such bloody hard work sometimes. Not helped by stories of people falling pregnant with quadruplets without even trying

imps - thank you very much for your promise of a special routine. If I make it to the scan date, I'll even join in myself! How many days left with the bastards your esteemed colleagues? Hope you've got a good break inbetween finishing and starting your new job.

secret - am v impressed with your BandQ raid!

little - shitballs re the bfp. I'm sorry.

Waves to barlett

I went to the docs today and all went well. He was very nice but looked about 15. We had an embarrassing 30 seconds at the beginning when he ushered me in to the surgery and we sat there, politely nodding and smiling at each other, while I waited for the doctor to arrive. I thought he was a student. Thankfully managed not to blurt that out. I had done a test this morning and had taken it with me so was then scrabbling round my bag to find it so that took another 30 further agonising seconds.

I've got to go and see the midwife in April and decide this week ( this week?!) where I want to have the baby.

He couldn't get the due date wheel thing to work at first but has estimated due date as 26 November. I have googled this about 792 times and get 25 November so will need to see what they say at the scan.

My paranoia is really rampant at the moment so was panicking this afternoon that I might be having an e topic pregnancy as my shoulder was killing me. Thankfully realised that my new bra was far too tight on one side - I was nearly in tears of relief when I worked it out.

Will just keep going one day at a time. Doctor has promised to refer me right away if I have another miscarriage. This is the longest I've made it so far so fingers crossed. One thing - I wondered if I should have asked him for a progesterone prescription. I haven't had any tests though so think I wouldn't have got it.

Bloomin' 'eck - I go and do some work for a few hours and you're all high on opium!

Bean I am so sorry you've decided to leave us. Like others have said, I love your posts - you are very wise and sensible (and a bit barmy) and you always have a kind/positive/amusing word, depending on the situation. I understand your decision but I hope you are just not not trying now ie giving up the supplements, acu, shag dictator etc and just reconnecting with your DP. Like Maybe said, I have a very strong feeling that you will get your DC2 and I hope you'll pop in and tell us when you get that ironic BFP.

Olives - wow! £1000 for the tests! We couldn't justify that but maybe I would feel differently in time. I think I am going to just carry on for a bit, but try not to think about it all so much. I do want a DC2 but I am preparing myself for the possibility that it won't happen.

Smegs I'm glad your HSG went OK and I hope an egg makes its way down your l-o-o-o-n-g tubes ready for next rat smacking cycle!

Little I am so sorry re the BFN. I am brooking that it was just too early.

Biscuits you are, as ever, the voice of reason.

Shiny glad you are GP registered now! One day at a time is the best way.

Hello everyone else Imps, Far, Pop, Whim, Sparks, Scarlett, Sweetie, Stasi, Beedle, Cupcakes and anyone else I've rudely forgotten.

I prescribe early nights all round and we will all feel better in the morning!

generic - sorry! I missed you before. Hope all well. That seems a good idea to keep going and wait and see. Can I also suggest booking a very inappropriate holiday for an ironic bfp. We are going to new York in April when I'll be 10 weeks pregnant (all going well). The doctor told me that weeks 10 - 12 are worst for sickness. Great!

Ooh, exciting shiny. I found that i was always sickest when I was tired, so try really hard to get enough sleep on your hols (probably not that easy in NY), and always have a packet of crackers in your handbag.

For the record, I had a slice of cake and am not stoned. In my misspent youth I tried taking codeine recreationally, and didn't really get on with it, so the bottle in the cupboard is safe for now.

whimsical - thank you! All going well, this will be our last ny trip for a while so want to make sure I enjoy it!

Also, is it ok if I keep hanging out here? I have put my name on a November thread but feel to "new" and scared to post there. Understand though if time to move on

Shiny, deffo stay put! There's also the PSEPP (Pee Stick Endorsed Pregnant Person) thread that the Smacketeers graduate on to. They're all lovely.

shiny, there is a lot of crossover between our two (and now three) rat smacking threads so you can stay here as long as you want!

A few years ago, I went to see my solicitor about completion for my new flat (pre DH). I'd just been dealing with her by email up to then, so was surprised when she was a woman in her late twenties (as was I). My first thought was, "Is she old enough to know what she is doing?" My second thought was, "This must be what my patients think about me when I pitch up to announce that I am the senior doctor on the ward tonight!"

whims, codeine recreationally?! I've had it when I had shingles, but didn't get any nice effects from it all. I did have morphine after an operation once, but don't remember that doing anything either.

Sweetie, thanks for the pep talk.

Little, it is clearly just too early for the BFP, but it is still rubbish to get that BFN.

Better get to sleep now. Coming down with a bad cold and scratched the car badly tonight (blaming it all on the cold). DH is being surprisingly sanguine about it all, bless him, but I am really annoyed with myself. Goodnight to everyone else - sweet dreams and sweet SWI!

bean I'm so sorry that you're leaving us, we will miss you. But I understand your reasons and I wish you and your family well :) and along with everyone else am hoping you'll be back soon to tell us of your ironic non-TTC BFP

maybe damn that pee-stick, but I'm still hoping you're one of those ladies that takes ages for the BFP to show even though you've been up-duffed all along (if you get what I mean)

Can't believe I missed biscuits and her snuggly newborn, I'll have to go over to the NBWB (non-brookers with babaies) thread for my cuddle perhaps I can tempt her over here again with and

bartlet hope you're feeling better this morning and I hope thta the bleeding stops soon so you can get back to rat-smacking

smegs yay to the successful HSG, I predict your BFP very soon

I'm trying to ignore the talk about poppy seeds as my mum has recently been on a hunt for black poppy seeds and claimed she couldn't get them in Tesco ( we eventually found some when she was here last). Now I'm slightly worried about why she wanted them - she said it was to put on cheesey nibbles but now I'm not so sure Are black ones more potent than white ones??

sparkle woohoo for your new planter thingy - we might be rubbish at making babaies here but at least we're good at baking and cooking and growing veg

Laters

I can spell babies I just can't type

Sits on shiny, you are not allowed to go anywhere d'ya here me fellow November person? I am also way too scared and too cynical to post on the November thread, they are all buying buggies and babygrows and I am shit scared for those who have started spotting etc etc

I am on progesterone shiny, you could always ask your GP for it?

pop is your scan coming up soon?

secret that is a pomme bear, there was a controversial thread about them I htink I while back but I can;t remember the details at all!

generic there are a couple of places on the nhs that test for NK Cells - Epsom and Liverpool I believe, are you near to either of those? In the meantime you could have all the other tests done on the NHS (thyroid, clotting issues, hormones etc). Best of luck with it!

waves to bean and hopes she is still lurking

shiny please stay says the 11 week preggo who still hangs around like a bad smell :o

I think this is a terrifically brave decision bean and it's obviously had a lot of thought and is what's best for you and your family... perhaps a period of not not trying is on the cards?

Scan on Tuesday far - did yours go ok considering you have a tilted uterus (iirc?) too? Apparently DSis (also tilted) had to have it done internally eek!

Also agree with the crap GPs. I had my blood tested for my hypothyroidism on week 5 - the lab did the TSH but refused to do the T4, all fine. Then had blood tested on week 10 - the lab did the T4 but no the TSH. GP says she "doesn't really know what to do" as they dont usually manage hypothyroid preggos, and I just have to wait for my obs appointment (at 16 weeks). So basically I'll have had my TSH tested on week 5 and week 16, when even the GP says it needs to be done every 6 weeks (and she had to bloody look that up). I'm not impressed (and I'm a bit at what would happen if my TSH wasn't relatively stable - at least it was unchanged on week 5 which is positive iyswim) but I think the only thing I can do is wait for my obs appt as instructed.

Oh pop that sounds terrible, does the midwife know about your thyroid? Can you go back to the GP with the guidelines and ask for both TSH and T4 to be re-tested, if she knows what box to tick, its a fairly simple process for her to print the blood test form where are these people trained!

I am brooking already for you scan :) Mine was internal and therefore fine. Although he did warn me we might end up seeing less but he seemed to be able to find what he was looking for! The consultant said you can end up measuring a week behind with a tilted uterus and so they may do it internally. Its totally fine if that is what you need, don;t worry, not uncomfortable at all.