The rat smacketeers are brooking no argument!! All for one BFP and one BFP for all!

[Imps7]

Smacket on, ladies...

generic, I was thinking that maybe I hadn't ov'd, and maybe that's why it's so light. Oh well, hopefully our body's are saving great egg's for this month

Evening Smacketeers,

My you lot have been busy while I've been working

First Cakes and Loopy fantastic news on the scans. Am so glad you got to see your little beans heartbeat Cake

Am loving the blueberry reference, however I now feel unable to eat the blueberry muffin I've been saving all day to eat at home in peace

Sweetie well done on getting the referral sorted. You will be getting your ironic BFP without a doubt.

Far how are you? Im putting all my brooking strength into getting you a BFP this month. Will be thinking of you and MrFar on your due date.

Maybe sorry work has been rubbish. Fingers crossed it can only get better.

Am loving the crazy names! I've got plenty to contribute to this due to my job. I've met a Denim, Ikea, Fox, Queen Elizabeth, Star, Princess. I could go on forever!

I've got a very strange surname and am always agonising over names.

Imps what happened to baby fedex? I thought that would make an awesome name for a boy

According to UCL I'm due AF in 4 days but according to CBFM im 4 dpo. I'm totally confused. My only symptom to date is that I don't have sore boobs for the first time ever post ovulation.

Bean are you due to confirm soon?

Evening all!

Great scan news Cakes and Loopy They are true brooking babies!

Can't believe your blueberry is 7 weeks already Pops What have you decided about the early scan?

I had my appt at The Miscarriage Clinic yesterday (not much thought went into the name of that place did it?) I was overwhelmingly disappointed Maybe I expected too much but I thought it would be less hurried than the NHS. I was very wrong, I got the distinct impression that time is money and it was a case of taking my history asap and getting me out ready to get the next one in! He was all expensive suit and I just didn't warm to him at all. I think I'm lucky to have an extremely lovely NHS consultant who bends over backwards to do everything he can and explain everything really thoroughly and he just has a really reassuring manner and a very old worn suit At the end of the day I just needed to get the tests done so I guess it doesn't matter whether I liked the guy or not! I really wasn't comfortable with the midwife's role being to take my credit card details either! I guess I felt uncomfortable with the whole private medicine thing, it really didn't feel right but needs must and all that! At least we got the opportunity to go off to the Natural History Museum with DS afterwards and he had a ball! It's all dinosaur talk in our house now!

I've just re-read my ramblings above, it really wasn't a very nice experience at all and it's really upset me Do you think I'm being silly?

I dont think your being silly at all Green
It's such an important thing to you having these investigations done and of course it's just routine to them. However it doesn't sound like they had any real empathy for your situation. I know there are lots of negatives about the NHS, but I hope that the majority of staff are sensitive to patients feelings.
There is nothing worse than feeling rushed in medical matters. It always makes me feel like I'm being a pain. And when your paying for it you should definitely feel your being taken seriously. Sorry I'm starting to ramble now. 3 twilight shifts followed by a long day have near killed my brain

Thanks Cupcakes That run of shifts is not pleasant at all - hope you've got your feet up with a nice or that you're all tucked up in bed now! x

Ooh - -get some rest cupcakes; sounds exhausting. It looks like you are next confirm btw Cup. I'm just popping the egg on cd11 so a way behind you I do believe.

They are buggers Green - it IS all about dosh. Thank goodness you have a fantastic NHS consultant. Try not to be disheartened and I hope the test results are helpful.

Great scan news x2.

@ Fedex.

Waves at brookers!!!

Oh no green that sounds terrible, the midwife taking the credit card? That is awful. I must say the consultant I went to see sends an invoice about 2 weeks later and only AFTER the letter summarising the appointment and next steps, he is more of a gent (!) But as you say, all you need to do is get those test results and then you can be treated by your lovely consultant :)

thanks cupcakes am feeling a bit more philosophical today and even managed to read a birth announcment email today without crying so that is progress! What is UCL? I would definitely go with the CBFM, I have always found it pretty accurate.

I am either 8/9 or 10dpo depending on when I ovulated after peak reading, did a FR this morning just in case I am 10 dpo but BFN. Hmmmm will keep testing every morning just in case until AFdoes not arrive.

I have had some terribly sad news this am that a friend of mine has MC for the 4th time, this time at 11weeks which was the furthest she had got and she was on the NK treatment. My heart is breaking for her, she has been at this for 2 yrs, no DC. Life can be so unfair. We are having a girls night out to drown our sorrows next week :(

Waves at everyone else, is anyone else testing soon?

Oh and generic and little my first AF after my chemical in September was super light and every now and again and I get a light one. I freaked about it until I had my fanjoly scans which confirmed lining was getting to the required 8mm so I think sometimes a light AF does not necessarily mean anything bad.

Gosh olives you're not being silly at all. You'd think a doctor would understand it's a really emotional experience, but it sounded a bit conveyor beltish. But like bean says, yay for your great consultant and I'm sure the tests will be helpful - even if they just show that everything is fine?

DH is not keen on the cost idea of an early scan at all. He thinks mc are a fact of life and it won't change the likelihood of having one. He thinks we can bluff our way through my DM's visit, but tbh he doesn't get why I don't just tell everyone, either - but then, he didn't feel the pressure when we were ttc, so I didn't really expect him to get that I wouldn't want our very large and at times, insensitive families to know we're ttc and to really ramp up the pressure if it all goes wrong :( Mostly he thinks I need to "stop catastrophising". We are going to talk about it more later.

And I forgot to say ? yay cakes !!! That's great news, I bet you are so relieved :)

Oh pop its so very difficult for men to understand isn;t it?

But actually he is wrong about the scans because studies at St Mary's have shown a positive effect of early scans on recurrent MCs, they don;t know why but it appears the 'tea and sympathy' approach reduces MC rates in this population. Now of course that is not to say that NOT having a scan increases a risk and you are not a recurremt mcer but if you wanted to 'blind him with science' that may be the approach.

perhaps sell the CBFM on ebay and put that towards the scan?

Goodness, I missed your post last night Loopy - I wasn't deliberately leaving you out of the good scan congratulations - so happy that all is in order!! Have you had fun telling people?

Olives, bless you, that sounds very upsetting. A little bit of caring and compassion goes a very very long way and I'm sorry that you felt like you were on a production line. Maybe they should introduce a MN training element to medical people's training - one read of the conception threads would teach anyone a lot about the sensitivity and support needed in these matters. You should send him a link!

Aaaah, Cupcakes little baby Fedex is still gestating nicely but teasing me about when his presence shall be declared an a peestick! He sends his best regards to all the smacketeers :)

Far, thinking of you lots this week. Did you discuss career change possibilities with DH? So sorry to hear about your friend - horrible news and it's even worse when there's nothing you can say or do to help.

Pops, once again your DH is being far too sensible for anyone's good. On the one hand he is right - an early scan will not change anything and, as someone v wise mentioned above (forgotten who, sorry), if people want to make assumptions about your non-drinking that is completely up to them. Even if you have a positive scan at this stage you may still not want to tell people until the 12 week mark. On the other hand, if this is causing you stress and upset, in my view it's money well spent. After all, the CBFM wasn't cheap and that had awesome results!

Well we had SWI last night - I couldn't believe it, OH had said that he was a bit tired (which has always meant that it's not going to happen) but then initiated it! I was so taken aback by this strange state of affairs, I kept asking if he was okay - he eventually snapped "Yes I am fine, I just want to have sex with you if that's okay" . I am definitely going to insist we have the night off tonight - don't want him running out of steam in the run up to the egg laying as we did last cycle.

Oh, Bean, I keep meaning to ask - how is your friend who had twins and post-birth complications?? Hope they are getting along okay and are over the worst.

Ooh Far x-post. Interesting study re: early scans. Pops scrap everything I said about your DH being right that a scan won't change anything!

Oh yes Little our bodies are saving excellent eggs for this month!

Cupcakes sounds like you could be only 4 dpo then and that's why the sore boobs haven't yet kicked in. Does everyone get this symptom, and if so, how soon after ov? I think it starts for me a week or so after ov, but maybe I need to start writing this sort of thing down. If I'm not pregnant, my boobs go back to normal when AF comes so sore boobs and late AF are a very good sign for me!

Green I don't think you're being silly either - it sounds like you were treated as a customer rather than a patient. Given that patients there have been through the upset of (repeated) miscarriages, I think they should adopt a more caring approach. Anyway, as others have said, hopefully the tests will give you the answers you need and you can go back to Mr Wonderful Consultant in his worn suit!

Far boo to BFN but let's assume you are only 8 or 9 dpo and that's why. Your friend has had a tough time - must be horrible to get the furthest ever and on treatment and still lose the baby. I hope she has lots of support - I'm sure you are a brilliant friend to her at times like this, having been through similar. Thanks for the reassurance re light periods. I recall when I conceived DD I was having really light periods - one or two days of a panty liner - and she's OK, so I don't worry too much.

Pop your DH is right in that it won't change the outcome but it's so much nicer telling people when you've had your first scan and seen that little heartbeat. I don't wish to be doom and gloom, but I hate the fact that people know (or assume) that we are TTC because they know about the mcs - it puts a lot of pressure on us to announce some happy news plus I just plain old hate people knowing our business. Best to try to get a scan before you tell your mum and rest of your family in my opinion. But of course your blueberry will be OK and there is no need for such worry over mcs and the like.

Hello Imps and whoop on the SWI!

Maybe how are you today?

Morning all. I'm slightly over acheiving today - I've resubmitted my thesis and had an article accepted for publication in a diplomatic magazine.

And I haven't even had coffee yet. In case I do anyone any damage, I'm off to have my hair cut.

Great scan news, scanners.

Thinking of you far

Have a good day all.

I'm due to test this weekend/early next week. I'm currently 7 DPO. Health visitor due shortly for my DS's one year check. Feeling a bit nervous!

That's exactly it, Generic . Thanks for the kind words everyone ? DH has said he'll back the scan if it's what I want, but he's not keen. We shall see.

Whims did your email yesterday result in a bit furore as predicted? :o

I know a lot of you are bakers ? I've just got this book and I have to say it's one of the more interesting cakey books I've seen in a long time. I'd highly recommend it, and I who cannot bake intend on trying out a recipe this weekend if I can decide which one to start with, nom nom nom :)

Whim that sounds productive! I'm being efficient today too - mind you I always work better when I've got too much to do!

Duke enjoy the milestone check! See what advice your HV can give re TTC and pass them on to us! Hope you get an agreeable peestick when you test.

Pop yum re cakes!

PS re boobwatch - mine are very tingly/itchy, which I think is normal for me following ov so I think I shall put myself in the 2ww now and stop the SWI.

Morning all

Cakes that is absolutely amaxing news, you must be over the moon!

And you too Loooopy When are you dur dates smacketeers?

Olives you are not being silly at all. It sounds like a horrible experience, with very little (if any) compassion being shown at the time when it is most needed. Hope you are feeling stronger today.

Cup hope your head is feeling a tad more rested now after those horrid shifts.

Whim I bow down to your academic prowess today.

Pop that looks like a good book. I would like to write a recipe book, I think it would be therapeautic.

Imps how are you? Jurrah for swi.

Generic how are you lovely?

And Bean? And Far and Duke? And all all other smacketeers I have forgotten?

My head is in a very strange place right now with regards to the PhD. Trying to work through it all, but won't bore you all with it. You lot cheer me up anyway!

Morning everyone. I'm pretty tired today, after a work night out last night. I was kind of guilt tripped into going along, but it was good fun in the end. Just a bit too early in the week for me really. We still managed SWI last night, which was good, though I wasn't at my most appealing. I told DH I'd just lay there while he 'serviced' me.
I've got a busy social week lining up for me now, which is highly unusual. Out last night, tonight, tomorrow, Sat and Sun! I'm actually meeting up with a MNetter and her baby on Sunday. Nervous, and looking forward to it. Will be the first baby I've seen since starting TTC.

Excellent scan news loopy and cakes excited for you both.
Far sorry about the BFN, but hopefully it's just too early.
Olives sorry for the bad consultant appointment, it's really not on. I'd have expected them to be nicer and spend more time with you considering you're paying for the service.
Popcorn you should have a budget for baby things your DH doesn't agree with. Call it your savings from having to give up booze for 9 months - guilt free money you can spend without approval.
Imps hehe, glad your DH initiated some SWI, it's nice to know they still fancy us sometimes.

Back to work for me. Oh well.

I hope you managed to eat your muffin Cupcakes, didn't mean to put you off blueberries. At 8wks I think they become raspberries lol

Call it your savings from having to give up booze for 9 months - guilt free money you can spend without approval.
Genius :o

Thanks for asking about friend's twins. One is deffo home - and we saw a lovely Christmassy picture, though they look TINY. I'm not sure about the other - there were complications. Am afraid to ask on email, and I don't think she's been ready for visitors.

Brookers' advice please. We had a high on CBFM last night and had a very good bit of SWI methinks. Now the egg has appeared on CBFM (cd11). Should I try to bed DP again tonight? In the past I have managed this but of course it didn't get us anywhere and we have since had the low motility results. I could always aim to seduce early on cd12 before work but these shagtics (credit to Imps) are risky in our house due to Toddler-interventions. Thoughts on postcard please.

Pop - follow your heart. Money comes and goes.

What does the egg mean Bean?

Btw - just to say Maybe things are sounding tough for you at the moment. I hope you get a BFP so that the PhD seems a distant worry. Something good will come of it, that's what my dear old Ma always says, bless her golfing socks.